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HelicopterHIROBOOther › HIrobo at the Nuremberg Toy Fair 2012
02-01-2012 05:05 PM  6 years agoPost 1
2kwik2c

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Hirobo is once again showcasing new products at this year's Nuremberg Toy Fair. There's a few interesting product that is in development and is better seen in pictures before explaining.

Here's the link to the site:

http://www.heliplane.net/2012/02/toy-fair-2012-hirobo/

Photos courtesy Heliplane.net

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02-01-2012 07:42 PM  6 years agoPost 2
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thanks for sharing the pictures

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02-01-2012 11:51 PM  6 years agoPost 3
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It looks like the 90 would only take a conversion kit if you already had a D3 Turbulence. You can see that Hirobo have drastically reduced parts count and gone for the maximum weight savings possible.

What they need to do, is produce an inexpensive, simple flybarless head to get the machine into an everyday pilot's hands.

They could have a winner - but they need to move quickly.

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02-02-2012 12:17 AM  6 years agoPost 4
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inexpensive and quick aren't words that hirobo understand

proper testing and not sending products out until right and quality they do understand

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02-02-2012 12:41 AM  6 years agoPost 5
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Though I know what Chris feels and where he's coming from, I do agree with payne1967. Hirobo will take their time to release a conversion or new kit. They want it refined.

As a matter of fact I was a bit surprise that Hirobo showcased a re-designed, prototype D3 on a big event. They're usually secretive with new projects and what not. When the SSZ-IV was being developed it was hard to find a photo or even a slight glimpse of it. The same issue with the Turbulence D3 aside from the CAD drawings only.

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02-02-2012 04:15 AM  6 years agoPost 6
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The modified D3 appears to be the one Sawamura and a Japan hobby shop were working on. Interesting to see it included as part of the Hirobo stand as from what I have heard they haven't had any direct part in it as yet. But that could have changed.

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02-02-2012 05:22 AM  6 years agoPost 7
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From what I read from the website Heliplane.net, Hirobo is still thinking if whether or not this prototype will go in production or not. It will be determined after the Toy Fair event. My guess is Hirobo is checking to see people's reaction to the prototype. If they get a positive response then they might consider, but if not then they'll scratch the whole idea. I'd say Hirobo should follow suit with JR and create an electric conversion kit for the D3 just like the way JR has an e-power conversion for their Airskipper 90 and Vibe SG. Or better yet make a new D3 kit that is entirely electric. If they want to stay in this market, they need to be aggressive and make drastic changes to their line up. Then again we're talking Hirobo here so I don't think changes will happen soon.

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02-02-2012 10:42 AM  6 years agoPost 8
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Definitely looks like that same one from the video.

Great to see they are working on something but hopefully they will simplify those frames a lot. Seems to be a lot of long supporting carbon cross members in those frames, especially at the back near the boom. Most of the new 90's are a lot more compact/simple now with the trend towards the wider spaced frames again.

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02-02-2012 05:16 PM  6 years agoPost 9
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Indeed - it is interesting that Hirobo displayed this model given their typical level of secrecy. Hard to say exactly what they have in mind. I think we'd all agree that any time Hirobo shows something we get excited about it. True, moving quickly isn't in their vocabulary and this has caused them to lag some dynamic changes in the market - at least here in the US and UK (electric, flybarless).

I do expect to pay more for Hirobo - that is the way it's always been since I started a long time ago. But I've always gotten value for money too and never thought that money was wasted. But, what Hirobo need to tackle now isn't the cost specifically (Yen/Dollar/Pound/Euro is hurting), it's market need (well desire as we don't need any of this stuff).

In my opinion (FWIW), flybarless and electric are huge market changes. The refinement of 3D whether smack or big sky has also demanded more rigid, lighter and simpler airframes. This requires engineering and development - something that Hirobo excels at, be it at a longer time scale than other manufacturers.

Generally speaking, this trend is around 3 years in the making and was very evident at IRCHA and in fun fly events around the US this year. Next year, the market will have driven even further into these areas though the big bore nitros may invigorate that segment of 700 class models.

There may be some further refinement of the model on display - some simplification (simple isn't so easy) for production. And with a little effort, a less expensive flybarless head could be readily developed to match the model. Something on the order of a scaled up SDX head with the necessary changes to make it natively flybarless.

Ultimately, how much time will it take Hirobo to organize and respond? A while I'm sure - but I'm urging them along with mental telepathy to get with the program. I'm a customer - give me something new, and different, to buy. And it wouldn't hurt to really watch the cost

Chris Berardi
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02-02-2012 09:53 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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Well put Chris

I'm hoping they respond to what the market is after too. At least the wheel's appear to be turning again at the moment for something new. Look at thunder tiger, they have re-invented themselves at the moment, the new Raptor 90 G4 looks to meet the market at the moment. Hirobo can definately lift the bar here if they want too.

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