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12-16-2011 11:50 PM  5 years agoPost 1
Bladecpnitro

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I'm trying to decide which of these chargers to get. http://www.hobbypartz.com/75p-t6-multi-charger.html
The 4 port multi-charger is neat in its own way seeing as how it can charge different cell type and voltage batteries at the same time. Which would be useful if say a friend had a different battery needing a charge at the same time.
Hobbypartz says it will charge 1 - 11.1 V lipo at 4.5 amps and 1- 22.2V at 2.2Volts. Will it do 4 - 2200 mah 11.1 V lipos at 4.5 volts per pac?? That would be a 2C charge.

If it would that would be better than getting the Icharger 106B I'm looking at and parallel charging 4 -2200 mah 11.1V lipos where I could only get a little over a 1C charge rate. The Icharger has a 1 year warranty that I like.
http://epbuddy.com/index.php?main_p...1&products_id=1

Also the Venom 2-10 is an interesting concept but I've read mixed reviews on it. It has 2 ports with 10Amps on each port. One could charge 2 - 11.1V 2200 Mah Lipos at almost 5C with it providing the batteries could handle it.
http://www.rchobbyexplosion.com/Ven...r_p/ven0663.htm

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12-17-2011 12:25 AM  5 years agoPost 2
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Out of those 3 the Icharger looks the best rated. But If I were you I'd save for a better charger than those.
What are you currently using?

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12-17-2011 01:21 AM  5 years agoPost 3
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I'm still using an Sr charger and an equivalent Turnigy charger to charge my 11.1V 800 Mah lipos for the HK 250 and the EXI 450's 11.1V 2200 Mah lipos. I can do 2 at a time that way but it takes an hour and a half. I get beat out of many evening flights this way. I could buy more lipos but I really need a way to discharge my batteries too, my 450 has been down 3 weeks with motor problems. I ordered a pinion for my backup motor, then it came too small for my shaft, another week went by got the right pinion and broke the shaft first time out while fortunately flipping back over and was able to auto it down with only a broke skid. All this time my batteries have been fully charged.

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12-17-2011 05:54 AM  5 years agoPost 4
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The Thunder T6 is a 50Watt charger!
Is that per port or total?
Either way that is really light duty toy for charging helicopter batteries.

The Venom is over priced for what you get.

The iCharger is 250Watts.
And at $89 is only $1 more than the Thunder T6.
(You do know that the Thunder is not Thunder Power, right?)

Buy the iCharger, a no brainer.

Edit: Just noticed that the Venom is Duel.
That is 2 - 200watt ports.
Now that is not bad.
That is 400watts for the money.

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12-17-2011 01:03 PM  5 years agoPost 5
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Hey TheWoodcrafter, I watched the video and supposedly it is 50 watts per port on the Thunder T6 Multicharger. I've read where people have checked each port and it reads 5 amps with no load. If you plug a 22.2 V lipo in it will only charge at 2.2 amps though per port. And supposedly it will do 11.1V 2200 mah lipos at 4.5 amps. If it can do 4 at that rate that's 2C so it would be a pretty quick charge.

The Venom 2-10 is actually 2-10 amp charging ports which would be awesome if it does what its supposed too. The thing that bothers me about it is it only has a 30 day warranty like the Thunder T6 while the icharger has a one year warranty. I've read where a few folks have had problems with their Venom 210 chargers while some folks are happy with them.

If I just get the Icharger 106B I can parralel charge 2 11.1 V 2200MaH lipos at 2c. How long would that take 30 or 40 minutes?

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12-17-2011 08:01 PM  5 years agoPost 6
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If I just get the Icharger 106B I can parralel charge 2 11.1 V 2200MaH lipos at 2c. How long would that take 30 or 40 minutes?
Most likely, yes.

Or charge 1 at 4C in 15minutes.

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12-18-2011 01:20 PM  5 years agoPost 7
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Wow! So I could charge at 4C in 15 minutes. What a way to beat that setting sun and get some more flights in. That would be 8.8 amps. Where does one find the charging rate of a battery? I use Sky Lipo 2200mAh 40C 11.1V from Hobypartz.

Waiting on batteries to charge has got to be the most frustrating part of electric flying. That's where I got my forum name, I knew I could have flown some more with a Blade CP Nitro. As it were I waited an hour and a half to fly a Blade CP 4 minutes on a 9.6V 650 Ni-mh battery.

I converted a power supply out of a computer yesterday for which ever charger I end up getting. Its only rated for 14 AMPS on the +12 wires. It should pull a 10 amp charger fine but not a dual 10 amp.

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12-18-2011 07:22 PM  5 years agoPost 8
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Most of the manufacturers have their max charge rate published.
See if you can find it on their website.

