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08-27-2012 06:16 PM  5 years agoPost 1
TMoore

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...es-flight-boom/

I guess this is the logical extension of the FAA wanting their fingers in every piece of the airspace pie. Now if we want to fly drones we'll have to do it under the auspices of a commercial or ex-military pilots and this type of training program.

This ought to be good going forward.

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08-27-2012 06:30 PM  5 years agoPost 2
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I don't think they "want" their fingers in the recreational R/C "pie". However, as long as we have knuckleheads doing stupid stuff like flying an FPV aircraft above a cloud deck or up into approach corridors to large airports, their hand will be forced. . .
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08-27-2012 06:33 PM  5 years agoPost 3
TMoore

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I don't think they "want" their fingers in the recreational R/C "pie". However, as long as we have knuckleheads doing stupid stuff like flying an FPV aircraft above a cloud deck or up into approach corridors to large airports, their hand will be forced. . .
While that may be true, they want in our pie because this is where the money is. They will figure out how to tax everything that makes up the hobby because they can and we don't have a lobbying effort the size of the NRA to stop them. For AP I don't need to be higher than 400 feet anyway. A lot of shots are just fine at 100'.

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08-27-2012 06:47 PM  5 years agoPost 4
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I think we need to clearly separate commercial and hobby.

I agree that the FPV guys are what is going to have the FAA crawling up our butts.

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08-27-2012 06:51 PM  5 years agoPost 5
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BarracudaHockey
I think we need to clearly separate commercial and hobby.
I agree that the FPV guys are what is going to have the FAA crawling up our butts.
+1...

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08-27-2012 06:56 PM  5 years agoPost 6
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While that may be true, they want in our pie because this is where the money is.
This is where the money is?
As opposed to commercial airlines and the 100's of 1000's of full scale aircraft?

There are probably as many full scale as RC....I don't see any money involved that would offset the pain in the a$$ of regulating toys.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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08-27-2012 07:00 PM  5 years agoPost 7
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Drones are now available only to military and law enforcement agencies, but the Federal Aviation Administration is gearing up to begin granting personal and commercial licenses in 2015.

Read more: Drone U. rides flight boom - Washington Times
That is from the link posted in the OP.

It obviously shows that RC helis are NOT considered drones and not involved in the debate.

It says that drones are ONLY available to military and law enforcement...Read between the lines.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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08-27-2012 07:01 PM  5 years agoPost 8
TMoore

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think we need to clearly separate commercial and hobby.
I agree that the FPV guys are what is going to have the FAA crawling up our butts.
How will we do that? Most of the AP and FPV stuff is flown with our gear, our motors, our ESC's our FBL units. Most of the stuff will be hobby avionics all the way.

Unless someone with a commercial ticket is thoroughly schooled in RC, the drone school is nothing more than welfare for the teachers/university and taxes for those of us that want to dabble in a little AP for side money.

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08-27-2012 07:04 PM  5 years agoPost 9
TMoore

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It obviously shows that RC helis are NOT considered drones and not involved in the debate.
It says that drones are ONLY available to military and law enforcement...Read between the lines.
Merriam Webster defines drones as: "an unmanned aircraft or ship guided by remote control"

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08-27-2012 07:06 PM  5 years agoPost 10
McKrackin

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Merriam Webster defines drones as: "an unmanned aircraft or ship guided by remote control"
Sure does but since drones are ONLY available to military...That means none of us here has anything that qualifies in the eyes of the government.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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08-27-2012 07:13 PM  5 years agoPost 11
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That means none of us here has anything that qualifies in the eyes of the government.
You trust government way too much!

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08-27-2012 07:25 PM  5 years agoPost 12
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I don't trust the government at all.
I am only interpreting the language.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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08-27-2012 07:26 PM  5 years agoPost 13
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Guys, That article is just an advertising piece for some guy and his "school".

Keep your panties on.

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08-27-2012 07:27 PM  5 years agoPost 14
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Sure does but since drones are ONLY available to military...That means none of us here has anything that qualifies in the eyes of the government.
If only the military has drones why do they need private universities and private teachers to teach civilians to operate them? Why isn't it being done in secret? Where will the student trainer drones come from? Will they come from actual primes or from second tier vendors or will they be CIA surplus?

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08-27-2012 07:28 PM  5 years agoPost 15
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If only the military has drones why do they need private universities and private teachers to teach civilians to operate them?
Its called free market economics. They are lining up for a piece of the pie.

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08-27-2012 07:30 PM  5 years agoPost 16
TMoore

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Its called free market economics. They are lining up for a piece of the pie.
It's a pie that wouldn't exist if it weren't for modelers.

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08-27-2012 07:32 PM  5 years agoPost 17
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If only the military has drones why do they need private universities and private teachers to teach civilians to operate them? Why isn't it being done in secret? Where will the student trainer drones come from? Will they come from actual primes or from second tier vendors or will they be CIA surplus?
Do you even TRY to read the stuff you post?

It says that ONLY military has drones but the FAA is gearing towards allowing civilian licensing.
AND it will require this school and training to get the license.

YOU posted it.
Now READ it.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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08-27-2012 07:37 PM  5 years agoPost 18
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It's a pie that wouldn't exist if it weren't for modelers
Still...A lot of people are betting that the future of aviation will be full of drone type aircraft filling the skies for all types of purposes. As such this article is simply pointing to the fact that company's are popping up, and are preparing to service this market.

As well as pointing to the fact that the government will HAVE to step up and put regulations in place.

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08-27-2012 07:40 PM  5 years agoPost 19
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If the FAA allows licensing to civilians and requires training...Everyone wants to be THE go to school for the training.

That's what the article is about.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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08-27-2012 07:40 PM  5 years agoPost 20
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An unregulated future drone market would be chaos. All types of yahoo's and weekend warrior's crashing into everything.

Regulations and licensing is only common sense.

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