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12-18-2011 04:59 PM  5 years agoPost 1
Eury

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Lots of sponsorship changes lately. I have an honest question, why would anyone care? It doesnt matter to me in any way if Bert is flying Outrage, or Bobby is now flying Airhogs. They have no impact on me whatsoever.

Obviously I am in the minority based on the large number of threads about people switching around. So I have to ask, why would anyone care who these guys get a paycheck from?

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12-18-2011 05:57 PM  5 years agoPost 2
koppter

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you are not alone...

as an angels fan, i took notice when pujols was signed, and it did generate a little discussion in the lunch room among us baseball guys and gals. but toy helicopters...not so much. I could care less who is flying what for whom.

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12-18-2011 06:02 PM  5 years agoPost 3
hornet dave

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I dont care either. Berts flights will look the same whether he is flying a clone or a goblin. The same goes for everyone else. Heck, you cant even judge that a product holds up well because pilot X flies it, as you absolutely will not hear from a team pilot that their product sucks in any way.

Sponsorships are in place for marketing reasons only. That means the sponsored guys are selling helis. Will i buy a miniature air heli because Bobby was flying them? Nope. Will I buy one now that Bobby is not flying for them? Nope.

I watch the videos of the sponsored guys occasionally to see how they are progressing as pilots. But thats about it, i couldnt care what brand they fly as just about any heli can be made to do just about anything in the right hands.

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12-18-2011 06:03 PM  5 years agoPost 4
Ronald Thomas

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I think a lot of people put too much stock in what people think is a good heli or manufacturer based solely on who is flying for them. Now that their favorite pilot switched to a different company, they have to reevaluate their purchase....so they get upset.
Personally it took me a while to realize ALL helis have issues and sure some are better than others in some areas, they are all pretty much capable these days.
You ever notice how a pro pilot's opinion changes about certain products when they are representing them? It is sickening sometimes to see the hypocrisy but it is there never the less............Ron

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12-18-2011 06:10 PM  5 years agoPost 5
wjvail

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I neither know or care who flies what. Really.

In fact, I find the rep programs an annoyance and added expense to products I want to purchase. Since I'm in the market for an OS 1.05 and Futaba 18MZ, I would be happy if these companies dropped their reps and lowered the cost to me.

I've been hobbying since before the advent of the rep programs as they exist today and my personal opinion is that it hasn't helped the general modeling public. Just the opposite.

Again these are my personal opinions and you're free to disagree.

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12-18-2011 06:14 PM  5 years agoPost 6
johnbs8

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all the major heli companys have a secret society that determines who flys where and what. Then every so often the panel meets and they discuss the changes they are gonna make and pilots are changed around as per the society vote. im not at liberty to say anymore as im saying to much already.

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12-18-2011 06:21 PM  5 years agoPost 7
mcfast

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I dont care either !

P.S. sorry for the spelling or the grammar I am dyslexic!

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12-18-2011 06:25 PM  5 years agoPost 8
Stephen Born

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It might be a sense of insecurity.

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12-18-2011 06:42 PM  5 years agoPost 9
McKrackin

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They're all different versions of the same thing and I would fly anything I was paid to fly and sing its accolades to the heavens until someone offered me a better deal to fly something else.

These guys sales pitch has no impact on me.
I look at practical matters like price and availability. Nothing else.

I'm genuinely happy for all the guys making money from a hobby of playing with toys and very envious but their paid opinions don't carry much weight.

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12-18-2011 06:43 PM  5 years agoPost 10
Riq

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Id like to think pros endorse products because they believe in the product, but in this nitch hobby its probably best to just get yo money.

....or conversely they didnt believe in the product they were endorsing and left.

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12-18-2011 06:47 PM  5 years agoPost 11
Kevin Dalrymple

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I dont care either !
+ 12 or how many others said they don't care. I dont by a heli because who is flying it.

The funny thing is the companies should (if they don't all ready) pay attention to what and how the pro pilot sets up there heli and make adjustments to there kits and or upgrades from there. Wich is why companies should hire pro pilots like Bert, Bobby, Todd Bennet, and many more. Pro polits want and will work a model and its parts to get the heli to fly the way they want it to.

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12-18-2011 07:23 PM  5 years agoPost 12
Peter Wales

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You guys are missing the point. Its not the name flying the heli that sells it, its how well he flies it. The manufacturer wants his heli presented in the best possible light and picks the pilot who he thinks will do the job best.

