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10-13-2013 03:51 PM  4 years agoPost 21
GyroFreak

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Orlando Florida ...28N 81W

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I don't understand the dislike towards the heli side of rc, from some of the plane guys. It's all radio control HOBBY I feel.
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Guess it's all what gored your bull.
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I went to a flying field where it was all helicopters flying, and they didn't like my hex flying at their field ??? Go figure.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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10-13-2013 03:58 PM  4 years agoPost 22
Nycatt

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New York

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Bull. Have you even tried?99.9% of all clubs officers in any organization are only in place due to the fact that NO ONE will step up and do the job. We were no different 12 years ago. Once we stepped up and took control necessary changes were made. Everyone is happy now were financially sound and growing.The problem is it's way to easy to sit back a bitch about how things are run rather than doing the work necessary to make it work.Mike
Yes we have tried. My friend was running for president and I was running for vise prez. I was told directly from some J.O. that it'll never happen and wanted me to drop out of the race, obviously I didnt. No biggie, I don't need the headache. I just go to fly, not to BS about politics.




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10-13-2013 04:17 PM  4 years agoPost 23
junkpilot

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Alamogordo N.M.

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Old plankers vs. Heliguys
In all of my life I've been a member of only three clubs. The one in California that I have already mentioned. What I did not mention is I was president at that club for four years and still the old plankers were such a nuisance that I often flew at another site.
Second was The Tucson R/C Flyers and they were wonderful in every respect. I can't say enough about them. I haven't been there for years but I still miss them.
Last the Alamogordo R/Cers where I fly today. The club I fly at today has several old timers that feel the feild is theirs to do with as they please. One of them has purposfully flown airplanes into heli pilots as they were flying. Because of those people I am always looking for somewhere else to fly. I am certain the day will come when tempers blow up and some old idiot is going to experience what he has been dishing out for years.So quit telling these people to just bend over and take it in the a$$!
Junkpilot

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10-13-2013 10:06 PM  4 years agoPost 24
RM3

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Killeen, Texas - USA

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Honestly the OLD Plankers at our club don't fly all that much, most are really nice guys...but a few complain about everything (from a seated position of course) but are rarely around when work needs to be done.... Used to see some heli guys out there but the last few weeks they have been absent and as a club we need to get more "actively flying" members in order to improve the club as a whole.

thing is how do we encourage more membership especially from responsible individuals without turning them off when they see a bunch of old guys showing thier birds at the mall. I guess its too big of an age divide? We have alot of 20 somthings here that have lots of disposable income...but thier interests are with drinking, crotch rockets or gaming.

They plan on having a funfly so I will see how that turns out.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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10-14-2013 02:44 AM  4 years agoPost 25
trappg

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Concord, NC

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Too much drama. Get out there and have fun guys.

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10-14-2013 04:05 AM  4 years agoPost 26
BENTDABOOM

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west seattle

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reading all this makes me glad I fly alone, no attitudes no BS no one to argue with but myself seriously been modeling 45 yrs and been around the club thing which has been a big deterant and big reason for me to be a "lone flyer" and thiers plenty of us out their! all I gotta do is drive down the street 2 miles and have the soccer field all to myself. the lawn maint guy and me get along well so everythings hunky dori

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10-14-2013 05:27 AM  4 years agoPost 27
ICUR1-2

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Ottawa, Ontario

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Just learned today, that the club I joined this year is expanding and there will be a new area for heli's adjacent to the main runway.
Considering the only heli's I saw there mostly
were mine

spending time, paying attention

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10-14-2013 07:13 AM  4 years agoPost 28
jackp332

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Claremont, Nh USA

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Sounds like they're giving you your own private space then

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10-14-2013 07:34 AM  4 years agoPost 29
Luvmyhelis

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Spokane, Washington. USA

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Well, most places it seems aren't any different. Where I live it was pretty much all plankers. I actually came to believe I was alone up here after a few years, and gave up looking. But due to the Rc forums a few of us found each other and started flying together. And yes we suffered the same abuse. Pretty soon we had our own free dedicated field to fly at. And it is huge. Now there are about a dozen of us, we all get along great. Now our only problem is figuring out how not to get too large. We keep our landing pad small. Actually bringing our own fold out 16x8 wood pad with outdoor carpet. This way we never need an official landing strip. Nor will our field ever be plank friendly since they can't land anywhere. We even have our own 3D pro plank guy who shows up with his micro's and is amazing. But he is heavily into helis now.

