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02-17-2014 04:45 PM  3 years agoPost 61
jackp332

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Thank you- I really appreciate the reassurance and kind words. I have always purchased another brand, mainly because I was comfortable with them and knowledgeable on their maintenance. I became absolutely hooked on gassers when I converted a few nitro ships at the beginning of last season. I decided on the G20 honestly because an opportunity arose on an unbuilt, previously purchased NIB kit that I just simply couldn't pass up- I realize you dont get a Ferrari when you pay for a Ford and I wouldn't expect to. I currently have all of the upgrades ordered that I've read about and am pretty excited to start the build and have a 'change of scenery' so to speak.
Everything looks very nice and well built so far and I'm by no means a hard flyer or 3D guy so hopefully it will be a welcome addition to the fleet. Will keep all posted on my success, likes and dislikes with it.

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02-17-2014 05:10 PM  3 years agoPost 62
gyan

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Just for the record, I bought a Radikal G20 from Century & I think it's a great small 60 size gasser. Sure I'm just a very mild sport flyer but this machine flies with no issues for me. I've crashed it a few times but it was NEVER the fault of Century or the kit. If you want a machine to bang around hard 3D pay more money & get a nitro or electric with upgrades. Like Carey said it has a few issues but nothing major, and I don't know of any man made machine that's perfect yet, if anyone finds one, please let me know.

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02-17-2014 05:17 PM  3 years agoPost 63
Azalin

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Don't be. I was talking about the 21th Century.
I just bought my first Century heli- the G20 gasser- and now you all have me scared...

Helibug Trex 700 HB7-RC Gasser | TRM VX270TT | V-Bar silver line
Helibug Trex 600 HB6-RC7 Gasser

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02-17-2014 06:05 PM  3 years agoPost 64
Rudy

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Century products

I have seen better products, and I have seen worst products.

I have a Century Predator gasser my self. While it's not a bad design it's not a great design either.

I do have a few problems with Century

1. Service - With Align it is know there is zero support, there is no number to call, no one to contact and no warranty except what may be provided by the shop you bought from. Century on the other hand provides a false sense of support. They have a phone number to call, they will even answer the phone and talk to you. However when it comes to support in their eyes everything is your fault, you did something wrong. They have never heard of that problem before, or any number of other excuses. In the end you the user will be blamed for the issue and they will sale you a replacement part to fix the issue.

2. Fit and finish - The fit and finish of century products has always been of a lower quality then most other helicopter company's. Just set a century helicopter next to another brand and look at the details of the two helicopters and you will see what I mean. Now I'm not saying they suck, wont work, or they are HHI. I'm just saying they do what they need to do and that's it. You may have to do a little sanding, or other work to make stuff fit.

3. They are a street gang - What i mean is everyone (employees and reps) in Century sticks together no matter what and if you disagree with them they will gang up and try to blacklist you. A perfect example of this it the pinking of the post above.

Rudy Ackerman Houston TX/Bend OR

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02-17-2014 06:54 PM  3 years agoPost 65
Carey Shurley

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Rudy............street gang..........really?

I know you're just being dramatic but c'mon. Only Mark has the power to make posting adjustments and trust me he won't do it unless he see's a pattern over time.

Frankly having been involved with several manufacturers I think every one of them thinks their guys get undue attention here. If nobody is happy about how something is done then it usually means its mostly objective

Lets get back to the OP topic, its a fair question.

If you're not flying a gasoline helicopter
You're paying 10 times too much for fuel!!

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02-17-2014 07:16 PM  3 years agoPost 66
RM3

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showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-18-2014 01:47 AM  3 years agoPost 67
Gearhead

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pinked post ???

I don't understand how the poster of that pinked post could complain about one brands parts quality yet over-look another brand's flawed design quality

Jim
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02-18-2014 03:30 AM  3 years agoPost 68
RM3

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Lets get back to the OP topic, its a fair question.
I agree, its getting out of hand....and I know I didn't help the situation...

but moving along...

I'll start by asking not what is the next best gasser as in air frame....but rather whats the next best product comming down as in the engine...I know about the GT15...

but is there anything else besides the GT15 and Zenoah that can bring a lower vibration alternative to gasoline applications? somthing that is within reach of us "on a buget" guys?

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-18-2014 01:43 PM  3 years agoPost 69
Pistol Pete

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https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t759558p1/

...and so a new topic begins...

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02-18-2014 02:26 PM  3 years agoPost 70
bustedmp

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I got a G20 for Christmas from my wife and kids. I had some issues with a few missing items in the kit which Century took care of rather quickly. There were also a few other things I would have liked to have seen different in the kit, but overall I am happy with it.