We offer sponsorship deals to the pilots who we think will make our helis look good and easy to fly, not the same requirements for scale as 3D, but we know what we want our helis to be seen doing and we pick the guys who we think will do it best, and we dont care how famous they are right now

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12-18-2011 07:34 PM  5 years agoPost 13
Steff Giguere

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Don't care who flies for what company. Only a lot of people judge a heli on the way it could be beat and still stand up at the end of a flight.
The other thing is set-up and build help. For example Matt Botos from Synergy didn't only find exceptional fliers, I know because I'm not one of them, but he also choose meticulous builders so they can help Synergy customers with their build and set-up.

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12-18-2011 07:38 PM  5 years agoPost 14
RotorTech321

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I build and fly what I like. I would never buy something just because someone else has decided to endorse it.

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12-18-2011 08:13 PM  5 years agoPost 15
fenderstrat

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In fact, I find the rep programs an annoyance and added expense to products I want to purchase. Since I'm in the market for an OS 1.05 and Futaba 18MZ, I would be happy if these companies dropped their reps and lowered the cost to me.
there is a difference between a rep and a sponsored pilot.myself and all reps i know are not paid and we PAY for kits and parts,we just get a discount,so i'm not sure how that adds to the price of any product.

as for the sponsored pilots.How would you suggest products are tested?
Companies need to be able to have the products flown and tested and flown HARD.They also need to be able to do the testing get immediate input and be able to make changes.This requires a good pilot who is available all the time.They cant send a prototype to a pilot across the county, to a guy with a 9-5 and wait till next weekend for him to fly it then either send a heli back or send parts back to him,i hope I am being clear in what i am trying to convey.
I am not taking offense to your comments as we all have our opinions,I just found them curious.

As far as basing a purchase on who flys what I dont think that really has much of an impact for most people.But the factory pilots play a HUGE part in the development of helis.All helis will have issues,but wouldn't you rather have most issues worked out before they get to market?

The factory pilots also help to promote the helis at events.I think most people prefer seeing a heli in person and seeing it flown,as opposed to just seeing pictures and vids.I dont think a pilots name means as much when considering a purchase as actually being able to see the design and quality of a heli first hand

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12-18-2011 08:27 PM  5 years agoPost 16
heli-cuzz

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No concern here who flies what or who is better than who.

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12-18-2011 08:46 PM  5 years agoPost 17
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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What I don't like is when a pilot sponsored by one company says, "This is the best helicopter ever" and then next year when they are flying for another company says, "This is the best helicopter ever".

So which is it?

You see the same thing in the professional sports world all of the time, and I feel it completely demeans the product.

How fast do you think Tiger Woods would stop wearing Tag Heuer watches if Rolex were to offer him a better deal? So that just makes his "celebrity endorsement" completely worthless in my opinion.

Why can't professionals be more like Jimmy Hendrix? Remember how Hendrix played an old Fender Stratocaster? It's not like he started out playing Gibson guitars, and then when he became famous and Fender offered him a deal, he started playing the Stratocaster. No, he decided early on in his career what product he BELIEVED IN, and he played it. Then when he became famous that company began to sponsor him.

Pilots of all levels, whether they are sponsored or not, should only fly what they BELIEVE IN. Otherwise, they are just posers.

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12-18-2011 09:21 PM  5 years agoPost 18
Jeff polisena

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Same reason people have to tevo Kardashians.
When your at a level of flying as most sponsored pilots you can fly anything and promote it .

Nobody does anything for free !! If you make 10k to fly Align and E Flight pays you 20k to fly for them you do the math

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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12-18-2011 09:26 PM  5 years agoPost 19
fenderstrat

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I actually know a thing or 2 about strats and Hendrix..LOL

actually,from all I have read and researched,Fender never actually endorsed Hendrix.(actual fact is hard to determine as there is so much myth and speculation surrounding JIMI)he PAID for all his guitars,there are stories(with pics of invoices and receipts)where Hendrix would go into Mannys music in new York and buy new strats by the dozens.He loved to give them as gifs after he played them a few times.

My point is this.Hendrix was offered guitars by the scores for free yet he PAID for his strats because thats what he wanted..thats integrity.

But then again its not fair to compare anyone to Hendrix,he was one of a kind and there will never be anyone like him again

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12-18-2011 09:28 PM  5 years agoPost 20
Bouchah

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I dont care either as to who flies what.

What if they took say the top 10 pilots from an event like XFC, made a committee of them for the year. Any manufacturer that puts out a kit in that year brings the committee to the debut of the bird, they all fly the new bird and write a review of it without having the bias of being paid by the manufacturer scewing their opinion. This committee could hold alot of clout being such an honest opinion of the top pilots in the world. The manufacturers should be willing to participate knowing a good review from such a prestigious group could really help their sales. If a manufacturer dont participate, it could be an admission of an inferior product, could also be bad to not have the approval of suggested committee.

This just an idea, could be changed in many different ways, but I think that is one way that I would put any weight in what a sponsored pilot has to say about their sponsors product.

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