If you can't join them. Do your own thing. Who needs the stupid stress?

Old cranky heli builder

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10-14-2013 03:33 PM  4 years agoPost 30
jbdww

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Round Rock, Texas

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Do what I did. Get involved with the club. I started off being the clubs secretary, and now I am the clubs president. Volunteer when they have events. We went from circle flying to now hosting the biggest heli fun fly in Texas, and almost just as big 3D airplane shows. Most of the older guys are now trying to fly helis, and 3D airplanes. When you can prove to them that we can make a better club, then they get on board with you.

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10-14-2013 03:41 PM  4 years agoPost 31
rcmiket

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El Paso,Texas

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Do what I did. Get involved with the club. I started off being the clubs secretary, and now I am the clubs president. Volunteer when they have events. We went from circle flying to now hosting the biggest heli fun fly in Texas, and almost just as big 3D airplane shows. Most of the older guys are now trying to fly helis, and 3D airplanes. When you can prove to them that we can make a better club, then they get on board with you.
Now that's how it's done.

Mike

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10-14-2013 03:48 PM  4 years agoPost 32
fla heli boy

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cape coral, florida

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I fly both and we have a dedicated heli area with pads and shelter.
Doesn't seem to matter. You always have 8-10 guys that show up with nothing, or some 40 year old trainer and they all end up sitting in the shade waiting for something to complain about. I got hollered at the other day for not having my membership card on display....even though they're the ones that signed me up. The got hollered at another time for maidening my foamy in the heli area.....when there were no helis'. Some people just can't stand seeing someone else having fun or doing something they can't do themselves. Goes with the territory because most of the hobby is 60+ year old dudes just looking for a way to get away from the old lady for a couple hours.....

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10-14-2013 03:54 PM  4 years agoPost 33
FireNWater

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Collierville, TN

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My club has everything. . . trainers to turbines to (now) Trex 700's, and everyone gets along just fine.
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All it takes is some common sense and courtesy. When you see someone walk up to the flight line with a running plane, clear the runway and let them take off. When they turn base, clear the runway and let them land. If your flying style is so 'intense and a hardcore' that the world fades away, then use a spotter.
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Communication is the key. Let everyone else KNOW that you know how to play nice with others. Remember that if people haven't been around large helos, they are very intimidating, especially if you fly 'close 3D'. Just because you're comfortable popping the blades of a 700 size helo half a rotor disk away from your face doesn't mean everyone else is.
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If you can't respect the other club members, then it probably is time for you to go somewhere else.
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10-14-2013 03:58 PM  4 years agoPost 34
Ace Dude

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USA

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OLD Plankers ruined my weekend
The only reason someone else ruined your weekend is because you let them. It's your hobby, enjoy it and don't let anyone's negativity ruin your enjoyment of it.

  

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10-14-2013 05:19 PM  4 years agoPost 35
pip

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Baltimore, MD

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Ace Dude, well said. People only have the power you give them (internalize this and it will take you far in life).

This is a proven method to counteract the perceived age/plank/heli barrier. Next time you to go to the field make it a point of walking over and engaging the older crowd in a conversation. Get to know their names, backgrounds and family etc. hang out and BS for a few minutes. When you finish flying for the day stop back over shake their hands tell them you will see them next week.

