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11-06-2013 06:20 PM  4 years agoPost 1
michael88997

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Ok guys so ever since I went electric several years ago I have been itching for a piston engine in something... I setup a 47in 3d plane with a evo10GX and it was great, but it wasn't a heli...

so I know the whiplash is the top option out there and with the modded engines they are pretty impressive....

but I don't know if I want to drop 2300-2400 on a 90 and have to worry about 500+ crash cost...

a 600 is really a great size for me( I am currently looking to purchase a Jr e6 550 as my next heli. total cost including lipos around 1800)

my question is are there any 600s out there with the performance of a 700 yet?

My other option is something like a nx4 but thats too expensive for its size and quality IMO

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11-06-2013 06:24 PM  4 years agoPost 2
Kos

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you might consider a 700 conversion, in order to stick with the 700 size...they are all tried and tested...maybe not as top-notch as a Whiplash, but the next best thing...all good value for money, without much $$$ concern after a crash...

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11-06-2013 06:27 PM  4 years agoPost 3
fastflyer20

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600 gassers are not there yet

The Whiplash is great, and worth the $$$. Most crashes are significantly less that $600.

I tried the conversions and was not all that happy with them. If you already have a donor heli, so that part is "free" then they are interesting. Without a donor heli, the Whip is a better choice.

Not impressed with the NX4's I have seen at our field, especially considering the cost.

Tom
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11-06-2013 06:44 PM  4 years agoPost 4
michael88997

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thanks for the info... I thought 600's did not have the power yet..

yeah I def dont want a nx4, but if something that size came out that is a newer design and better quality from someone else that would spark my interest...

I have only seen 1 whiplash and it flew great, but he never crashed it so didn't know the cost.. what is typical in a 90 size gasser crash to break?

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11-06-2013 07:58 PM  4 years agoPost 5
fastflyer20

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I have had a few "minor" crashes with my two Whiplash's

Common crash parts are (same as with many brands) blades, main shaft, tail shaft, landing gear, boom, TT & TT gears, tail fin. I have yet to bend a feathering shaft, but it did need new grip bearings 1x.

Just like any heli, if they go in hard, there can be more damage. But mine have not suffered the in flight issues that some of my other gassers experienced.

Tom
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11-06-2013 08:08 PM  4 years agoPost 6
michael88997

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ah ok.. the person I taked to said the motors are normally pretty tought so just normal parts.. seems like their pretty expensive for the whiplash.. I think it may be a litte out of my current budget cause I dont want to risk a extremely expensive crash

I might wait a year or 2 and maybe by then the 600 class will begin to have descent power and be more in my price range..

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11-06-2013 09:15 PM  4 years agoPost 7
wrongler

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If you are worried about an expensive crash, you probably won't enjoy flying a 700. I have crashed a few, and a crash starts at about $300 and goes up from there.
Go for one that you are comfortable with and fly!

Bill Whittaker

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11-06-2013 09:42 PM  4 years agoPost 8
michael88997

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If you are worried about an expensive crash, you probably won't enjoy flying a 700. I have crashed a few, and a crash starts at about $300 and goes up from there.
Go for one that you are comfortable with and fly!
yeah that is why I was wanting to stay in the 600 range but their just not there power wise.. Guess I need to satisfy my piston craving somewhere else for the time being.. maybe next year I will be in a place I can buy a 700..

I most likely will get the jr e6 but just saw mikado is making a logo 480 xxtreme so probably will wait for details on that too...

I was thinking of a gas car but man those are just as expensive as a heli

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11-06-2013 10:16 PM  4 years agoPost 9
RM3

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I was thinking of a gas car but man those are just as expensive as a heli
nah...cheaper, by alot when you consider that if the car has a part break while in use...well its already on the ground....A heli has a part break while in use...well to put it to you this way, you dont throw your RC Car 20ft spinning up in the air after something breaks do you?

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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11-07-2013 11:34 PM  4 years agoPost 10
rhodesengr

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If you put a BD3SX on whatever you choose, it takes away much of the crash risk. As long as you stay high enough, if you ever get mixed up, just hit Rescue.

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11-08-2013 12:12 AM  4 years agoPost 11
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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Totally agree with rhodesengr
And I would say to you that an RC car is bound to get boring really quick as its only 2D not 3D.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4195 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3266 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1533 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 380 flts

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11-08-2013 03:07 PM  4 years agoPost 12
michael88997

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yeah that is true.. yeah I know the car would get boring pretty fast, that is why I build a plane but still wasn't as fun as a heli...

I was looking to use a ikon which also has the self level..

what is considered to be the best 3d motor and pipe combo without making your ears bleed?

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11-08-2013 04:37 PM  4 years agoPost 13
rhodesengr

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Pleasanton, CA USA

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You have at least four choices:
Stock Zenoah
BH Hanson modifed Zenoah
Toxic Marine modified Zenoah
HWC modified Zenoah

I went with Hanson 3D Max.

The Century V2 is a popular pipe. There are also tuned pipes. Hanson makes one for the Whiplash.

Not sure how well the SL works on IKON especially with a gasser. 3SX works for sure and has both SL and Rescue which are somewhat different.

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11-09-2013 04:57 PM  4 years agoPost 14
turboomni

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RC Gas Car
I had a 1/5th scale rc gas buggy. Used the same fuel and mix from my gasser heli's so I got it cheap brand new. It was fun at first then it got boring and never used it again. It was in good shape so I sold it.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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