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06-06-2012 05:59 AM  5 years agoPost 1
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Seems Canada's liberal government poured billions of dollars into the GM plant in Ontario in the form of loans.

But the VOLT has lost its charge and GM had to shut the plant down in Michigan for an extended period.

The election is coming up and Obama needs the union votes badly.

So, what does GM do? They shut down the plant in Ontario that makes the Chevy Impalas and Equinoxes and retool the VOLT plant to make those cars. There you go. Canadians can't vote in the US.

Canada can now pick up the unemployment for the 2000 people GM put out on the street.

But wait, there's more. Canada is crying "foul!" GM still owes them big money...but they ain't gonna get it, because Obama needs it for his campaign...suckers!

http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/06/04/...osing-2000-jobs

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06-06-2012 12:25 PM  5 years agoPost 2
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If they are supprised by this they are stupid!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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06-06-2012 01:38 PM  5 years agoPost 3
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nope !!! not suprised one bit...

with this,keystone and countless other issues Obumer created..
we can't wait for the next elections,he knows he's going down and trying to keep his head out of the water..doesn't care who he takes down to achieve this..ALL of you included..

you all know the saying ..

with friends like him !!! who needs enemies..

that's why Canada is looking elsewhere to import and export,and it's going great...as soon as canada gets a good % of that from other countries
Obummer can sink his own ship..

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06-06-2012 05:31 PM  5 years agoPost 4
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If they are supprised by this they are stupid!
They're not stupid, but they were sucker punched.

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06-06-2012 05:36 PM  5 years agoPost 5
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you all know the saying ..

with friends like him !!! who needs enemies..
He's insulting our oldest and closest allies as fast as he can.

Romney will have to do some mighty good fence mending to get things back on track.

We have real enemies from the Middle East and we need our allies more now ever.

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06-06-2012 05:49 PM  5 years agoPost 6
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He's insulting our oldest and closest allies as fast as he can.
What has Canada ever done for us?
with this,keystone and countless other issues Obumer created.
Why can't you make your own fuel from your nasty oil, why does it have to come to America. It would still be sent to China no matter where the pipeline goes through.

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06-07-2012 04:06 AM  5 years agoPost 7
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What has Canada ever done for us?
They kept the Japs from invading us from the north in WWII.

Plus they make Clearly Canadian ,my favorite soda. Of course I can't get it here in the sticks of central Texas.

So I suppose it's a moot point if I can't get it. There are plenteous of sodas here but they all taste like cactus whiz. Oh well, back to drinking jalapeno squeezings.

At any rate, Canada is a great country and Obama plans to make them our 58th state after he clears out the French language.

I plan to visit Canada and see I can introduce my right wing ideas up there. They seem like a receptive bunch.

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06-07-2012 02:09 PM  5 years agoPost 8
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[quote]What has Canada ever done for us?

well Canada has always been allies and always will..
i could go on and on but if you have time just read from the link and much more info out there..
they didn't agree on all the issues but doesn't change the fact that canada/USA are close friends..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada...tates_relations

and dilbert if would be sure the soda would get to you i would send you a case
hell if i remember,next time i cross over for a visit or to ship stuff out i will ship some from within to you

and as for the oil

if it wasn't for all the restrictions and agreements we could produce,keep and sell our oil/fuel at lower prices.

canada comes in 6th place with 3 483 000 (2010) bbd of production with a population of 34 820 500 that comes out to 0.1 bbd per head

U.S.A comes in 3rd place with 9 688 000 (2010) bbd of production with a population
of 313 686 000 that comes out to 0.03088 bbd per head

i know it's not this simple and so many factors prevent it from being simple..
the keystone would have benifited both sides greatly and created much needed jobs for a long time..

but what can we do about it,not much both sides have people who want it and some who don't.. obsama's decision was purely political to try and win votes for the coming election...

the ones on our side who don't want it say we should keep our oil for ourselfs,so canada can profit to a maximum...

again not as simple as we think..

the important thing is that Canada/U.S.A keep their good relations as always..

steff

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06-07-2012 02:29 PM  5 years agoPost 9
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I can't believe how many retards want to see all energy and jobs going to China! That is like trusting all nuclear energy to Russia!
The world would be better off if it were all used here where we have pollution controls and safety regulations.
I guess some are stupid enough to think that if pollution is created on the other side on the globe it won't bother us at all?

