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HelicopterFlight School › How-To: Piro Flips with Video
01-02-2013 08:42 PM  5 years agoPost 1
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Pre-requisites
One absolute prerequisite I should mention before you start any of this is you should already be very comfortable with inverted hovering. If you can't invert hover without making mistakes in all orientations keep working on that and come back to this later.

Start with half flips
Start learning a half flip by doing the elevator and rudder movements seperately at first.

1. Start upright tail in.
2. Give a little positive pitch to keep the heli from falling
3. Push forward until the nose is pointing straight down.
4. Stop pushing forward then give left rudder until the tail is straight down.
5. Pull back on the stick to level out. You will be inverted with the tail facing you.
6. Stop there and regain control if you are a little off.

Keep doing this until you are comfortable. Gradually work the sticks in unison to smooth it out into a single roll/flip. Ultimately you want to start by pushing forward and giving left rudder at the same time. Then you should roll the cyclic stick clockwise until it gets to the 6 o'clock position. Timed right you will get a smooth roll and end with the heli inverted tail in.

Once tail in inverted you pull back on the stick and continue to give left rudder (same rudder all the time). You will roll the cyclic stick smoothly clockwise from the 6 o'clock position back to the 12 o'clock position. Again this should end up being a continuous smooth roll. You will end up where you started upright and tail in.

Practice each half slowly and eventually you can start to put them together to do a full half piro flip.

Full Piro Flips
You should be completely comfortable and dead on with half piros before considering upgrading to full piros. You should also be proficient in flips and rolls that end with the heli nose in inverted. I.E. practice nose in rolls and flips making sure you can stop halfway while still in control...

1. Start upright tail in again.
2. This time you will apply forward cyclic and left rudder again but you will need to give more left then with a half flip because you want a full piro rotation.
3. Stir the cyclic clockwise as before, but this time follow the tail completely around and stir in a complete circle. It's important to always stir with the speed of the tail. Watch the tail go around and move the stick around as it moves. It's a timing thing and the more you do it the sooner it will "click"
4. If timed right and all goes well you will end up inverted nose in.
5. Make sure to pause here and regain control before trying to flip back out.
6. When starting out just reset and start over at this point. Keep repeating this until you can get the heli to stop and correctly be at the inverted nose in position. Without being able to do this properly you will never get a clean piro flip.
7. The beauty here is you just do the exact same movements to get back to upright tail in again. Repeat this as many times as it takes to start to get this to look and feel right. This part was always easier for me because you end up upright again which was easier for me to regain full control of in case I'm a little off on the timing.

The important thing here is to stop at each half when you are learning. Do not try to do full flips when you are starting out. They will be very sloppy at best and you won't know why. Also doing one half at a time will make learning the timing of the stir with the tail much much easier. Work on each half slowly and dont start going again until you are back in control and the heli is centered and back in front of you if you drifted away. When you are ready you can start to link the two halfs together to become a seamless full flip.

As always if you are new to this stuff definately only try this on a sim until you get a good idea of what you are doing. You are nearly guaranteed to crash doing this stuff.

Anyways thats how I've been learning and I've only needed a little over a month to get this mostly down. So I hope this is useful for some people that are looking to learn.

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01-03-2013 01:32 AM  5 years agoPost 2
altima1779

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Thanks for this video! I have always given up on piroflips because I never knew where to start. I actually googled piroflips and this video came up. In a short time I was at least making progress on the half piroflips.

Now I know what to practice on and hopefully someday will get them down.

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01-03-2013 01:59 AM  5 years agoPost 3
AWittleWabbit

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Just wanted to post thanks for making that video. I've had it favorited on youtube for sometime now. I hope to see more.

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05-23-2013 04:11 AM  4 years agoPost 4
BradNewman

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Thanks!
Just wanted to thank you for the information, your video is helping me understand the mechanics of piro flips
You da Man!

Remember to keep everything balanced!

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06-15-2013 07:10 PM  4 years agoPost 5
Einzelganger

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Super video.
This has been an enormous help!
Thank You!

Wayne

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RIP Roman

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11-06-2014 03:05 AM  3 years agoPost 6
raholek

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Great help
Thank you for taking time to make these videos.

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02-12-2015 03:55 PM  3 years agoPost 7
jessdigs

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Another great video. I'm watching these at work, and wishing I had my SIM to practice on

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03-12-2015 01:35 AM  3 years agoPost 8
spinner55

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Great video,I've been working on it for months, occasionally I do a single piro flip right. It keeps me going.

"Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect."

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