The world is yours!

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02-18-2014 02:43 PM  3 years agoPost 71
RM3

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looked at the airstar...

the One strut per side I can guarantee will cause tip over problems...and or break with rough landings...unless its a marketing stunt to show balance...don't know who thought that was a good idea...

looks really heavy...the frames look like they're made from 1/4 thick aluminum...

I do like that its belt drive from the engine to the main drive (good for vib management)

plus the pinion is mounted right up against the engine output side bearing with the clutch following...so the clutch can be serviced by just turning the heli over...nothing to unbolt...thats cool....but if the clutch shoe developes an imbalance there is nothing to support the free end which could allow it get worse.

the price is attractive though....would like to see more dealers support them.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-18-2014 03:23 PM  3 years agoPost 72
ppridday

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To me the Airstars have always looked cool as hell. I'm sure if the landing gear is like it's shown in the pics, it could be retrofitted easily enough...

Not to get caught up in the "this vs that" debate, but my Predator gasser has been great and I have had no probs getting parts for it. The only thing I can't seem to find is the collar for the metal tail case. However the stock plastic one worked fine for me as well with no issues at all. Just needed a little bling.

Paul

"There's someone in my head, but it's not me..."

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02-18-2014 04:48 PM  3 years agoPost 73
rhodesengr

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looked at the airstar...
I see the Airstar guys at shows every year. Its not really a 3D oriented machine. I think their main market is industrial applications, photography, and Hollywood. They are in Moorpark just outside LA. 800 size, I think.

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02-18-2014 06:15 PM  3 years agoPost 74
jackp332

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Airstar is next on my list for sure. I'm currently watching a few used ones on ebay.

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02-18-2014 06:27 PM  3 years agoPost 75
bustedmp

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http://www.heliproz.com/A140-11-Mon...ctinfo/A140-11/

I knew I saw the Airstar somewhere. Not sure what the frames are made from. It is an 800 size heli that uses a Zenoah R/C style engine with CCW rotating main blades and left side mounted tail rotor.

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02-18-2014 06:40 PM  3 years agoPost 76
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All of Airstar International's CNC made parts are made from 6061 Aircraft Grade Aluminum. The most popular motor we install is the Zenoah RC290 engine, but if you really want some high performance we have had great experiences with the 30.5cc Zenoah engine as well.

Main Rotor blades are 830mm and the tail rotor blades are 120mm.

Call us anytime or post your questions and we will be happy to answer ASAP!

Team Airstar Intl
805-553-9996

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02-18-2014 06:46 PM  3 years agoPost 77
Pistol Pete

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Already posted questions in your thread

https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t759558p1/

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02-18-2014 06:58 PM  3 years agoPost 78
Airstar Intl

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Already answered!

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02-18-2014 07:43 PM  3 years agoPost 79
RM3

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I'm not falling for this...
6061 aircraft grade aluminum?

to quote an author and master machinist...
"Aircraft grade aluminum. what are people trying to say? Airplanes have almost the full spectrum of aluminum alloys in them. Get a little more specific, folks. The trade is full of exact, precise, scentific, and engineering terms. This is purely a marketing ploy." pg39.
Metalworking, Doing it Better, Tom lipton, 2014. Industrial Press Inc.

c'mon...nearly every alumium part on every RC heli is made from 6061...6061 alloy is the most common aluminum alloy on the planet and is used for everything from soda cans to Habor Freight tools...
except some exotic helis that use 7075 which is harder and stronger for the head block and grips...

Nice try though.

I would hve focused more on the design and layout...but that one skid leg per side...dunno bout that...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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02-18-2014 08:01 PM  3 years agoPost 80
Airstar Intl

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Airstar International 3D PRO-G

Will post plenty of pictures of the layout, etc. That was just our first picture we posted as we just got the canopy back and were very excited to see it all start to come together. The three point landing gear actually works quite well!

We apologize that our description of "6061 Aircraft Grade Aluminum" was not sufficient...

To be more Precise, we mainly use 6061-T6. A quick google search will show that 6061 in general is indeed commonly used in various aspects of aircraft construction, so I'm not sure how using the term "Aircraft Grade Aluminum" would not be appropriate as most people may not be familiar with the 6061 designation/technical terms. It's not a marketing ploy or gimmick. It's just a fact of the material we use.

If anybody has any questions regarding any of the materials we use, don't hesitate to call/email/PM us! We are more than happy to answer any questions to the best of our ability.

Hope this helps!

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