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10-24-2012 04:59 PM  5 years agoPost 1
holzback

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im a fb fan, and think it will always be like that. It seems that companies dont really care about the fb guys anymore, and focus new tech on fbl systems and heads.the latest gyro has been out for awhile now, and it seems like most every new heli that has a fb is last on the list and a fbl set-up is what gets all the attention. I would like to see new designs come out for gyros and fb helis.

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10-24-2012 05:07 PM  5 years agoPost 2
Darren Lee

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Probably headed the same way as horse and buggy technology.

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10-24-2012 05:11 PM  5 years agoPost 3
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I agree .. flybars are out .. very few folks want them, not enough demand to make it worth designing new kits or tail gyros.

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10-24-2012 05:44 PM  5 years agoPost 4
Auddiss

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I don't even see any new kits coming out where they even offer a FB head anymore! Once you fly a FBL Heli you won't look back

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10-24-2012 05:51 PM  5 years agoPost 5
holzback

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I don't even see any new kits coming out where they even offer a FB head anymore! Once you fly a FBL Heli you won't look back
not true at all, in fact many are coming back, im one of them. even on the sim i feel the difference, i just dont like the feel of fbl as much.

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10-24-2012 06:04 PM  5 years agoPost 6
bkervaski

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not true at all, in fact many are coming back, im one of them. even on the sim i feel the difference, i just dont like the feel of fbl as much.
Unfortunately, you're in a very, very small minority.

It's just supply and demand .. the tiny handful of people that still want flybars isn't enough to sustain the (lack of) market for new kits and gyros ..

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10-24-2012 06:59 PM  5 years agoPost 7
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FB is gone and won't be coming back except maybe from a boutique. There is too much money saved with the reduction in parts for the heli manufacturers to go back. heck, they even had us paying more for less heli for a while there. My entire fleet is FB so I'm sorry to see it go but I also see why it's going. Lower parts count, more power into the disk with less drag and fewer parts to replace in a crash.

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10-24-2012 07:15 PM  5 years agoPost 8
Dood

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Probably headed the same way as horse and buggy technology.
But they still make horses, don't they?
That said, I like flybars, too. I'm still not convinced that fbl systems are better than standard mechanical systems. Different? yes. Better? That's just a matter of opinion.

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10-24-2012 07:33 PM  5 years agoPost 9
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I like FB myself, fbl is cool though. But you really don't save much money, because you have to use better servos, digital, and fbl unit. FBL Unit which if gets ruined in a crash is big money to replace. FBL Yes fewer parts count, but is replaced with much more costly electronics. More hipe, than anything else. I do have one FBL heli, but I have not got it airborne yet.

FBL is the new fad.
They will have something to top that in a few years. No Blade Heli's, rides on a magnetic field, or something.

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10-24-2012 07:34 PM  5 years agoPost 10
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i like fb better.. just me. i do have a fbl though..

i set my fb bird up after my fbl and it was so easy lol OLD SCHOOL

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10-24-2012 07:44 PM  5 years agoPost 11
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FB heli flyers will become the Amish community of r.c. helis lol

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10-24-2012 07:47 PM  5 years agoPost 12
holzback

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i think that there is more of a market out there than what companies think. it is kinda of hard for the fb helis to stay in the game at all when they are not even a option so many times. plus they are not coming up with advancements like the fbl systems and helis, people like the new cool stuff.

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10-24-2012 07:47 PM  5 years agoPost 13
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^^^^ lol

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10-24-2012 08:05 PM  5 years agoPost 14
bkervaski

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i think that there is more of a market out there than what companies think.
Events and local fields unfortunately disagree.

Reps are pushing FBL, Pros are flying FBL, so folks are buying FBL.

I've seen maybe a ratio of 100:1 of FBL to FB flying at IRCHA and other events this year. Lots of flybars sitting around under tables, but folks were flying their flybarless setups.

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10-24-2012 09:21 PM  5 years agoPost 15
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where is fb technology headed
What's that?

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10-24-2012 10:13 PM  5 years agoPost 16
holzback

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Events and local fields unfortunately disagree.

Reps are pushing FBL, Pros are flying FBL, so folks are buying FBL.

I've seen maybe a ratio of 100:1 of FBL to FB flying at IRCHA and other events this year. Lots of flybars sitting around under tables, but folks were flying their flybarless setups.
i agree about the events, but that is no way to gauge, there are many who never go. working at the hobby shop you realize that there are still a lot of fb guys out there. we sell at least the same amount of fb 450 blades as the fbl 450 blades, if not more.

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10-24-2012 10:18 PM  5 years agoPost 17
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Reps are pushing FBL, Pros are flying FBL, so folks are buying FBL.
Because of this, it is typical response that everyone wants to be the first to have it and want to have the latest and greatest. The heli manufacturers are pricing themselves out of the market due to so called R&D.

This hobby is becoming one for the rich. A lot of nice helis out there, but the cost is getting prohibative for many. I know several people who have gotten out of the hobby due to the expense as crashing now costs a lot more. Now adding more expense for FBL units and better servos make helis untouchable for many folks. I believe the heli manufactures could sell their helis and electronics for less and sell more which in turn would probably make for a higher profit.

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10-24-2012 11:38 PM  5 years agoPost 18
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...very few folks want them, not enough demand to make it worth designing new kits or tail gyros...
Gyros? Those will never catch on, just an unreliable electronic crutch.

"Pay attention...lest the ground rise up and smite thee."

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10-25-2012 01:13 AM  5 years agoPost 19
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it's a good question.
Gyros? Those will never catch on, just an unreliable electronic crutch.
in da beginning there was, wait, no gyro, then all of a sudden a piezo was used to send a counter signal to a tail servo and a flybar was used to counter gyroscopic tendencies of a pair of blades whirling at high rpm.

Man did not get lazy. Not too long ago he took the GYRO main rotor, added a GYRO to the tail servo, and he then added more GYROs to his pitch and roll, thanks be to GYRO. Gyro, Gyro, Gyro, Gyro, four Gyro's I aught to know, I successfully tried it.

Now he combines the gyros to a receiver and makes a convenient all in one box, which you can now program from your cell phone and or pad, and there are more rc heli advancements on the way that'll be affordable fun for the hole family, L,O,L.

fb == dodo, old fun, old crutch.

It's not fbl anymore, it's DFC, as in Don't F&@^ with Chuck

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10-25-2012 01:37 AM  5 years agoPost 20
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Whats wrong with a horse and buggy?

There are a lot of people who did not understand FB tuning because

1) low end machines did not have the range of adjustments, especially since the 1990s

2) most of what is 'the bible' of FB was written pre-internet,

The info doesn't exist in one good spot online, can't be found in instruction manuals, and is now just carried in the heads of a handful, mostly people in the industry who are going to be FBL now.

Flybars will live on with those who appreciate what they are about.

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