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01-24-2013 11:49 PM  4 years agoPost 1
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/...--politics.html

Seems like this will give the next nutcase a bad idea...classroom OO buckshot...not good

Are you looking into buying an assault weapon for protection after a devastating natural disaster (or the coming Zombie Apocalypse) plunges society into deadly anarchy? You’ve got it all wrong, Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday: Get yourself a shotgun.

Biden, doing a Google+ “hangout” to promote President Barack Obama’s proposals for battling gun violence, had been asked whether a new assault weapons ban might infringe on the Second Amendment rights of those who want one “as a last line of defense” to fend off looters after “some terrible natural disaster.”

“Guess what? A shotgun will keep you a lot safer, a double-barreled shotgun, than the assault weapon in somebody’s hands [who] doesn’t know how to use it, even one who does know how to use it,” the outspoken vice president, a shotgun owner himself, replied. “It’s harder to use an assault weapon to hit something than it is a shotgun. You want to keep people away in an earthquake? Buy some shotgun shells.”

With the fate of Obama’s gun violence proposals unclear in the face of stiff opposition from most Republicans and some Democrats, Biden urged supporters of ideas like imposing a new assault weapons ban, limiting ammunition clips to 10 rounds and toughening background checks to pressure their elected representatives. “This town listens when people rise up and speak,” Biden said.

Like Obama before him, the vice president emphasized that he's a firm believer in the Second Amendment—but compared proposed new curbs on assault weapons to keeping fully-equipped F-15 fighter jets off the market.

“You have an individual right to own a weapon both for recreation, for hunting and also for your self-protection,” he said. "But just as you don’t have an individual right to go out and buy an F-15—if you’re a billionaire—with ordnance on it, just like you don’t have the right to buy an M-1 tank, just like you don’t have a right to buy an automatic weapon" you should not be able to get other weapons for which there is "no reasonable societal justification, or constitutional justification."

Biden noted that "it's not about keeping bad guns out of the hands of good people, it's about keeping all guns out of the hands of bad people. There should be rational limits."

One of Biden's questioners asked why, if they're rational, there's the lack of political will to enact them.

Biden paused, then said he would have to watch his words. “Both left and right sometimes take absolutist positions," he said.

The vice president emphasized that the administration was not calling for armed guards in schools, a proposal recently floated by the National Rifle Association. Instead, schools would have the flexibility to hire a uniformed guard, armed or not, if they so desired.

But Biden warned it would be a "terrible mistake" to arm school staff. "The last thing we need to do is be arming schoolteachers and administrators" who may not have firearm training, he said.

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01-25-2013 12:20 AM  4 years agoPost 2
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Keltech makes a great looking defence shotgun.

Triple tubes, holds a bazillion rounds...

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01-25-2013 12:46 AM  4 years agoPost 3
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Triple tubes on a Kel-Tec?

I know they have a single-barrel double-tube that holds 14 rounds.

BTW, I find it funny what Biden said about fully-automatic weapons and how you "don't have a right to buy them". I guess even he doesn't know about a Class 3 license.

Obviously they are cost-prohibitive to own but far from illegal.

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01-25-2013 01:36 AM  4 years agoPost 4
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"We are Americans," Mueller wrote. "We must not allow, nor shall we tolerate, the actions of criminals, no matter how heinous the crimes, to prompt politicians to enact laws that will infringe upon the liberties of responsible citizens who have broken no laws."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...k#ixzz2Ivr7kavf

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01-25-2013 01:45 AM  4 years agoPost 5
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We have gun laws. Just enforce them.

Or at the very least, ask the attorney general to NOT give assault weapons to drug cartels with a history of malicious violence against others.

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01-25-2013 02:29 AM  4 years agoPost 6
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We have gun laws. Just enforce them.
Absolutely!

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01-25-2013 09:11 AM  4 years agoPost 7
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I suppose if you use a shotgun might be safer in a home or outside,every time you miss with an assault type rifle,where do the missed shots end up.Remember seeing footage of Nazis shooting back to back Jewish prisoners at point blank with a single rifle bullet taking down five or six at a time.Modern bullets probably have far greater penetration.

