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HelicopterMain Discussion › R/C helicopters sure have come a long way since 1982
11-06-2013 02:44 PM  4 years agoPost 161
jschenck

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So I guess my question is what happened in 2000-05 to make em popular.
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11-06-2013 03:50 PM  4 years agoPost 162
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So I guess my question is what happened in 2000-05 to make em popular.
Roughly simultaneously:

- Raptor .30 (ARF). With a servo tray you didn't have to build and blades that were, for the most part, ready to fly, any *NG could take one to the field. They were/are durable, (plastic)fantastic helis at an affordable price with never-before seen parts support.

- RealFlight (G1 1999ish?). See my previous post. You could learn to fly without having a rich aunt and endless tinker time. It didn't take you 2 years of gut wrenching practice on the hula-hoop to learn to hover.

- Futaba 401 gyro. Sold by Tower Hobbies it was affordable, reliable, readily available heading hold for the masses. You could hover and essentially "forget" the most attention consuming control - yaw. One little box with minimal settings. Any new guy can set one up... and they work. Yes there were other heading hold gyros before the 401 but none as easy to buy, simple to setup, and idiot proof. I've still got 2... or is it 3?

- RunRyder. Founded in late 2001(?), it made it possible for everyone to have access to the knowledge of the ages. I started in '86 and without internet forums I moved ahead slowly (by today's standards) by reading "Ray's Complete Helicopter Manual" + trial and error. With the advent of RunRyder (and other forums) you can not only still read books containing the wisdom of the leaders of this hobby, you can ask the authors questions!

- Electric Flight. To a lesser extent, the introduction and development of Lithium Polymer Batteries(LiPos), Electronic Speed Controls(ESCs) and Brushless motors made helicopters available to a new group of modelers that didn't like to build. If you "just want to fly", advancements in electrics opened up an aspect of the hobby where you could fly and not have to know how to start and run an engine. Time has passed and many would suggest that electrics are not only another choice, but a better choice; but, that was not the case in 2000. Those of us that flew a Voyager-E can confirm that while electric flight was possible, it was not a direct replacement for glow. (I don't miss 5C lipos (5C discharge rate- not charge rate)).

What else am I forgetting?

Bill

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11-06-2013 04:15 PM  4 years agoPost 163
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Cricket
I have a Brand New Cricket I still have to fly. It's built and ready to fly. Love vintage helis.

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11-06-2013 08:04 PM  4 years agoPost 164
gologo

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Bill, you sure are right on w. both your posts, although I think I am one
of the only 'oddballs' that NEVER had a Raptor......or for that matter, still no Align....... BUT, 401s were part of all my hels for many years.

I went through the exact same learning curve, think the training gear came
off sometime in the second summer of flying, only to go right back on that
fall to learn nose in. But man, what a LOT of good memories of those first
couple years and the 'giant' steps, conquering each new basic maneuver
felt like!

Now, its like you said.................B/S......

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11-06-2013 08:51 PM  4 years agoPost 165
Simmer

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Telebee was the knockoff (came after) same simple setup, bad plastic cases, cracked over a short time with the fuel that got smoked on them.

CSM 360 gyro ? Bueller ? bueller?

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11-06-2013 09:09 PM  4 years agoPost 166
jbjones

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CSM 360 gyro ? Bueller ? bueller?
Had one on my Raptor 30.

Might as well have just gone without!

-Joey

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11-07-2013 05:50 AM  4 years agoPost 167
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Don't remember if this was posted before, but interesting reading. http://www.rchalloffame.org

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11-07-2013 03:57 PM  4 years agoPost 168
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I think our sport has undergone some amazing changes over the last 30 years or so. In the days before IRCHA we were considered the black sheep of the R/C Aircraft Hobby. Many of us were trying to share R/C fields with airplane flyers and these disparate types of aircraft did not coexist very nicely.

The machines in those days were primitive by today's standards mechanically and electronically. There were no simulators and every single maneuver learned was paid for with a terrible crash.

Today we have great equipment at reasonable prices, and clubs dedicated to helicopters. You can buy a worthwhile little machine at Radio Shack and fly it in your yard. You can learn to fly on a TV set without risking anything. If you cannot fly it on the simulator you certainly cannot do it in the air.

