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11-07-2013 08:23 PM  4 years agoPost 561
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Hoogy, we want to see some new and REAL evolution that has taken place in the last 10,000 years, not some lizard that has changed a bit due to breading

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11-07-2013 08:25 PM  4 years agoPost 562
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I think that you both (Thomas and Hoggy) should criticize each other's reading and writing capabilities because nothing bolsters a point better than suggesting that the other person is "slow".

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11-07-2013 08:30 PM  4 years agoPost 563
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A bit outside the 10,000 year mark but some interesting reading:

http://science.howstuffworks.com/zo...ammals/dog2.htm

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11-07-2013 09:35 PM  4 years agoPost 564
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not some lizard that has changed a bit due to breading
mmmm deep fried lizard.

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11-07-2013 10:05 PM  4 years agoPost 565
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Fwiw...
Shallots and white wine then create a ring species...But the brush usually fixes it.....

I look at his thread time to time, and always wonder why no one seems to look at the idea that creationism, ID, and evolution all coexist well..Do the evolutionists or creationists ever wonder..."Gee...Wonder what we will become in a couple more million years...? Mebbe I will be an NBA star, after all.

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11-07-2013 10:11 PM  4 years agoPost 566
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Hoogy, we want to see some new and REAL evolution that has taken place in the last 10,000 years, not some lizard that has changed a bit due to breading
Impossible! The nucleotide substitution rate in eukaryotes is not sufficiently high to allow speciation is such short period of time.


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11-07-2013 10:25 PM  4 years agoPost 567
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R Hudson you are right about the slow comment but what hoggy commented on goes way past the mark . I am able to forgive but that doesn't mean I will forget his comments anytime soon;(

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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11-07-2013 10:39 PM  4 years agoPost 568
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I know Thomas and I agree. Civil discussion is way more enlightening even when disagreements still stand

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11-07-2013 11:16 PM  4 years agoPost 569
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To actually convince your brain that NOTHING created
EVERYTHING is simply untenable, pedestrian and ignorant.

The veritable REALITY is that An ETERNAL GOD, self existant
Designed and Created ALL THAT EXISTS.

For me, an easily achievable leap of faith.

But then, I know GOD, HE is Awesome.

The Reason you continue to reject Him is that
you hate HIM. (But you've been LIED TO...)

STEP UP TO LIFE!

God has provided a Way. ONE WAY ONLY BASILLI.

His Name is Jesus Christ.

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11-08-2013 12:27 AM  4 years agoPost 570
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To actually convince your brain that NOTHING created
EVERYTHING is simply untenable, pedestrian and ignorant.
While I fully respect your viewpoint, I never saw anything in this thread that ever suggested that NOTHING created EVERYTHING. There's always something. It may be matter, anti-matter, dark matter, gray matter, or it may be something along the lines of what you believe but it has never been claimed to be "nothing".

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11-08-2013 12:53 AM  4 years agoPost 571
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breading
did I spell that wrong LOL

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11-08-2013 12:56 AM  4 years agoPost 572
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Impossible! The nucleotide substitution rate in eukaryote is not sufficiently high to allow speciation is such short period of time
I hear it is in Japan

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11-08-2013 02:37 AM  4 years agoPost 573
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^^^^^^^^
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11-08-2013 04:38 AM  4 years agoPost 574
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The fact is no one really knows sh%t ,,it is a waste of time trying to convince someone of anything,,,,look at Congress,,,STALEMATE .This is very recent activity,,not history. Ask me what i believe and guess what,,, half of you will not agree,,,,who cares,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i don't,,,everyone stands by their beliefs and wants others to follow ,,,I dont go there,,,it is a waste of time.

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11-08-2013 01:33 PM  4 years agoPost 575
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Thomas
Did I hurt your feelings?
Wow you really have stooped to a low that I didn't think you could do. I'm sorry dude but you just lost any respect I did have for you. You need to get a grip and do some self evaluation. Get some help if you can.
What's wrong Thomas can't you take a joke? I really don't see what your issue is I could have used the words "Can" and "Does" You should be grateful for that.

Lets clear up a few things I don't want your respect. I certainty don't have any for you not after your twisting my words and lying about things I've said I have waited weeks to see if you felt guilty about misrepresenting me. Clearly you do not.
I am able to forgive but that doesn't mean I will forget his comments anytime soon;(
I don't want your forgiveness nor do I care if you remember or forget my comments.

On to business then.
I asked simple questions and get nothing but this ?
And it was answered for you once in the article. Then I repeated it twice. And you still didn't get it so then again this last time. So what's going on either you are dumb or you fully understand it and are playing stupid. So to be clear I believe you understand it just fine. Either way if your dumb or playing dumb you will be treated as such.
As far as the twins ,yes they have identical DNA which I stated is part of the molecular makeup of EVERYTHING around us yet the result is a distinctly different person . NEVER has there been an exact duplicate. Why? Do you understand this or should I type slower or get sign type?
I understand just fine I'm not sure what your point is. To be honest this just further points out your lack of understanding of evolution.