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01-25-2013 12:25 PM  4 years agoPost 8
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01-25-2013 12:26 PM  4 years agoPost 9
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^^^ Strange reaction from the Cops?

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01-25-2013 02:12 PM  4 years agoPost 10
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Grant's Pass Retirement Village New;s

93 Year Old Earl Skizick: With dementia is again claiming to have shot a wandering bear with his 7.62 on main street.

Mr. Skizick: Is a retired WWII Vet from the European Campaign

Skizick : Resides at Wandering Spirit Veteran retirement facility. Earl claim's to have been sitting on the toilet looking out the window having his morning constitution,when he had reconnoitered the adult Bear at about 350 yard's.

Mr Skizick claims that during his constitutional event, that the critter appeared acting strange and to be making the public nervous, and children where walking to school.

Earl claim's that the bear pelt is his, who ever took it please bring it too the Wandering Spirit Facility, he will gratefully cover the tanning charges for the pelt.

When the attending staff of Wandering Spirit was questioned about Earl's claim's: They responded: " You just got to know Old Earl Slizick" He's a WWII vet and is always seeing thing's and having visions.

When the staff was asked if they heard any thing from Earl's room in the morning of the so called event they responded:

We had Chile for Dinner last Nite and Pop corn for the late nite snak. You just got too know Earl.

No one has returned the pelt

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01-25-2013 02:35 PM  4 years agoPost 11
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Hey GREY,are you saying AR toting Warren might be related to old Earl?Sat there like a grenade waiting to go off? Do you think that cop had a scanner to check his brain functions out?

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01-25-2013 02:41 PM  4 years agoPost 12
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01-25-2013 02:43 PM  4 years agoPost 13
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^^^You would think the cops would know the law,why the apprehension?

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01-25-2013 03:19 PM  4 years agoPost 14
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If other people are threatened by a law abiding citizen carrying....well, it seems to me that is their problem.

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01-25-2013 03:30 PM  4 years agoPost 15
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The Snaill shall get to the Ark : HE Just Slime's His way Their

So much going on in that clip- most don't see two third's of It

In the United States : ALL MEN " citizen's " are CREATED EQUAL

!st why the Bait ?? The key Chain CAm = Then degree's of Separation begin

Their are 4 player's

Some of the coolest professionalism I have ever saw - each played a very specific roll.

Need's a better vest than that old plate on a strap - didn't recognize what was on the single point.

All three were cold as ICE - the degree's of separation

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01-25-2013 03:37 PM  4 years agoPost 16
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So ... a guy is running around with guns and talking to himself.... so people will think it is normal. hmmmm.

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01-25-2013 03:47 PM  4 years agoPost 17
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irocu88,

True but then their problem becomes a problem for the Police, hence the checks. If Police get even one report of someone carrying a wepon in public they ARE going to respond. It is their job to do so. Truth is guns open-carried in public places make most people nervous. It's as simple as that. People have no idea who is stable and who is not but they see a firearm and it sets-off their self-defense mechanisms.

I think that people should be able to open-carry as well but society as a whole is NOT receptive to the idea because they only envision the bad things associated with guns thanks to the media.

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01-25-2013 04:09 PM  4 years agoPost 18
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Nero and His Minion's started the place on fire - Nero has a Problem !

I believe as " Citizen's" and TAX - PAYER"S -

The Indentured One's

WE THE PEOPLE : Should be ENTITLED FREE !!!

Due to the Social Economic Condition's that Nero created

To HAVE ALL The Free Fire Stick's Given to US !!! along with Any ancillary desert or sorbet we think is necessary to cleanse the pallet.

It's good for the Economy - and It will Provide Job's

Just put it on the TAB !!!!

It's the least they can do !!!

NERO is on FIRE

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01-25-2013 05:12 PM  4 years agoPost 19
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R hudson,

I agree with you...the police should respond if called, and just because you can do something, does not mean you should. I would not do that even though it is perfectly legal because it just gives more publicity to a subject that needs no more. However people need to get a life, I would not call the police just because I saw an individual openly carrying in a holster....now if they were brandishing or pointing at people, that would be a different story.

People are just to damn paranoid now days.....mostly because of the MSM.

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