Then the following week make a big deal of acknowledging them as you would a good friend you see at a party/bar when you or they arrive. You will quickly find that not only do the comments and complaining stop but you will start new friendships. Remember the older crowd have lived thru a lot and have seen an incredible amount of change over their lives and have a wealth of information to share if you are interested in listening (which the younger age groups (including me) sometimes forget to make the time for).

Pip

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10-14-2013 05:29 PM  4 years agoPost 36
RogerRabbit62

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Some day in the future you will be the old guy and the younger ones will complain about your silly helicopter flying.

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10-14-2013 06:38 PM  4 years agoPost 37
RM3

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Killeen, Texas - USA

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well I did join the club...and I already go and introduce myself everytime I go out there, BS... I talk to the older guys...(I'm getting old myself ). And hopefully when time allows I can run for some position within the club.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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10-14-2013 08:04 PM  4 years agoPost 38
Ace Dude

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USA

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This is a proven method to counteract the perceived age/plank/heli barrier. Next time you to go to the field make it a point of walking over and engaging the older crowd in a conversation. Get to know their names, backgrounds and family etc. hang out and BS for a few minutes. When you finish flying for the day stop back over shake their hands tell them you will see them next week.

Then the following week make a big deal of acknowledging them as you would a good friend you see at a party/bar when you or they arrive. You will quickly find that not only do the comments and complaining stop but you will start new friendships. Remember the older crowd have lived thru a lot and have seen an incredible amount of change over their lives and have a wealth of information to share if you are interested in listening (which the younger age groups (including me) sometimes forget to make the time for).
Well said pip. I'd like to add another option to the excellent advice you provided if I may.

Find out what people like and bring food!

Seriously folks, one option that never fails at the field is to cook/bring good homemade BBQ food. It's a common denominator and ice breaker and everyone loves food! Really, did you ever meet anyone who doesn't like food? I have a small grill that I bring with me to the club field and R/C events. You'd be amazed at the conversations that get started over grilling, recipes, etc.

  

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10-14-2013 08:08 PM  4 years agoPost 39
doorman

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Sherwood, Arkansas

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Perfect Info
AceDude and pip, very well put...(and yes I am an Old Fart!!)
RM3, sounds as if you are going in the right direction..
Good Luck and let us know when you make the board!!!
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10-14-2013 08:27 PM  4 years agoPost 40
turboomni

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East of the Equator

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Ace Dude, well said. People only have the power you give them (internalize this and it will take you far in life).

This is a proven method to counteract the perceived age/plank/heli barrier. Next time you to go to the field make it a point of walking over and engaging the older crowd in a conversation. Get to know their names, backgrounds and family etc. hang out and BS for a few minutes. When you finish flying for the day stop back over shake their hands tell them you will see them next week.

Then the following week make a big deal of acknowledging them as you would a good friend you see at a party/bar when you or they arrive. You will quickly find that not only do the comments and complaining stop but you will start new friendships. Remember the older crowd have lived thru a lot and have seen an incredible amount of change over their lives and have a wealth of information to share if you are interested in listening (which the younger age groups (including me) sometimes forget to make the time for).

Pip
This was/is exactly my strategy. I was reluctantly let into a club because I answered the question "So what do you fly?" meaning planes. I replied 'mostly helicopters" there was a long silence. I then told him most all of my flying would be done during the week ,,not much on weekends. When I did see them during the week I made sure to shoot the poop with them,,inquire about their airplanes and setups etc. I always cleared it with them when I wanted to fly and never flew when they were in the air.And they did the same. When the negative remarks about heli's arose [usually in a joking manner] I just laughed with them,,no big deal. In time as we got to know each other everything went smoothly between us. Eventually some of the old guys even admitted they are very curious about heli's but thought it was just to hard for them to learn. I just encouraged them and eventually a few started to dabble with helicopters. I do think in this situation it would be a good idea to have a plank of your own to break the ice and have something in common with them. Chances are you all would be a much better plank flier than the rest at the field.!!

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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