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12-17-2013 02:12 PM  3 years agoPost 21
Richardmid1

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Its only a model name not a by word for carbon and aluminium.

I think as it follows the exact same shape and canopy of the original 800 Xxtreme, why not call it the Xxtreme also? Maybe Mini Xxtreme would have been more fitting though.

I personally don't like the extra weight they added to the 800 and 700 Xxtreme due to all the oversized chunky aluminium so I welcome back the plastic with open arms.

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12-17-2013 02:21 PM  3 years agoPost 22
icanfly

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this is great, a "plastic versus metal debate".

Is pastic better than alu parts? Ano'd and machine finished alu is a big selling point to some people, plastic is Black and black and black all over until painted, painting can look sloppy, but can also look amazing. Usually they wind up weighing the same with plastic more bulky looking. Streamlining is also a big seller which can be achieved better with aluminum.

Sometimes plastic can weigh more than aluminum. From my own plastic 300zyx I've learned a lot about it and where it stands beside aluminum.

How much is the Mikado 480 going to be? Upgrades to aluminum head? Tail pitch link slider and grips?

A problem with plastic is that a hairline crack can start after a crash and not be noticed until many flights later when the part ultimately fails. On black cracks are hard to see.

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12-17-2013 03:28 PM  3 years agoPost 23
Ronald Thomas

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Mikado has proven themselves over and over again for the last almost 30 years. The Mikado plastic is awesome and will continue to be that way. CF/aluminum is what everyone thinks they want so many shy away from Mikado but they miss out on a heli that needs no upgrades out of the box and flies like it is on rails….every time. If you have never owned a Mikado heli, you just won't understand….until you get one and then the AHH HAA light comes on

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12-17-2013 04:07 PM  3 years agoPost 24
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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laughingstill
Mikado has proven themselves over and over again for the last almost 30 years. The Mikado plastic is awesome and will continue to be that way. CF/aluminum is what everyone thinks they want so many shy away from Mikado but they miss out on a heli that needs no upgrades out of the box and flies like it is on rails….every time. If you have never owned a Mikado heli, you just won't understand….until you get one and then the AHH HAA light comes on
understood but still ill take mines in cnc wish they had it for the smaller logos guess im gonna have to go for the bigger logos that come in cnc .

but the 480 is rad id fly that baby without any complaints

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12-17-2013 04:49 PM  3 years agoPost 25
Qrrambero

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Mikado plastic must be good. I have never heard people asking for the plastic frame in the 700 helicopter.
As soon as the 700 came out I saw a lot of post requesting the plastic frame for it. And the 600 Mikado has carbon frame they aren't as popular as the original plastic.

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12-18-2013 12:30 AM  3 years agoPost 26
Bouchah

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I believe staying with plastic parts while most other manufacturers switched to carbon and aluminum was one of the reasons for Hirobo,s downfall of popularity here in the states.
Nope, I believe it was lack of models and expensive parts!
I did not say it was the only reason!
The Mikado plastic is awesome and will continue to be that way. CF/aluminum is what everyone thinks they want so many shy away from Mikado but they miss out on a heli that needs no upgrades out of the box and flies like it is on rails…
Substitute the name Hirobo for Mikado and you have the same argument that I have heard for years for Hirobo. The plastic is great the quality is great but the consumer interest is in low cost, aluminum and carbon.

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12-18-2013 12:33 AM  3 years agoPost 27
Ronald Thomas

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30 years….nuff said

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12-18-2013 01:02 AM  3 years agoPost 28
Retired2011

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the consumer interest is in low cost, aluminum and carbon.
The low cost consumer, perhaps.

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12-18-2013 02:59 AM  3 years agoPost 29
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Quote from Qrrambero:

"I have never heard people asking for the plastic frame in the 700 helicopter. (But) As soon as the 700 came out I saw a lot of post requesting the plastic frame for it. And the 600 Mikado has carbon frame they aren't as popular as the original plastic."

Yep. When the Logo 700 gets it's molded frame and other parts (and it will in the future), the deletion of the costly CF and heavy metal parts will actually be an "upgrade".

Like the 500/600 molded frame, the new molded 700 frame will be a work of engineering art and functionality, and an already high performance machine will suddenly weigh substantially less, probably cost less, have a MUCH lower parts count, and all discussion about the current Logo 700 being heavier than other 700's can go away...not that the weight of the machine now supported by a 713mm disc causes it to be a slouch by any means.

Then the after-market types can start making new CF and metal down-grades for it

(-: Dave

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12-18-2013 03:07 AM  3 years agoPost 30
Ronald Thomas

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Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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12-18-2013 04:08 AM  3 years agoPost 31
Ace Dude

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It's always kind of funny how that works out....

  

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12-18-2013 04:46 AM  3 years agoPost 32
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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the bling will always be king

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12-18-2013 10:57 AM  3 years agoPost 33
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For some of us ANTI-bling is the king!

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12-18-2013 01:06 PM  3 years agoPost 34
Bouchah

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I agree with WC, like I said earlier, bling draws attention/ consumers. IE: Why buy cheap plastic looking models when there is this shiny model available?
Old Hippie, If I may, I also agree with you. I currently own 2 plastic frame birds and 2 carbon frame birds, they both crash and they both break. The bling only costs more to repair and causes more unnecessary pucker factor while flying.

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12-18-2013 11:06 PM  3 years agoPost 35
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I would much rather have strong plastic over shiny aluminum. I'm willing to bet the Mikado plastic blade grips are stronger than the Align "pot metal" crap. Also plastic is easier on the bearings in a crash. The only reason Align and others went the cheap aluminum route is because it's cheaper for them. Ask Ralf sometime how much the molds for all the 500/600 parts cost him upfront.

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12-18-2013 11:42 PM  3 years agoPost 36
benben

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Quote from Dahld:

"Yep. When the Logo 700 gets it's molded frame and other parts (and it will in the future), the deletion of the costly CF and heavy metal parts will actually be an "upgrade"."

That's going to be very interesting!

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12-19-2013 02:03 AM  3 years agoPost 37
Flys4Fun

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How old of design are the logos platic blade grips? The current logos selling at full blown new pricing seem to have the same blade grips as my old logo 20, crazy pitch arm flex and all lol.

I have no clue how you.guys can say the plastic frame is stronger than carbon aluminum? I have seen more than one logo frame crash broken into 2,3 an 4 pieces, carbon and aluminum frames break, but don't explode apart upon impact, lol. To date the most expensive crash I had was with a logo 500 frames exploded and all my expensive electronics took the hit. Last logo I owned can't afford that risk again, but it flew well lol.

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12-19-2013 02:30 AM  3 years agoPost 38
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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well its not the plastic head unit that makes the logo light
or a cnc head unit that might make it heavy.

its the logo plastic frame boom etc that makes the bird light.

a cnc head would not hurt it a bit

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12-19-2013 02:42 AM  3 years agoPost 39
Ronald Thomas

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Strength of an airframe can't be measured in crashes as no crash is ever the same. If you go in under power on concrete, no frame, cf or plastic, will keep you electronics safe.

I have crashed many a Logo, never had electronics be destroyed. Maybe a stripped gear but that is with any Heli.

Grip pitch arm flex???? Definitely not the same grips...

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12-19-2013 10:17 AM  3 years agoPost 40
Richardmid1

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Actually the Logo's blade grip arms do flex quite a bit however you hardly notice it in flight apart from the odd extra loud out of track 'flap' during certain hard manoeuvres. The blade grips will also flex/snap in a crash saving other more costly components.

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