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08-30-2012 09:10 PM  5 years agoPost 21
splitboarder

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Just because they did not find any does not mean that at one time there were'nt any.....ever seen a million dollars in cash?...my guess is no, but that don't mean it does not exist.
uhhhh yeah.

Thats a really strong comeback. Lots of facts there

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08-30-2012 09:19 PM  5 years agoPost 22
StarFish435

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Saddam had WMD's he was using them in the months and years prior to our involvement.Saddam was given plenty of time to move any evidence of those WMD's due to the fact that Saddam didnt allow the UN in for months,allowing all evidence to be shipped back to Russia through Syria.
Hussein was internationally known for his use of chemical weapons in the 1980s against Iranian and Kurdish civilians during and after the Iran–Iraq War. It is also known that in the 1980s he pursued an extensive biological weapons program and a nuclear weapons program, though no nuclear bomb was built.
A key CIA informant in Iraq admitted that he lied about his allegations, "then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war".
Basically Hussein called Bush's bluff by not allowing the UN to search for said WMD's and got taken down.dont F with America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_a...ass_destruction

Too Much Time on My Hands....

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08-30-2012 09:30 PM  5 years agoPost 23
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Copied and pasted directly from the link above
( Thanks Dennis, I graduated your cut and paste correspondents school)

3] Later U.S.-led inspections agreed that Iraq had earlier abandoned its WMD programs, but asserted Iraq had an intention to pursue those programs if UN sanctions were ever lifted.[14] Bush later said that the biggest regret of his presidency was "the intelligence failure" in Iraq,[15] while the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration "misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq".[16] A key CIA informant in Iraq admitted that he lied about his allegations, "then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war".

maybe you should read the link before you post starfish, you really showed your ass on that one

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08-30-2012 09:32 PM  5 years agoPost 24
Dennis (RIP)

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the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration "misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq".[16] A key CIA informant in Iraq admitted that he lied about his allegations, "then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war".
Yeah right.

In 2008, the Senate Intelligence Committee were all Democrats.

Bush was called a liar by them even before any lie left his lips.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-30-2012 09:33 PM  5 years agoPost 25
StarFish435

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In 1980 the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency filed a report stating that Iraq had been actively acquiring chemical weapons capacities for several years, which later proved to be accurate.[
I did read it,the fact was they had them.

read it all ass watcher.stop looking at my ass.Barrys man on man love must be getting to you.
Since sites had been found which evidenced the destruction of chemical weaponry, UNSCOM was actively working with Iraq on methods to ascertain for certain whether the amounts destroyed matched up with the amounts that Iraq had produced.[72][73] In the next quarterly report, after the war, the total amount of proscribed items destroyed by UNMOVIC in Iraq can be gathered.[74] Those include:

50 deployed Al-Samoud 2 missiles
Various equipment, including vehicles, engines and warheads, related to the AS2 missiles
2 large propellant casting chambers
14 155 mm shells filled with mustard gas, the mustard gas totaling approximately 49 litres and still at high purity
Approximately 500 ml of thiodiglycol
Some 122 mm chemical warheads
Some chemical equipment
224.6 kg of expired growth media

Too Much Time on My Hands....

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08-30-2012 09:35 PM  5 years agoPost 26
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A lie: A truth that Democrats don't like

Or as DG Myers tweeted, at least, a contestable proposition they are too lazy to contest.
Democrats are energetically attempting to create the perception that Republicans specifically, Paul Ryan are running around Tampa making stuff up about Barack Obama (as if that's necessary). And when I say Democrats, as regrettably clich as it may sound, I also mean the mainstream media.

The following assertions, for instance, are true:
ö Obama did cut over $700 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare.
ö The stimulus was a case of political patronage, corporate welfare and cronyism.
ö The Janesville, General Motors plant was closed down under Obama (though Ryan made a more nuanced assertion that we'll cover below)
ö Obama did blow off the bipartisan debt commission.
ö Obama's waivers do allow for the relaxing of work requirements in welfare reform.