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06-07-2012 02:39 PM  5 years agoPost 10
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pump it here, refine it here and keep it here. I think the time is ripe for somebody with a spine to propose to do just that. Open books, etc. Tack on an agreed upon profit margin and pump from Federal land. If the government wasn't so f'd up, we could do it. But gas would end up being $20 a gallon. If we did it privately, it would create thousands of good jobs and you'd see gas at a buck a gallon again.
This prospect is doable, it just takes somebody with balls to propose it.

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06-07-2012 04:07 PM  5 years agoPost 11
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pump it here, refine it here and keep it here
That is what I say, but it will never happen.
I plan to visit Canada and see I can introduce my right wing ideas up there. They seem like a receptive bunch.
Yeah the love guns up there too!
the keystone would have benifited both sides greatly and created much needed jobs for a long time.
Maybe jobs in Canada but not here. Once the pipe was built using a good percentage of Canadian workforce what work would be left here in the state. To protect the line? Or maybe to help load it on to ships bound for China?

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06-07-2012 04:23 PM  5 years agoPost 12
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Maybe jobs in Canada but not here. Once the pipe was built using a good percentage of Canadian workforce what work would be left here in the state. To protect the line? Or maybe to help load it on to ships bound for China?
I would like to see us keep our own oil to bring prices down.

But, if we do export it, at least we would be bringing money back into the USA instead of sending it out.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-07-2012 04:37 PM  5 years agoPost 13
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job info !!! sorry for the long read

Calgary, Alberta - January 10, 2012 - TransCanada Corporation (TSX, NYSE: TRP) (TransCanada) released further details today that highlight the thousands of jobs Keystone XL would create for Americans.

The $7 billion oil pipeline is the largest infrastructure project on the books in the U.S. right now. It would create 20,000 jobs: 13,000 in construction, 7,000 in manufacturing.

Construction of the 1,600 mile pipeline is broken down into 17 U.S. pipeline spreads or segments, with 500 workers per spread - that's 8,500 jobs
Keystone XL also needs 30 pump stations worth tens of millions of dollars. Each station requires 100 workers - that's 3,000 jobs. Add another 600 jobs that would be needed for the six construction camps and tank construction at Cushing, Oklahoma
A project of such magnitude needs construction, management and inspection oversight - that would create 1,000 jobs, bringing the overall Keystone XL total to 13,000 direct, on-site jobs.

These are new, real U.S. jobs. Thirteen thousand Americans would be put to work constructing our Keystone XL project," said Russ Girling, TransCanada's president and chief executive officer. "Seven thousand more jobs would be created in the U.S. manufacturing sector, making the materials needed to build Keystone XL."

Keystone XL would require hundreds of millions of dollars worth of materials and related services for items such as the steel pipe, the thousands of fittings, hundreds of large valves, fabrication of piping assemblies and structural steel for supports, and thousands of other pieces of equipment used to build such things as transformers for pumping stations, meters to measure the amount of oil delivered, large electric motors for operating pumps and cabling and electrical equipment to connect our vast pipeline monitoring systems.

TransCanada alone has contracts with over 50 suppliers across the U.S.. Manufacturing locations for our equipment include: Texas, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Indiana, Georgia, Maryland, New York, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Ohio, Arkansas, Kansas, California and Pennsylvania.

Construction of Keystone XL is expected to create 7000 manufacturing jobs. Key support companies include: Welspun (pipe from Arkansas), Cameron (valves from Louisiana), Siemens (pumps, motors and related control equipment manufactured in Oregon, Ohio and Indiana) and dozens of other companies manufacturing everything from nuts and bolts to complex electrical control equipment.

The pipeline construction contractors must also procure hundreds of millions dollars worth of equipment and materials. Hundreds of jobs will be created through requirements for fuel, coating materials, welding supplies, concrete materials, geo-textile materials, pipeline weights, native seed materials for reclamation, cathodic protection materials, crushed rock, sediment barrier materials, valve and pigging assemblies, field trailer manufacturing, construction mats, power facility materials, aggregate manufacturing, road construction materials, water and waste facility manufacturing, fencing materials, communication infrastructure, bridge construction materials and many others.

As Keystone XL supports oil sands development, the impact on jobs in America becomes even more pronounced. The Canadian Energy Research Institute (CERI) predicts a $521 billion increase in the U.S. gross domestic product and the creation of 465,000 U.S. jobs. For every two oil sands jobs created in Canada, one job will be created in the U.S. Every State will benefit from this development.

