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08-30-2012 05:25 PM  5 years agoPost 1
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Debunking a few facts from last night
And he also makes some misleading or unfair assertions: That was the positive part of his speech last night. The negative came from the facts and fairness of some of his assertions. Perhaps the most egregious was his hit on Obama over Simpson-Bowles. “He created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing.” But here’s the thing: Ryan served on that same debt commission, and voted AGAINST it. Had Ryan voted for it (and convinced his fellow House members on the commission to do the same), Simpson-Bowles would have become law. Ryan also knocked Obama for the S&P downgrade, not mentioning the role that House Republicans like him played in that debt-ceiling debate. He also again attacked the president over those $716 billion in cuts/savings to Medicare -- the same $716 billion in cuts/savings that Ryan includes his budget. And he argued that Obama was unable to keep a GM plant open in Ryan’s hometown of Janesville, WI, when that plant closed before Obama became president. Out of all of the assertions, the only one the Romney-Ryan camp is pushing back on today is the GM plant, saying it was put on “standby” -- not shut down -- during the Bush administration.

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08-30-2012 05:27 PM  5 years agoPost 2
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splitboarder

Sell your computer

90% of life is "showing up"

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08-30-2012 05:43 PM  5 years agoPost 3
Dennis (RIP)

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He should give it to the lazy.

They like all that free sh#t you know.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-30-2012 07:19 PM  5 years agoPost 4
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splitboarder

Sell your computer
Now THAt was a stinging, well inform Highly educated resopnse. Did you get your 6th grade diploma in Texas or Mississippi?

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08-30-2012 07:20 PM  5 years agoPost 5
Dennis (RIP)

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Ryans Lies
Yeah but.

He's a lot better at it than the Obummer.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-30-2012 07:33 PM  5 years agoPost 6
splitboarder

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He's a lot better at it than the Obummer.
Yeah, I cant wait to watch my medicare I have been paying into dissapear. Also, this is the same clown who I can hold responsible for my 401K loosing several thousand dollars over a few days time because he wouldnt increase the debt ceiling.....or at least held out untill our credit rating fell, then he signed?

Great Plan

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08-30-2012 07:36 PM  5 years agoPost 7
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Yeah, I cant wait to watch my medicare I have been paying into dissapear. Also, this is the same clown who I can personnaly hold responsibly for my 401K loosing several thousand dollars over a few days time because he wouldnt increase the debt cieling.....or at least held out untill our credit rating fell, then he signed?
You think under Barry there will be anything left? jeeesus

Barry didnt have a clue how to bring people together to get things accomplished and he still doesnt.Time to get someone in office that can do something.
The legislative branch hasn't passed a budget in over 1,000 days?Great job Barry.

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08-30-2012 07:38 PM  5 years agoPost 8
Dennis (RIP)

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Also, this is the same clown who I can hold responsible for my 401K loosing several thousand dollars over a few days time because he wouldnt increase the debt ceiling.....or at least held out untill our credit rating fell, then he signed?
You hold Ryan responsible for that when you pals the Obummer, Palosi, Reid spent 870 billion of BORROWED money on a so called stimulus that made no difference in the economy at all and spent the nation an additional $5 trillion in debt in just 3 1/2 years and signed into law Obummercare which will end up being the single largest tax increase in human history ????

Man, I would say you are lookin in the wrong direction.

Keep drinkin that kool aid. Maybe you'll choke on it.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-30-2012 07:41 PM  5 years agoPost 9
splitboarder

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The legislative branch hasn't passed a budget in over 1,000 days?Great job Barry.
You must have the same edjumacation as Dilbertstien

The legislative branch of the U. S. goverment is the congress and senate. Obama is the PRESIDENT and thats the EXECUTIVE branch. The Executive branch does not vote on budgets.

What were you doing during Goverment class hayseed?

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08-30-2012 07:44 PM  5 years agoPost 10
Dennis (RIP)

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The legislative branch of the U. S. goverment is the congress and senate. Obama is the PRESIDENT and thats the EXECUTIVE branch. The Executive branch does not vote on budgets.

What were you doing during Goverment class hayseed?
By federal law, its the responsibility of the SENATE to pass a budget each and every physical year.

Then, its passed onto the house for potential revision and voting.

Once approved in the house, its sent onto the prez for his approval and signature. You are right on one thing. The prez does not vote on the budget. He simply signs it or returns it to the legislative branch for revision or rejection.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-30-2012 07:44 PM  5 years agoPost 11
StarFish435

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The president is the one who is supposed to inspire working together and getting things done.He is,after all the CEO of the entire company.If this would have been bush in office you would have been blaming him and rightfully so.
This clown hasnt done anything except campaign for the last year and worked on Obamacare for the first three while wasting billions.

