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01-25-2013 02:21 PM  4 years agoPost 1
Girard Ibanez

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Anyone converted their old tape memories to DVD. If so what software/hardware did you use and pros / cons.

Got lots of 8mm tapes and hopefully a functional mechanical Sony camera that I can use for the interface to computer. I hope it still works if not ...

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01-25-2013 03:02 PM  4 years agoPost 2
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http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DVDirect...5/dp/B000SML2BQ

Here is what I used for converting my 8mm tapes to digital from my sony handicam.

I didn't have to buy it as we have one at work.

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01-25-2013 03:16 PM  4 years agoPost 3
Girard Ibanez

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http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DVDirect-DVD-Recorder-VRDMC5/dp/B000SML2BQ
Fortunate for you ... that's a steep price.


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01-25-2013 03:45 PM  4 years agoPost 4
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Sure is. I never would have been able to convert them. I'm sure there are alternatives. There is a business local to me that will do it. I don't know what they charge though but if you hvae a lot of tapes then a steep fee for a device becomes attractive.

EDIT: Ebay has them "new" or half of the amazon price!

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01-25-2013 04:17 PM  4 years agoPost 5
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You'll want to convert them to a digital format and keep them on a flash drive (or two, one in a safety deposit box). Flash drives would be considerably more reliable than DVD.

DVD is on its way out, not to many more years and players won't even exist.

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01-25-2013 04:57 PM  4 years agoPost 6
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Want to hear something funny?
I was in a conference last year for the motion picture industry. The theme of the conference was "Archiving for the next 100 years".
In other words, as everything goes digital, how do you archive it so it could be played back in 50 to 100 years?

The tape player technology is changing every 2 to 3 years - VHS, Betamax, 8mm, 8mm digital, CD, DVD, DVD-dual layer, BlueRay - etc.

Most of the attendees figured the BEST archive method was still film. Film from 100 years ago can still be played back using a light and lens.

So, does anyone think that "Avatar" will be playable in 20 to 40 years? Or, will there be a sad little documentary about the loss of all those "classics" from the "Early 2000s"?

Having said that - converting from 8mm analog to digital would require a speedy computer with a big internal HD (500GB minimum free space), a video card that has the S-Video input with a sound card with stereo inputs.
S-Video is the best quality video output from the older 8mm Sony camcorder. If it doesn't have S-Video, then you could be stuck with a lower quality - composite video (single yellow video plug). The lower the quality of the video connection, the worse the digital version will look. And there is no easy way to clean it up once it is converted.

Then, you have to get some software to import the video stream and audio from camcorder. Some are easy, some not so much.

Typically, each tape will have to be played from start to finish. If the camcorder has a firewire connection, you might be able to control start, stop, FF, RW - basic stuff like that. But your computer will need the firewire (IEEE 1394) (Older MacBook Pro had firewair). If you have the right software, it will detect scene changes and create separate files for each scene. Otherwise, it will end up being one big file per tape - and that is a bitch to edit.

Once the video is imported to the computer, you can store it on a hard drive (or flash - I wouldn't use flash though). You can also edit it, link clips together and build a story (all the video of your kid growing up & going to school - etc).

Then, you can use a DVD burning software package to burn a DVD to play on your DVD player / BlueRay.

Piece of cake.

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01-25-2013 04:59 PM  4 years agoPost 7
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or flash - I wouldn't use flash though
Flash would be considerably more reliable than a DVD or a hard drive (no moving parts, not susceptible to scratches). Already computer vendors are selling units without DVD drives.

Loss-less digital copy is the way to go.

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01-25-2013 05:13 PM  4 years agoPost 8
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Can you describe how you get "Loss-less Digital Copy" from an analog 8mm tape?

You do understand that just because it is on tape doesn't mean it is digital.

The expensive box on Amazon is an analog tape playback system that converts to a digital (A to D) file.

Oh BTW: Is that flash hooked up via ATA? SATA? SAS?
In other words - the media doesn't matter.
It is the codec and trancoders that wrote it and play it back that matter.
I make it a habit to copy all my digital archives (pictures and video) to newer storage every few years - DLT, LTO, rotating disk, rotating plate (CD / DVD), flash, USB, Cloud - what ever.

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01-25-2013 05:19 PM  4 years agoPost 9
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I see that you are in Tucson. Costco does conversions. I had a couple old VHS tapes done and it went well. Don't remember the exact cost but not bad, I think. Might be a good option if you don't have lots to convert.

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01-25-2013 05:22 PM  4 years agoPost 10
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I understand everything about the topic as I've done it many times, the media certainly matters for long term storage or Girard (obviously) wouldn't be in this predicament.

Loss-less digital copy means an exact digital copy of whatever the source material is. So an exact digital copy of whatever is on the 8mm (and whatever video condition that implies) stored with a loss-less codec, that's the best quality he can hope to achieve without post-transcode editing of some sort but he would still need to keep a loss-less original as he's trying to archive the memories.

Redundant sets of USB flash drives would be best, most reliable, consumer-friendly, affordable and compatible long term storage solution.

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01-25-2013 07:22 PM  4 years agoPost 11
Girard Ibanez

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The problem I see is that I have a lot of tapes to convert which means $$$$.

Not sure if I would just convert each tape 1:1 or post edit and make a title page for ease of archiving each memory.

Thanks for the inputs and suggestions.


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01-25-2013 07:25 PM  4 years agoPost 12
Girard Ibanez

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... keep a loss-less original as he's trying to archive the memories.
Yes, loss-less format.


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01-25-2013 07:35 PM  4 years agoPost 13
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Flash drives are the cats meow for now. But they only last so long, 10,000 to 100,000 uses. With every day use one would expect to die in 5-10 years. But if you flased to it once and stored it would last a heck of a long time maybe hundreds of years in the right condtion. I hear NASA is working on a new DVD that could last millions of years in space. Made from some high tech stuff.

Good luck on your conversion.

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02-11-2013 05:38 AM  4 years agoPost 14
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After hours upon hours of trial and errors with 3 usb interfaced, I finally settled on a lossyless format (.avi) using Virtualdub (freeware).

Virtualdub is by far the best software that I tried. Some of the software that were included in the usb hardware are, Honestech, Roxio and Dazzle.

All three softwares are less desirable and have no flexibility of using a lossyless format as they are created for creating DVD formats.

I settled with the Dazzle hardware as it provide the best interface for my computer with no distortion. Roxio worked here and there and had clip video around the borders, Honestech made a ticking noise (normal per Honestech support) but no ticking during recording, also with the Honestech there was a color or hue variation on the upper portion of the vid.

As for the Dazzle, I had no issues with the captured videos and it produce better results than the Roxio or the Honetech.

In summary, I'll be capturing the tapes in .avi format, editing the captured video than saving the files as .avi. Storing in .avi files would be large but provides the best resolution. I may have to purchase a dedicated hard drive for these precious captured moments.


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02-11-2013 08:03 PM  4 years agoPost 15
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$35, $25 after Rebate.

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02-12-2013 11:49 PM  4 years agoPost 16
Girard Ibanez

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Dood,

Have you tried the DIAMOND One Touch Video Capture, Edit and Burn to DVD USB 2.0 Adapter VC500 USB 2.0 Interface.

Just curious has I had only 1 good hardware success out of 3 hardwares that I tried. I would like to get just the hardware as the software on all 3 that I tried sucks.

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02-14-2013 04:00 PM  4 years agoPost 17
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