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HelicopterRobbe Cuatro - Millennium - Nova - Dyna-X › Ron Lund says "Robbe has officially ceased production of helicopter parts."
12-14-2011 05:21 PM  5 years agoPost 1
dela

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Here is an excerpt from an e-mail news letter sent out by Ron Lund - Heliproz South:

"Sadly, Robbe has officially ceased production of helicopter parts. We still have lots of parts for the SE and Milli, but it might be time to put those machines on the shelf."

It was gonna happen sooner or later.

Ron D.

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12-14-2011 07:19 PM  5 years agoPost 2
mopardan

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Put those machines on the shelf (NO WAY) ROBBE KISS MY @SS

Why would you say its time to put those machines on the shelf. I would never say that. Basically saying throw it in the garbage. And then say we have parts to sell. I'm very surprised that RON said that. So there saying your wasting your money then. I'll never stop flying these birds. I'm going to fly them more now. "Robbe Officially ceased production of Helicopter parts" That's just a statement they stopped production years ago. I haven't seen some parts for years that have been out of stock. I love Robbe Helicopters and the Robbe Schluter Executives can go Fu@k them selves for turning there backs on those who fly there machines faithfully. You have people begging for parts on RR posting there part #'s that are needed. Its not the Helicopters fault. If I didn't love these Helicopters so much I would have bailed out and never looked back. But instead I bought ten thousand dollars in spare parts over the last 5 yrs. They bailed out on there Heli line before the Futura (before the Champion model) and people said they wouldn't do it again. This is a great example of how the people at Robbe sell them selves for there Future products. Look at there track record. "LISTEN BUY OUR EXPENSIVE PRODUCTS BECAUSE WE WILL LEAVE YOU HANGING WITH OUT PARTS ONE DAY ON OUR NEXT LINE OF OF GOODS, OH YEA AND IN THE FINE PRINT "KEEP A GARBAGE CAN CLOSE BY". Now that's a way to say buy our goods. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they go out of business soon.

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12-14-2011 08:49 PM  5 years agoPost 3
dela

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I have enough parts to build 13 to 15 Futuras or Mille, so mine aren't going on the shelf either. If I only had one, I might shelve it. Or better yet, sell it to Dela or Mopardan really cheap, knowing that is will be loved. :>

Ron D.

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12-14-2011 09:19 PM  5 years agoPost 4
mopardan

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Robbe Shelf

Dam right, I'm with ya dela. Putting it on the shelf, its just not happeneing. "No body puts Robbe in the corner" or on the shelf.

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12-15-2011 03:12 AM  5 years agoPost 5
RyanW

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Take it easy. I think Ron Lund is just saying that there isn't going to be an endless supply of parts (which we already knew) and they have officially stopped making replacement parts- period.

What I want to know is how we can get a hold of the existing tooling for the Futura & Mille. Maybe Alex @ RCMarket could do some investigating. I doubt it would do much good, but it would be nice to have the molds for the canopies and tooling for the gears, control levers and servo trays. It would probably be SUPER expensive, but worth looking into for the hardcore guys. (every person would have to commit to buy three canopies a year at $1500 each for the next ten years)

I spoke with a few of the internal Robbe guys years ago (after the Mille/Nova/Quatro) and they said there was a guy who was in charge of the r/c heli line in the mid/late 90s who was into the performance and aerobatic machines. He left or was replaced by a "scale" guy and he didn't have much enthusiasm for the '3D' machines. I don't recall who replaced that guy, but basically the head of the dept. was the dictator and his likes/dislikes were the direction the company's development went. Eventually it just turned into a Horizon or Hobbico- a distribution company at the core.

If I have my timeline correct, it was during the Mille 2 rollout that things started changing internally. The Mille 3 was just a hack job at bolting eCCPM mechanics on the existing System 88 machine. You could see the "aero development team" had already left the building when that was released.

To say Robbe bailed on us isn't 100% fair. If you go back to the Mille 2 (over 10 years ago) and look at how long they kept making parts for those machines it is a decent support timeline.

For me- I look forward to taking the Futura SS off the shelf in the next year and do a frame up restoration- making it exactly like it was when I first flew it. It was however my very first machine and I still have the first set of blades I learned to hover and transition to FFF with!

-Ryan
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12-15-2011 03:24 AM  5 years agoPost 6
philip 01

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if the futura se was re-released today with direct to swash it would a winner in either nitro or e form.

robbe was ahead of their time. loved the belt drive and the head flew very very well.