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08-30-2012 08:16 PM  5 years agoPost 12
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By federal law, its the responsibility of the SENATE to pass a budget each and every physical year.
See above dip****

The Senate is part of the Legislative branch
The president is the one who is supposed to inspire working together and getting things done.He is,after all the CEO of the entire company.If this would have been bush in office you would have been blaming him and rightfully so
The only two things I blame Bush for

#1 -The useless Iraq war. 4000 dead American soilders, lied directly to the american public via television. Looked me right in the eye and said "we know iraq has weapons of mass destruction" - still havent seen any

#2- not doing SOMETHING, ANYTHING about the sinking economy in the last two years of his term

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08-30-2012 08:19 PM  5 years agoPost 13
Dennis (RIP)

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The Senate is part of the Legislative branch
You wouldn't kid me, would ya ?

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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08-30-2012 08:21 PM  5 years agoPost 14
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Paul Ryan Lied About Janesville GM Plant

Paul Ryan's speech at the Republican National Convention was breathtakingly dishonest, even by the extremely loose standards of honesty practiced by our politicians. The Wisconsin Republican Congressman, hailed as a "straight shooter", lied about the closing of the GM Plant in Janesville Wis.

The GM plant closed in late 2008 while George Bush was president. President Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, so he was in no position to do anything to save a plant whose closure was announced in June of 2008.

For over a decade GM postured about closing the Janesville plant. That's all people who liked in Illinois and Wisconsin heard for years on televised news and in the newspapers was that GM had slated the Janesville plant for closing.
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08-30-2012 08:26 PM  5 years agoPost 15
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The GM plant closed in late 2008 while George Bush was president. President Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, so he was in no position to do anything to save a plant whose closure was announced in June of 2008.
so why did Barry say what he said then?oh yeah he had no clue.

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08-30-2012 08:28 PM  5 years agoPost 16
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A budget cant pass with the house and the senate is divided on every front. The house sweare to not participate in any budget that the senate will drafted, it being 2 year we have'nt hadd a real budget
because of political rank on files wanted them to be infring'}
The republican wanted their idea to be implemented at all time.
Ryan paul is the main obtacle to the senate VS of any budget they
drafted Now they are going to shut down our government again
trying to protect the whealthy from paying single dime more in tax
to support a healthy budget.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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08-30-2012 08:32 PM  5 years agoPost 17
StarFish435

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A budget cant pass with the house and the senate is divided on every front. The house sweare to not participate in any budget that the senate will drafted, it being 2 year we have'nt hadd a real budget
The king swore he would bring the parties together.....others have why couldnt the half brown man get it done?
what he did manage to do was get a shellacking in 2010 and made it impossible to get anything done....oh wait he had the house and the senate for nearly 2 years,,, what the F?

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08-30-2012 08:34 PM  5 years agoPost 18
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Yeah, I cant wait to watch my medicare I have been paying into dissapear. Also, this is the same clown who I can hold responsible for my 401K loosing several thousand dollars over a few days time because he wouldnt increase the debt ceiling.....or at least held out untill our credit rating fell, then he signed? Great Plan
Hey Split...great post, bro!!!! I see you'r a Correct Thinker; like me, Djinni, and a few other CLEAR-HEADED persons on this forum...great to have the company!!

Ok, so about this uptight wingnut Mitt Romnut and his erstwhile sidekick, Lyin' Ryan...have you ever seen two bigger mean-spirited pinheads in your LIFE???

Here are the FACTS: Bush and Cheney screwed everything up. The nation came to its senses, and then elected one of the most Awesome Presidents E-V-E-R (who immediately won the Nobel Peace Prize). So against ALL repelican lies, distortions, and efforts to BLOCK everything, President Obama has made everything more fair. For THIS ALONE, he richly deserves our gratitude and our votes, so he can return next neay and finish the job on America.

Romnut??? Lyin' Ryan??? Gimme a break already!!!!

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08-30-2012 08:37 PM  5 years agoPost 19
StarFish435

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Romnut??? Lyin' Ryan??? Gimme a break already!!!!
Obummer? he had his break already,time to move aside and let someone with some experience in there.what experience did Obumbum have?

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08-30-2012 08:39 PM  5 years agoPost 20
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we know iraq has weapons of mass destruction" - still havent seen any
Just because they did not find any does not mean that at one time there were'nt any.....ever seen a million dollars in cash?...my guess is no, but that don't mean it does not exist.
not doing SOMETHING, ANYTHING about the sinking economy in the last two years of his term
So I'm sure you hold obama to the same for the first trree of his term...right.

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