Do some Republican speakers use politically hyperbolic rhetoric on occasion to attack the president on these points? No doubt. Are some of the accusers hypocrites. Sure. Is any of this out of line with traditional political campaign rhetoric? Hardly.

You expect advocates of the president to flail away after Ryan's highly effective speech. The New Republic asks: "The Most Dishonest Convention Speech Ever?" "At least five times, Jonathan Cohn writes, Ryan misrepresented the facts." He then goes on to list five irrefutable facts that he finds ideologically distressing. Joan Walsh of MSNBC and Salon also writes of Paul Ryan's brazen lies, as is her fact-challenged way, failing to offer one. Michael Tomasky claims Ryan's speech was a "Web of Lies" but isn't kind enough to find one for his column.

But take this Associated Press piece that is, no doubt, being run across the country: "FACT CHECK: Ryan Takes Factual Shortcuts in Speech."

You know what's funny about this piece? Not a single item highlighted is a factual shortcut or an untruth. They are simply items that put the president in a bad light. Now, some conclusions Ryan comes to might be contestable or they may make Ryan look like a hypocrite, but none of them are inaccurate.

The "post-truth age, which James Fallows of the Atlantic refers to, is thriving among Democrats who've forsaken debate and have gone into the business by asserting that inconvenient truths are lies" and using that assertion as a baseline for any debate that follows. Just read Fallows' piece for evidence.

Take the "You didn't build that" theme that the convention speakers have been focusing on. Quoting Obama verbatim is, apparently, a lie. I would argue that the context of Obama's speech one that refreshes Elizabeth Warren's ode to a state-controlled economy confirms what Republicans think he meant. Now, I concede that this is a disputable assertion, but it is not a lie. Yet, read someone like Glenn Kessler, "factchecker" at The Washington Post, twisting himself into knots trying to convince you that the president didn't say what he said.

The key question is whether thatrefers to roads and bridges as the Obama campaign contends or to a business. Yes, it's a bit of a judgment call, but the clincher for us was Obama's concluding line: "The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

Why is that the key question? And even if it were, how can a self-professed broker of the truth give Two Pinocchios to the GOP when he himself acknowledges that it's a "a bit of judgment call"? Kessler is the same factchecker who gave Republican groups knocking Obama for not visiting Israel Two Pinocchios, as well. You realize, I'm sure, that it is an indisputable fact that the president has not visited Israel, but Kessler was unimpressed by the ads.

Another alleged lie of Ryan's is his contention that Obama had presided over the closing of a Janesville GM plant. Here's what Ryan said:

Especially in Janesville where we were about to lose a major factory. A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that G.M. plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said, "I believe that if our government is there to support you, this plant will be here for another 100 years."

That's what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn't last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day.

Politifact " the most dishonest of the so-called factcheckers " says this claim is false. Why? "Actually, the plant closed before he even took office," says the site.

Actually, it did not, as my colleague John Hayward explains in detail. Moreover, when you read the speech you see that Ryan was saying, not so much that Obama was at fault for the closing of the plant, but that his campaign was one of broken promises and false hope.

Ryan is making an argument about the president's vision and failed promises. With Obama's record, that's a tough debate to have for Democrats. So rather than engaging in it, they are often pretending that the parameters of the debate are unfair or that issues on the table are untrue. I doubt that that can work this time around.

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/08/...rats-dont-like/

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08-30-2012 09:37 PM  5 years agoPost 27
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Dennis
Yeah right.

In 2008, the Senate Intelligence Committee were all Democrats.

Bush was called a liar by them even before any lie left his lips.
There you have it, Dennis confirms Bush lied...
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08-30-2012 09:46 PM  5 years agoPost 28
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splitboarder can help you sell your computer.

90% of life is "showing up"

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08-30-2012 10:31 PM  5 years agoPost 29
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.what experience did Obumbum have?
Star-

You're kidding, right?? Pulling my leg? Trying to get a rise out of me???