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12-19-2011 12:35 AM  5 years agoPost 9
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I did find xhelis guy Antonio on You Tube reviewing the Sky Lipos and he says they can be charged at 3 c.

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12-19-2011 12:37 AM  5 years agoPost 10
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I did find xhelis guy Antonio on You Tube reviewing the Sky Lipos and he says they can be charged at 3 c.

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12-22-2011 11:15 PM  5 years agoPost 11
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I went ahead and bought the Venom 2 10 charger. I had a computer supply to power it with but it quit shortly after hooking the charger up.

The manual says I need at least a 30 amp power supply for the charger to run it at max. And so far the cheapest I've been able to find is at horizon for 99.00.
Is there a cheaper power supply available that will put out the required amps?

I won't come close to needing that much power charging 2 - 11.1 V 2200 mah batteries, so I was thinking Hobbypartz G350 25 amp would work fine.
http://www.hobbypartz.com/77p-g350-powersupply.html

If I charge each battery at 3c that will be 6.6 amps per channel.
It should be fine shouldn't it?

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12-22-2011 11:48 PM  5 years agoPost 12
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12-23-2011 08:21 PM  5 years agoPost 13
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Thanks Salrica, I went ahead and ordered an HP DPS-600PB series ESP135 PS 12V 47 AMP. I found one for 14.99 on ebay. Its the same one in this tutorial.
http://sites.google.com/site/tjingu...-projects/HP47A

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12-24-2011 04:33 AM  5 years agoPost 14
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Hey guys, I got a chance to try out my new Venom dual 2-10 charger today for the first time and I really like it so far. I balance charged 2 11.1V 3S 2200mah Lipos at 1C to start with and it charged them both in about 48 minutes. The reason I chose a dual charger is so I have the option to charge different types of batteries at the same time should I need to. This is like having 2 separate 10 amp chargers.

It has several cool features that allows the user to view the input amperage from the 12 V source, current voltage in each entire pack, current voltage in each cell. It also has a shut off timer, adjustable max mah shut off, the time each battery has charged and an adjustable minimum amp input charger shut off. Default is 10 amps.

Since I don't have an AC/DC converter yet, I had to use a spare 12 V battery in my garage with a charger hooked to it as well to keep it from falling below 10 volts. It worked great. Its a great looking charger and fairly easy to set up after I read the

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12-24-2011 05:02 AM  5 years agoPost 15
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You essentially have 2 - 200watt chargers.
A 6S (25.2V) battery will limit out that charger at just under 8AMPS.
200W / 25.2V = 7.9A (1.5C)

Pretty light duty for a 6S 5000mAh Battery.

I think if you had mentioned 6S 5000mAh batteries in your first post I would have tried to talk you into a higher wattage charger.

I really think you will get tired of waiting for 5Ah batteries with that charger.

Thanks, TheWoodCrafter

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12-24-2011 03:40 PM  5 years agoPost 16
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Its gonna be a while before I need to charge any 5000 mah lipos woodcrafter. Unless I win the lottery, get a good side job or get a better job all together.

I'm wondering how much electricity these high power chargers actually consume. No one ever throws that figure in there when comparing cost to operate nitro V/S Electric too much either, electricity isn't exactly free. If I ran gas generator for every hour and a half I have charged lipo's in the last year, it would have been pretty costly to charge my electric Helis for the year.

What would be cool if some smart guy comes up with a tiny light weight alternator for the Nitro's that would keep their flight battery charged indefinitely.

I'm having trouble finding exactly what size flight battery goes on a 90 size nitro.

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12-24-2011 07:03 PM  5 years agoPost 17
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Power for these high output charger is usually invisible
No one really looks at the cost of charging a battery BUT -

If you are using 1000watts to charge your battery (max out for many chargers) it would take maybe 1200watts input to get that.
If you charge for an hour and a kWh cost you .14, it just cost you .17 to charge your battery.

Most people don't know what they are paying for a kWh and it is usually pretty hard to figure with all the crap fees on an electric bill.

But, you are right, I haven't seen this figured for the total cost of electric.

Thanks, TheWoodCrafter

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12-24-2011 08:15 PM  5 years agoPost 18
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0.17 cents is not a lot to charge a battery. It seems like it would be more.

I just tried to charge my 2 - 2200 mah 11.1 V lipos at 2C = 4.4 amps each and the charger kept cutting one side off. Apparently my 12v battery even with a charger hooked to it is dropping below 10 amps which shuts the charger off. I suppose I could set that 10 amp shutoff a little lower in my charger as it is an adjustable feature probably to protect ones car battery from being depleted to a damaging or walking home level. LOL! My 12v dc battery charger only pushes 6 amps max.

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