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HelicopterMain Discussion › Engine hydrolocks or floods too soon.
08-28-2012 05:12 PM  5 years agoPost 21
bkervaski

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By the way the setup I'm recommending is always the "go to" reliable starter at our field. When everybody elses stuff breaks or won't do the job my starter just keeps on going. We call it the community starter, I should start charging a per-use fee, would never have to buy fuel again

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08-28-2012 05:14 PM  5 years agoPost 22
coolgabsi

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consiering the money its coming out to be more than a NEW align starter.. heehee... I looking for a used starter with budget constraints.. it sucks ..

I am gonna look around see if someone got one of a similar setup available.. please tell me if you see any one selling that setup.. Thanks for the input !

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08-28-2012 05:17 PM  5 years agoPost 23
bkervaski

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Maybe a little more, but works a lot better, easier on bearings and your gear, will last forever.

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08-28-2012 05:52 PM  5 years agoPost 24
ThumbBumper

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Before you go too crazy with starters, make sure that the hose and nipple that goes to your muffler is not clogged.

You could be pressurizing your tank when you fill it which would force the fuel into the carb. Once the engine is running there would be enough residual pressure to keep it running for quite a while.

Take a piece of stiff wire and pass it into the nipple on the muffler and try blowing through the fuel line to the tank...

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08-28-2012 06:15 PM  5 years agoPost 25
bart2546

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You definitely have to take corrective action as others have suggested but the end all starting set up to me is the Dynatron from Sullivan with the Sullivan wand and a 6S LiPo battery. That's what I went to from an Align starter. I always tell people it could start a Model T.

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08-28-2012 10:12 PM  5 years agoPost 26
ch-47c

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On my YS engines, after a flight I let pressure out, pinch my fuel line, and keep it there during fill and until I'm ready to start.

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08-28-2012 10:18 PM  5 years agoPost 27
McKrackin

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I'll let ya know what I think of the Align starter on 4S in a few days.

3S starts my OS91 fine but I puffed the battery from ignoring it for a few months and thought I'd try 4S this time.

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08-28-2012 10:35 PM  5 years agoPost 28
coolgabsi

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In a few day ill have ab align too...

Found one for in great condition for 50 bucks ... Couldn't pass up on that. I calculated the starter cost for the setup suggested here it was great as says by a lot of people but it cost 190-200 minimum.., I m penny pinching right now.. And align is just so dang simple. I'll update soon..

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08-28-2012 11:02 PM  5 years agoPost 29
McKrackin

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I been starting 90s with my Align starter for years.

I know some don't like them but they work.

Watch at YouTube

I literally never use the word literally right.

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08-30-2012 11:40 AM  5 years agoPost 30
Bouchah

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+1 on checking on the exhaust pressure line or even the exhaust tail pipe plug being installed.
It had been a while since I flew my nitro 90, I started cranking it over, it would not start. Then while cranking it over fuel starts spewing out of the air intake on the carb, I couldnt figure it out. I'm laying in bed that night and it dawned on me, THE PLUG! My muffler tailpipe has a rubber exhaust deflector with a rubber flap that plugs the pipe so it don't leak during storage, check for that.

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08-30-2012 11:57 AM  5 years agoPost 31
heli-cuzz

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Tilt the heli onto the exhaust side while turning the engine over to relieve hydrolock.

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08-30-2012 12:56 PM  5 years agoPost 32
coolgabsi

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Mckrakin GREAT VIDEO DEMO!!

Heli-cuzz --- I'll try it the next time it happens

Everyone else: I opened my exhausts yesterday on both my nitros. They are the curtis mp5.. I realized on plugging the intake port and blowing air through the pressure plug that it takes a little bit for the air to pass on this kind of exhaust . Both exhausts are not clogged and both exhausts gave the same response. I was unplugging the fuel line right after I fueled... Didn't give tank time to settle down and come to normal pressure while the muffler relieves the pressure on it slowly.

Checked for instructions, nothing... The insides looked good for the muffler. Checked the fuel lines... They were clog free and smooth. I guess I just have to let it sit for a couple seconds before I open ye carb line.

My align starter is in shipment now. Once I get it I will try this method.. And see if that helps me.

I have already opened another thread for asking how to tune. Have been fighting with tuning for last 6 months. Somehow I just can't get around someone who know how locally. Anywaz.. I'll update y'all!

You got any more inputs please feel free to share. Help out a Noobie.

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08-30-2012 02:49 PM  5 years agoPost 33
PilotPin

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Make sure you are not over filling the tank. If you over fill the tank the fuel can run out the pressure line into the muffler and into the cylinder = hydrolock. Ask me how I know.

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08-30-2012 04:55 PM  5 years agoPost 34
coolgabsi

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how do you know ? :P heehee Yes.. I dont fill it all the way up.. Vibe's loopback comes from up top, and I leave some air up top dont go all the way full.. I have put gaskets on the engine where muffler meets it, so lets see how this works..

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08-30-2012 07:01 PM  5 years agoPost 35
sonnyhad

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I use a 4 cell lipo on my starter and its a good setup, just fyi! What glo plug are you using?

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08-30-2012 07:02 PM  5 years agoPost 36
coolgabsi

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#8 ...

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08-30-2012 07:38 PM  5 years agoPost 37
BladeStrikes

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Before filling the tank make sure the fuel line is clamped right where it gos around the nipple on the carb and take the plug out of the exhaust deflector if you use one.If you leave the plug in the deflector and the line isn't clamped,you'll for sure flood the engine..

If you do them steps above and the engine floods once you unclamp the fuel line,the idle needle could be too rich or it was flooded before you even started putting fuel in..I seen a few engines flood even following the steps above because the idle needle was open too much and even without pressure in the tank,the fuel can still gravity feed the carb.

Or at the end of the day they put the pipe plug in and didn't clamp the line.If you do that and don't clamp the fuel line goin to the carb closed,pressure will build up and push fuel in the carb which will flood the engine..

+1 on what bkervaski said about the Align AKA "jackhammer" starter.With the issues you're having,you'll take a chance of bending the connecting rod or breaking something if it hydro locks down the road...TorqueMaster 90 with a 4S 1600mAh lipo will start that engine for weeks on one charge..I have one and used it on my OS 91HZ,OS 91HZ-R,YS 91SR,YS 91SR 3DS,YS 56SR and started a few YS 120SR's and one OS 105 with it without any issues..She spins the engines over pretty fast/smooth with no hammering and if the engine floods or something,the starter will stop before breaking something in the engine..

Also,
If the engine floods,don't try starting it anymore..Close the fuel line clamp,take the glow plug out then spin the engine over so it blows the fuel out of the engine..Once you clear the fuel out,put the glow plug back in and with the fuel line still clamped start the engine..Once it starts,unclamp the fuel line...

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08-31-2012 12:38 AM  5 years agoPost 38
McKrackin

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Before filling the tank make sure the fuel line is clamped right where it gos around the nipple on the carb and take the plug out of the exhaust deflector if you use one.If you leave the plug in the deflector and the line isn't clamped,you'll for sure flood the engine..
Eeewww....That's a biggie.
Forgot that lil tid bit.

Filling it with the butt plug in is the number one cause of hydro lock...Blows the tank up like a ballon and when you open the fuel line to the carb,it sprays fuel in the engine until it loses pressure....Plenty of pressure to completely fill the cylinder.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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