Gearhead
Hoogy, we want to see some new and REAL evolution that has taken place in the last 10,000 years, not some lizard that has changed a bit due to breading
Did you watch the video? they are indicating this process started around 10 Million years ago. The point of putting this video forward was to show what a ring species is. Gearhead if your really not interested why post. For the record if you think the earth is 10,000years old or less and that's why you put that number forward it's going to be very difficult to explain anything about it. Not much is going to fit in that time frame.

R Hudson
think that you both (Thomas and Hoggy) should criticize each other's reading and writing capabilities because nothing bolsters a point better than suggesting that the other person is "slow".
I'm not so much criticizing his reading and writing capabilities more his comprehension skills. I could pick up all of his spelling mistakes but I don't they are minor. He has already confessed to being a Mac owner and having a poor spell checker... However I really have no sympathy for sheeple who buy Mac's. My issue is having to repeat the answer more then twice when it's not hard to understand.

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I look at his thread time to time, and always wonder why no one seems to look at the idea that creationism, ID, and evolution all coexist well
It's because they don't anybody why says they do is being rather dishonest. People who think like this are normally the easiest to debunk. That statement of course refers to people who have a religious doctrine to follow. If you are a Deist you can no doubt make it work.
Do the evolutionists or creationists ever wonder..."Gee...Wonder what we will become in a couple more million years...?
I think the correct word would be scientists and it seems the Answer would be yes they do wonder. As for the creationists the hard core ones at least well they already know just ask them.

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I'm not going to quote your bit. I'm going to remind you though that this is not the thread for it. In fact you started a thread that is if you want to discuss it some more let's go over there. For what it's worth as far as I can tell plenty of religious people embrace evolution. Proving evolution doesn't really disprove the existence of a God at the start of this thread I posted a video of Ken Miller he's a Christian. Also for what it's worth for many years I considered myself and Agnostic and I didn't think Evolution or the Creation myth told in the Bible were right. I wish my teachers were not so afraid of teaching the evidence because when you look at the evidence of which there are mountains it becomes clear that evolution is a fact. I tried to find evidence for creation and well there is none.

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The fact is no one really knows sh%t ,,it is a waste of time trying to convince someone of anything
That's not at all true science works. The evidence stacks up and it can be proven.

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11-08-2013 02:06 PM  4 years agoPost 576
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Also Helicopter I don't believe there was ever nothing I think you'll find that is impossible. If I ask you to define nothing I don't think you'll be able to.

However a good book for you would be A Universe From Nothing by Lawrence M. Krauss

It's not proof but it does give a plausible explanation.

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11-08-2013 02:25 PM  4 years agoPost 577
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I don't want your forgiveness nor do I care if you remember or forget my comments.
First off what i said was I am capable of ,not offering forgiveness ( ie can,may,will,won't,). Again showing your comprehension skills during a conversation.
Your post just show your deep rooted disrespect for anybody who disagrees with you. Get a life dude

10 years or 10,000 years the lizard is still a lizard,a warble is still a warble and Be it a horse,donkey,zebra or mule ,your still still show yourself to be the jackass in the room

if you think I twisted or lied you are never restricted by any means to clarify your point . Fell free To do so or dont complain.

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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11-09-2013 01:47 AM  4 years agoPost 578
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I don't believe there was ever nothing I think you'll find that is impossible
oh, so you believe ??, like that means something to the world ?? just because you believe, does not make it something

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11-09-2013 11:42 AM  4 years agoPost 579
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I don't believe there was ever nothing I think you'll find that is impossible
oh, so you believe ??, like that means something to the world ?? just because you believe, does not make it something
The fact that they don't have any real support for a THEROY as to what created the universe is why it is skirted around in te science arena. One would really think that what started all of this would be of the utmost item on the agenda to understand as it would totally define the nature of and understanding of everything that followed. Yet it seems to be the most neglected area of study . Why?

You cannot legalize morality. It's internal not external. You either have it or you don't.

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11-09-2013 04:13 PM  4 years agoPost 580
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The fact that they don't have any real support for a THEROY as to what created the universe is why it is skirted around in te science arena. One would really think that what started all of this would be of the utmost item on the agenda to understand as it would totally define the nature of and understanding of everything that followed. Yet it seems to be the most neglected area of study . Why?
Science studies things that can be shown to exist, not things that cannot be shown to exist. People have believed in various creator Gods throughout the ages, and nobody can show that any of them exist.

Scientists can study the universe using telescopes and spacecraft, and they can study evolution on earth using the fossil evidence. But there is nothing that can be shown to exist, for scientists to study, in respect of ''what'' might have created the universe.

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