At least 1000 American companies supply goods and services to Canadian oil sands and pipeline companies - Berg Steel Pipe in Houston, Siemens Energy from California and the Michelin plant in Greenville, South Carolina are just three examples.

The $6 billion Keystone pipeline that has safely delivered over 160 million barrels of oil to the U.S. Midwest since the summer of 2010 created 9,000 construction jobs and thousands more manufacturing jobs.

Keystone XL has the capacity to deliver 830,000 barrels of oil per day to U.S. refineries in Cushing, Oklahoma and the Gulf of Mexico. Up to 25 per cent of that capacity has been provided for the delivery of U.S. domestic oil from the Bakken fields in Montana and North Dakota and oil from Cushing. Long-term, binding contracts for more than 150,000 barrels per day from the Bakken fields and Cushing have already been signed. This supports the desire in the United States to ultimately achieve domestic energy security.

"The fundamental issue here is that the U.S. imports 10 million barrels of oil each day - forecasts predict that will not change for decades. So the question is where will that oil come from? Will it come from U.S. and Canadian sources or will it continue to be higher priced conflict oil from the Middle East and Venezuela - regions that do not share American values," concluded Girling

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06-07-2012 07:44 PM  5 years agoPost 14
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Siemens (pumps, motors and related control equipment manufactured in Oregon, Ohio and Indiana) and dozens of other companies manufacturing everything from nuts and bolts to complex electrical control equipment.
That is the business I am working in (complex electrical control equipment.) and Siemens is one of our biggest customers so I guarantee that we would have to expand and hire more people if this went through not to mention that we could keep some of our energy money in North America instead of shipping it to dictators over seas.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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06-07-2012 09:08 PM  5 years agoPost 15
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job info !!! sorry for the long read
Calgary, Alberta - January 10, 2012 - TransCanada Corporation (TSX, NYSE: TRP) (TransCanada) released further details today that highlight the thousands of jobs Keystone XL would create for Americans.
The $7 billion oil pipeline is the largest infrastructure project on the books in the U.S. right now. It would create 20,000 jobs: 13,000 in construction, 7,000 in manufacturing.
This number has been disputed by not only those in America but by other Canadians.

Either way we will never know the truth until it has been built which will probably have to wait until Mitt wins, if he wins.

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06-07-2012 10:30 PM  5 years agoPost 16
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ah, you're finally getting it Psycho. We turned esco, you're next.....

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06-07-2012 11:37 PM  5 years agoPost 17
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ah, you're finally getting it Psycho. We turned esco, you're next.....
If your that good then teach him how to spell.

As I have stated many times, I am not voting for anyone that is currently in office. If that is what you mean by your statement.

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06-07-2012 11:42 PM  5 years agoPost 18
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oh, I'm anti-incumbent this election for sure.
Harvard language prof's couldn't fix esco's English.

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06-08-2012 12:27 AM  5 years agoPost 19
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well Canada has always been allies and always will..
i could go on and on but if you have time just read from the link and much more info out there..
they didn't agree on all the issues but doesn't change the fact that canada/USA are close friends..
You got that right. I love Canada and we want the Canadian oil.

Once we get that idiot Obama run out of DC, we can get back to business.

Heck we don't have to agree on all the issues. My wife and I don't agree on everything, and as long as I do things her way we have happy days. Which reminds of the days I did things my way...not so good. My wife's a retired teacher and she still thinks I'm one of her students. Gotta go, she's giving me a test in the morning.

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06-08-2012 01:37 AM  5 years agoPost 20
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As I have stated many times, I am not voting for anyone that is currently in office. If that is what you mean by your statement.
On rare occasions I sometime get the distance thoughts that you may not be totally 100% in agreement with my right wing wacko ideas.

But I quickly dismiss those thoughts.

At any rate, I enjoy your posts because they are generally thought provoking to me. A good example is your above post.

We're allowed to vote straight politicial tickets. Wouldn't it be neat if we were allowed to vote for:

1) only incumbents
2) only challengers (in case of more than one challenger, voter will have to specify which one).
3) straight GOP
4) straight Dem
5) and of course, the usual smorgasbord of political hacks.

The professional GOP or Dem might not be as secure as he once was.

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