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12-15-2011 01:14 PM  5 years agoPost 7
IYKIST

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If the Futura was re-released today it would be an Avro, the blitz Avro well made quality parts, quick UK makes alot of their parts and Quick UK made some of Robbe standard parts, so if you are into the Futura big time and a well made updated model buy an Avro.

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12-15-2011 03:09 PM  5 years agoPost 8
RyanW

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I agree with the Avro comment. I look forward to seeing the YS120 in that machine!

-Ryan
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12-15-2011 03:51 PM  5 years agoPost 9
mopardan

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Robbe

I have nothing againts Ron, I just bought more parts from his this week. Its Robbe. The tooling would be nice to get but I'm sure Robbe holds the rights.

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12-15-2011 04:41 PM  5 years agoPost 10
trillian

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Well, it's not a surprise really.

My first thought was about some niche heli shop picking up
the ball, as Ryan mentioned the obvious one being RC Market.

I'll have to take a little inventory and see if there's anything
I might be low on but in general I should be able to keep mine
going a long time.

The Avro is great in many ways and is equally well made and
flies great. I much prefer working on the Robbe's though, the
Avro can be a real pain to work on and what should be a simple
job can end up being very tedious. Parts are available but
expensive.

Regarding the tooling for the Robbe parts; unless they can be
used for something else, which I doubt, they're just going to
be scrap anyway so I don't know why they would ask silly money
for them.

'Time for someone to start finding substitutes for the
vulnerable parts if any exist. I'm guessing the crown gear
and main gear might be unique. The Avro clutch assembly
can be used on a Futura as it's a similar belt setup but
I don't know the tooth count off-hand.

Things like feathering shafts and main shafts can be made
if push comes to shove.

I am working on an experimental head setup using a Raptor 90
feathering shaft, but this is to get a wider spacing between
the o-ring cups rather than the availability of the stock
shaft.

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12-15-2011 05:03 PM  5 years agoPost 11
z11355

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The 'mentality' of many corporations is that they are fine w/ trashing or scrapping expensive tooling and taking it as a business cost. If someone wants the tooling, then it has that much value (the cost they could recoup if declared as a loss).

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12-15-2011 05:12 PM  5 years agoPost 12
trillian

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Well, generally you take the depreciation each year amortized
over some logical span and / or show the capital expense
when it is first purchased. I can't imagine there's any loss
left to claim after such a long time.

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12-17-2011 02:42 PM  5 years agoPost 13
erichevy

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I am with you Dan!
I love my Robbe Hughes 300C gasser.
It wil be mine until I cannot fly rc helicopters anymore.
By the way there are tons of Robbe parts all over the world.

Eric.

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12-17-2011 05:21 PM  5 years agoPost 14
Qrrambero

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someone hit a nerve with this post
We all know that for a while.
I liked Robbe, but life goes on.
I still have a Dyna X with a bunch of Robbe parts that one day I will sell to hard core Robbe flyer, if there is one left.

Ae

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12-17-2011 05:31 PM  5 years agoPost 15
erichevy

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Hi Qrrambero,

Do you still own and fly the Nova Cuatro turbine?
I really love that one...

Eric.

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12-17-2011 05:34 PM  5 years agoPost 16
Qrrambero

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No, I sold it while ago. I always flew it scare and it wasn't fun to fly like that.

Ae

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12-17-2011 05:40 PM  5 years agoPost 17
erichevy

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Whaa,
Sorry to hear Qrrambero, I always liked your Cuatro VERY much!.
I can imagine it is scary to fly with, something when owning one, giv's the real impression.
Did you sell to a runryder member?
It is my Favorite!

Eric.

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12-17-2011 06:00 PM  5 years agoPost 18
Qrrambero

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It was sold to a friend in South California. Yes he is a member
Do not take me wrong, the helicopter was great. The issue was that I had several thousand dollars in the air and I was always afraid that something went wrong while I was flying. Like a servo, gyro, radio glitch, etc.

Ae

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12-17-2011 06:09 PM  5 years agoPost 19
trillian

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Did you also have an electric converted Milli? 'Just saw
something in your gallery that appears to be an electric Milli.

I was thinking about converting one but I am taking small
steps into the area of electric helis and the weight of the
6s 5000mah Lipos has caused me to curb my enthusiasm at
the moment

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12-17-2011 06:23 PM  5 years agoPost 20
Qrrambero

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Yes, I had one. And sold to Mick (Sparkhead)
My friend here in California still has one and it flies very good, as you said it is a little heavy with the 5000mah batteries.

Ae

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