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01-06-2013 03:09 PM  5 years agoPost 1
Ghostrider-rc

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Hi all,
I'm just working on a 450 Huey 412 and I enjoy it more then I thought ... I'm jumping the gun a bit but I'm thinking of the next one already!!
anyways from what I can see most use a Trex 600 or similar as a base for fuse work, but I wonder if a LOGO 600 frame would work well ? since I have most mechanic parts in a drawer ... + they run so smooth and a large selection of gears/pinions I figure it would be good.
What fuse would work well ? any examples ?
cheers

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01-06-2013 03:43 PM  5 years agoPost 2
2tall

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I have used the same set of Rex 600 mechanics in three scale fuselages. The one advantage employed in two of the three was the available torque tube tail drive conversion by Align. I have found the shaft drive easier to assemble and maintain inside of a scale boom.

My third ship, the small Vario UH1D uses the belt drive off the tail but only as far as the after market mechanism that lowers the TR output position by several inches. From there it becomes a flex shaft drive. (Pics in my gallery) To the best of my knowledge that TR output lowering set is not available for a Logo. The stock Logo TR output appears to be a bit lower than the Align to begin with, but not by a great deal. The point here is that when the fit is not perfect you are more likley to find an off-the-shelf solution for Align than you would be for a Logo.

The Align mechanics are commonly used by the fuselage designers as one of the compatibility models. Raptor and Century mechanics are common templates as well. Kit parts, in some cases even custom frame sets, and instructions are included that simplify the use of Align mechanics. Century mechanics are very affordable and a good match for any of the fuselage kits sold by Century/Helicopter World such as the Funkey series.

Having said that, your Logo 600 can probably be made to work in many scale situations. It just may take more work and greater modeling/design skills.

Many scalers keep one ship in pod and boom configuration, I do. It allows us to practice flying skills without risking a build season of scale work. I keep mine geared/powered to fly at very low head speeds. It mimics the response of a heavier scale ship.

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01-06-2013 03:45 PM  5 years agoPost 3
cap231ex

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A Logo it a great choice for scale because of the same reasons you stated.
The only draw back is the height of the frame , there for you would want to pick a fuselage which is taller.
I would say something like a MD500 , Bell 206 Jet Ranger , Bell 206L Long Ranger , or EC-145 would all be good choices.

You might even think about stepping up to a 700 size fuselage and stretching your Logo 600 into a 700 by changing the belt and boom.

Here is a build by a good guy over on RCG's , he is using a Logo 500 stretched to a 600 inside a 600 size MD500.

Hope this helps , and enjoy scale.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1774760

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01-06-2013 05:54 PM  5 years agoPost 4
Keygrigger

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Thanks, cap231ex. I can add that with the number of boom lengths available for the Logo 500/600, you can order parts to custom tailor the length to the specific body you are building (550 right up to 700 size). I started with a 5003D and ordered the 500SE boom and belt. I had an assortment of pinions that came with the heli when I bought it used. The one thing already mentioned is the very high frame but most of that is looks coming from the fact that the boom is so low on the frame and angled forward when it is sitting on the ground. That makes it a real bear to work out but it can be done on many body kits out there.

It would work out wonderfully in an AS350 body as that has a very large tail section to mount the low boom in. My choice, the MD500 body, was nip and tuck all the way as I started to second guess my decision. It is very close to the bottom of the boom and on my build, you will see what height I needed to add to the chassis to get it to feed down that very high boom. The servos do limit how hight it gets in the body, though, and it is a very tight fit at the doghouse. It does, however, make a great set of mechanics that can be modified to leave the cockpit area fairly clear if you are not afraid to alter the frame. Hope this helps.

Don

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01-06-2013 06:50 PM  5 years agoPost 5
Mojave

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JMHO, and I don't wish to step on anyone's toes, but I don't like any mechs with a belt drive in my scalers. Not that I don't like the logo heli, it's just a lot more difficult to get everything where you need it and still keep the mainshaft height and angles correct. Plus it's a real pita to adjust belt tension once the mechs are in the fuse. I don't know if the logo has a self adjusting belt tension, but the rex mechs don't. I really like TQ tube style mechs, because I can make almost anything work with a flex drive, or modified TQ tube set up. You can stretch or shorten the boom and tq tube to suit your needs (within reason). Not saying you can't make it work, but my opinion is to sell the logo mechs and apply the funds to a better suited donor. It will save you time and frustration. Hope this info helps you out.
Barry

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01-06-2013 07:27 PM  5 years agoPost 6
Dr.Tim

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The "Raptor Adapter" is a good solution for a Belt to Shaft conversion.

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01-06-2013 08:54 PM  5 years agoPost 7
Mojave

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I wish that Raptor adapter had been available before I sold both my E550 and E620 rappy's... Nice piece and it solves a lot of issues for that airframe.
Barry

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01-06-2013 09:04 PM  5 years agoPost 8
Dr.Tim

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been around now for about 8 years!

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01-07-2013 12:14 AM  5 years agoPost 9
Ghostrider-rc

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wow you guys are an active bunch !!
thanks for all the input I'll think about that.
I may give it a try, I was thinking of a Ec135 or Ecureuil type heli, better get this 450 Huey of the ground first !!

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