Experience????

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08-30-2012 10:33 PM  5 years agoPost 30
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Bush lied...
Bush lied, People Fried

Wasn't that it??

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08-30-2012 10:34 PM  5 years agoPost 31
flustercluck

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splitboarder can help you sell your computer.
$25 shipped. Must be cleared of any and all evil, repelican, rightwinger mean-spirited filth.

And NO pictures of Ann Coulter!!!

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08-30-2012 10:45 PM  5 years agoPost 32
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With our ecomony tanking and the entire well being of the American citizens at stake, I see abortions and gays as minor issues. I have no connection to either of those issues myself and feel no ideology vibrations pushing me to cast a vote based on them.

We must bring back our economy. I feel better when our country is doing better.
^^^ Taken from another post you made DILBERTstien can you give me ONE economic policy Romney has put out? Just one? Whats his plans

oh wait

cut capital gains tax and hand out vouchers

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08-30-2012 10:48 PM  5 years agoPost 33
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StarFish435
so why did Barry say what he said then?oh yeah he had no clue.
What was Candidate Senator Obama going to do in 2008, after GM announced countless times the plant was targeted for closing?

The Plant was in Ryan's District in Wisconsin, what did Ryan do? From what I've heard from 2 people who worked in that GM plant,, Ryan did nothing. He wanted it closed because it was a Union shop and Republicons hate Unions.
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08-30-2012 10:55 PM  5 years agoPost 34
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Ryan did nothing. He wanted it closed because it was a Union shop and Republicons hate Unions.
So ah.

Whats wrong with that?

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-30-2012 11:13 PM  5 years agoPost 35
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08-30-2012 11:14 PM  5 years agoPost 36
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It was a planned scheduled closing in advance - Sept 23 / 08

THEN B.O. made of Promises and Hope and Change

SOld them smoke to save it

What State ?? Yup !!!!

Why did the Plant Close ???

The UNION's BUSTED IT

If you cannot compete and make a product with profit with over head load cost's

YOUR BUSTED GET OUT of the Business and find a more favorable area to do business

greyeagle

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08-30-2012 11:50 PM  5 years agoPost 37
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Split, you're dead-on, brother!!!! Hell's bells, Romnut has already made America worse, just by becoming the so-called "nominee" of the right-wingdinger party of chumps & fools!!!

But this clown doesn't fool us, does he?!!!

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08-31-2012 12:29 AM  5 years agoPost 38
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splitboarder

^^^ Taken from another post you made DILBERTstien can you give me ONE economic policy Romney has put out? Just one? Whats his plans

oh wait
cut capital gains tax and hand out vouchers
Yes, getting Obama out of the White House will take a major step in the right direction.

Oh, BTW: sell your computer and help djinni to sell his.

90% of life is "showing up"

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08-31-2012 12:33 AM  5 years agoPost 39
StarFish435

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These asshats are actually downing Romneys policies when their own mesiahs policies have failed miserably.I cant believe what I am seeing.

Lets put it this way,Obama is way more likely to want to see this country fail than Romney.Its in his autobiography.I will be willing to bet that these clowns that are backing him have never even read Barry Soetero's book yet they worship him like a god.

Too Much Time on My Hands....

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08-31-2012 12:40 AM  5 years agoPost 40
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These asshats are actually downing Romneys policies when their own mesiahs policies have failed miserably.I cant believe what I am seeing.
Lets put it this way,Obama is way more likely to want to see this country fail than Romney.Its in his autobiography.I will be willing to bet that these clowns that are backing him have never even read Barry Soetero's book yet they worship him like a god.
Well, Romney has a proven track record of "WINNING" whereas Obama has a proven track record of corruption, lying, and cover up.

Gee, I'm not having a tough time making my mind up.

I guess a person must not have functioning brain cells to consider voting for Obama.

90% of life is "showing up"

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