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HelicopterAerobatic FAI F3C F3N Contest › Raptor G4 for FAI
12-17-2011 02:23 PM  5 years agoPost 1
GM1

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I got a good buy on a Raptor G4 E720 electric model and decided to test it for F3C. The model is designed by Taya-san, the designer of the original Kyosho Concept 30.
When I was at the World Champs in Italy last summer, Wayne Mann was flying an E720 and was very complementary of it. On his recommendation I did make a couple of changes to the kit before I ever flew it. I ordered the softer dampers from the original Raptor 90 and a rear TR servo mount. Assembly was straightforward. I did have to create a horizontal fin as the one in the kit is definitely a 3D fin. I had a Hirobo fin that was the correct size so I mounted it. I selected the model with flybar as FBL is currently not legal in F3C but the flybar model is easily converted if that changes.
The model came with a very nice pre-painted canopy, but it was RED and at 200yds away it turned black and was really hard to see. I made two trim Monokote neon yellow flashes and put them on the black part of the canopy and that helped visibility a great deal. I since have acquired the TT yellow one and it is MUCH easier to see. Battery tray system is the best way to install batteries that I have seen,
I am using an Xera 4030 470kV motor with the stock 10.09 gear ratio and a Castle Creations 120 ICE2. There are three pinions available, 11, 12, and 13 so there are multiple ratios available. The 10.09 is VERY conservative and draws no more than 80 amps during a whole flight. I also put a ball with a 3mm stud on it in the back of the swashplate to replace the one that comes with it that has a 2mm stud. I had only about 25 flights on the model, when I took it to Tampa FL for the TCRC contest and was able to sneak out with a hard fought victory.
Gary Wright was there also and had the flybarless version of the same model and it flew amazingly well. I got a bunch of info about setting a FBL model with the CGY750 so I am looking forward to building a FBL model. Gary was 3Ding the model at 1600 rpm and it was SO quiet but still had gorilla power and did everything he asked of it, which is a lot and flies for over 10 minutes.
Summary, this is a very nice model and it can be a good 3D model or a very trimmable F3C model. If you get a chance, take a serious look at it.

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12-17-2011 07:22 PM  5 years agoPost 2
Four Stroker

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Old men need yellow canopies ! All yellow is good.

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12-18-2011 03:04 PM  5 years agoPost 3
jodyb

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Me send fusearoge to you Gordie san for G4

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12-18-2011 04:43 PM  5 years agoPost 4
nighttrain

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Wow Gordie, Nice write up! Thanks!

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12-20-2011 05:12 PM  5 years agoPost 5
gwright

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picture fusearoge peese!!!!

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12-20-2011 10:51 PM  5 years agoPost 6
jodyb

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Mr. Wright, Fusearoge molds almost compete product as good of Black Shark please patience we happy to compliment you wit Dragon Fire Fusearoge

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12-21-2011 12:26 PM  5 years agoPost 7
gwright

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Is this fuselage simply a copy of the blackshark? If so, then nevermind.

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12-22-2011 05:50 PM  5 years agoPost 8
synodontis

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you can get Blackshark copies from SAB.

that's not really the problem with these fuses, the real problem for the average user is how to paint them and, most importantly, drilling the holes and supporting hardware for placement of mechanics.

I cannot fit a Black Shark fuse myself, I would ruin it. I can do a Staysee and a Super Gracy because they are easy to fit, but a Black Shark - no.

You could all do us a favour and follow what Funtech does by cutting the important holes and providing ALL attachment hardware for easy assembly.

I hope when Align start producing Black Sharks they note the comments above.

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12-22-2011 11:15 PM  5 years agoPost 9
jodyb

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NO! copy Black Shark, original Dragon Fire design, Dragon Fire fusearoge quality fiberglass as of Black Products thank you

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12-23-2011 02:38 AM  5 years agoPost 10
GM1

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HUH?

I fitted two Blacksharks, a 3 and a 3T, onto Hirobo models with absolutely no problem. Had no idea I was that good....... :-)

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12-23-2011 05:59 AM  5 years agoPost 11
navyraptor

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GM1 where did you get the ball with a 3mm stud for the rear swash ball, i broke the 2mm stock one, i may try to drill and tap it.

Raptor G4N, Raptor E720, Raptor E700, Raptor 90SE, X50F, X50E, 14sg

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12-23-2011 06:16 AM  5 years agoPost 12
Wayne Mann

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The 6mm balls come from OFNA Racing. Their part number is OFN30403

Wayne Mann

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12-23-2011 10:48 AM  5 years agoPost 13
synodontis

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I fitted two Blacksharks, a 3 and a 3T, onto Hirobo models with absolutely no problem. Had no idea I was that good....... :-)
I was referring to the "raw" blackshark that hasn't been painted or any of the placement holes drilled. I don't know what it's like with the T type, but the normal 3 would be a pain for me to do and I would probably ruin it, which is why I bought someone else's who already had it painted and cut.

if I remember corrected you bought one of yours already painted and drilled too.

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12-23-2011 10:53 AM  5 years agoPost 14
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Yup

I bought one that was pre-painted and fitted it to my EX-2 electric conversion. The 3T I bought raw, painted and fitted it to nitro Evo mechanics. By the way, both are for sale now as are the mechanics that fit them. They are gorgeous in the air.
Gordie

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12-30-2011 07:13 PM  5 years agoPost 15
ymuraki

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TR servo mount

Hey Gordie,
What the part number for TR servo mount?
I know it's for one of Century heli's,but not sure which one.

I put G-Force tail pitch control. It's working good and looks good.
Post pics later.

Thanks.

Futaba/Hobbico
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Kontronik

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12-31-2011 01:13 AM  5 years agoPost 16
ymuraki

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GForce Tail pitch control

Here is tail pitch control designed for T700, but with minor mods, I was able to use on G4.

Futaba/Hobbico
Morgan Fuel
Peak Aircraft
Kontronik

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01-01-2012 09:34 PM  5 years agoPost 17
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TR Mount

Nob,
I don't remember the number but it's the one off the gasser.
Gordie

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01-02-2012 05:06 PM  5 years agoPost 18
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01-02-2012 05:33 PM  5 years agoPost 19
ymuraki

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So G20 has 25mm boom?

Futaba/Hobbico
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01-02-2012 08:59 PM  5 years agoPost 20
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"So G20 has 25mm boom?"

Yes

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