The one constant in all of this development was and is the need for safe operation of the equipment. First and foremost must be our concern for the safety of the general public, and second concern is our own personal safety. This can only be accomplished if all flyers buy into this principle. The best way to do that in the U.S. is membership in the AMA and strict adherence to the AMA Safety Code even if you only fly in your own yard.

I do not really consider this a hobby, it is a sport. Depending on your personal goals it can be an extreme sport like drag racing, down hill ski racing, or motocross motorcycle, etc. You have extreme equipment that can be extremely dangerous. Recent events should cause us all to reflect on this. We must remember this when we repair our machines and prepare them for flight, and how and where we fly them. You don't have to fly or try that trick, but you do have to be safe when you do it. You have to do the whole package or not at all.

Sorry for the soapbox, but it's how I really feel.

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11-09-2013 06:45 PM  4 years agoPost 169
RGorham

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I think our sport has undergone some amazing changes over the last 30 years or so. In the days before IRCHA we were considered the black sheep of the R/C Aircraft Hobby. Many of us were trying to share R/C fields with airplane flyers and these disparate types of aircraft did not coexist very nicely.
The machines in those days were primitive by today's standards mechanically and electronically. There were no simulators and every single maneuver learned was paid for with a terrible crash.
Today we have great equipment at reasonable prices, and clubs dedicated to helicopters. You can buy a worthwhile little machine at Radio Shack and fly it in your yard. You can learn to fly on a TV set without risking anything. If you cannot fly it on the simulator you certainly cannot do it in the air.
The one constant in all of this development was and is the need for safe operation of the equipment. First and foremost must be our concern for the safety of the general public, and second concern is our own personal safety. This can only be accomplished if all flyers buy into this principle. The best way to do that in the U.S. is membership in the AMA and strict adherence to the AMA Safety Code even if you only fly in your own yard.
I do not really consider this a hobby, it is a sport. Depending on your personal goals it can be an extreme sport like drag racing, down hill ski racing, or motocross motorcycle, etc. You have extreme equipment that can be extremely dangerous. Recent events should cause us all to reflect on this. We must remember this when we repair our machines and prepare them for flight, and how and where we fly them. You don't have to fly or try that trick, but you do have to be safe when you do it. You have to do the whole package or not at all.
Sorry for the soapbox, but it's how I really feel.
Nicely worded my friend.

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11-10-2013 03:26 AM  4 years agoPost 170
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reading all this makes me wish Id gotten into rotor craft from day one, but its good seeing some history and what they flew. I do rememeber vagley seeing a heli kit by dubro in a HS but didnt pay too much attention

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11-16-2013 09:59 PM  4 years agoPost 171
TMoore

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Who remembers these Hirobo machines from back in the day?

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11-16-2013 11:25 PM  4 years agoPost 172
Dave Willis

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I Remember them, just couldn't afford one back then.

Dave

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11-16-2013 11:35 PM  4 years agoPost 173
TMoore

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Me neither.

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11-17-2013 06:27 PM  4 years agoPost 174
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Terry
I built the Gazelle, the UH-1 & the Lama. I still have the UH-1 & it is still in good flying condition. Hirobo made some real nice kits.
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11-17-2013 06:34 PM  4 years agoPost 175
TMoore

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They sure did Ralph. That UH-1 could still win scale contests. Do you still fly it?

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11-17-2013 07:04 PM  4 years agoPost 176
torque

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I have some old rc helicopter magazines. starting back from 1979. it is neat to go back through them and look at the different helis and products. the old pictures are great to look at also.

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11-17-2013 09:28 PM  4 years agoPost 177
rjd222

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Terry
Yes I still fly the UH-1 but only at funfly's & my club field during special events. I wish I never sold the Gazelle or the Lama.
Ralph

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11-18-2013 09:44 PM  4 years agoPost 178
rjd222

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Terry
I found some photo's of my UH-1, I thought you might enjoy seeing them. Makes me want to go fly it
Ralph

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11-18-2013 10:23 PM  4 years agoPost 179
TMoore

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Those are really nice shots of the UH-1. I love the first one arcing in to a hot LZ.

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11-18-2013 10:43 PM  4 years agoPost 180
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those are really nice

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