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HelicopterMiniature Aircraft Whiplash & Fury 55 › Nitro vs Electric.....just sayin
12-14-2011 05:56 PM  5 years agoPost 21
Foz

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sure some Smart-a$$ e-guy will be along soon enough
Way to be a troll. Fly watcha like.

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12-14-2011 07:16 PM  5 years agoPost 22
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LOL ^
never fails to stop
and I fly whats I like too

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12-14-2011 10:32 PM  5 years agoPost 23
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A 12 pound electric with no forethought of proper CG balancing is a prime example.

Heavy and frustrating. No thanks.
no cg issue here but it is 12.5 lbs with the big motor. however, you won't say that is a problem after flying one. at all.

having owned my first ma 15 years ago and everything in between, i have no complaints.

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12-15-2011 01:22 AM  5 years agoPost 24
mary_jolisa

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sit around here...treat coldy to the heat topic

WOW¡£¡£It is a quite active topic amoung us.
But what I would like to do is to sit around beside you all and just to see my electric helis with the words on her: my dear baby one day you will be overwhelming among them.

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12-16-2011 02:52 AM  5 years agoPost 25
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Is this thread about the Whiplash E vs Whiplash N or is it just turning into another nitro/electric blah, blah, blah.

Having both the E and N versions they both offer something very good.

For example, on the E version some of our pilots are getting as much as 8 minutes of 3D running 1900 on the head, this is not all out balls to the wall smack but would more than cover a huge segment of the pilots out there I assure you.

As for the N, it's got a huge tank which allows for longer flight times than what you'd get on other models, you could probably get 15 minutes out of this model if your running a moderate head speed and a 91 size engine.

I've weighed both models, my electric is 11.6lbs and the nitro is just under 11, (this is with lots of wires and big regulator as well as a full tank).

With the 120 in the Whiplash it's powerful, does it have the raw power that the E has with a monster Scorpion perhaps not but each has its own plus and now with the over 100 motors the gap is closing.

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12-16-2011 03:09 AM  5 years agoPost 26
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I have decided to go girlie and fly Align from now on. Cheap reliable performance flight after flight.
That's one thing I love about the hobby today; there are so many great heli brands to choose from, it's hard to go wrong. And the competition between brands is great for everyone. The past year in heli innovation has been very exciting....yet I still cling to my flybar

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12-16-2011 03:11 AM  5 years agoPost 27
philip 01

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overwhelming among them.
it is.

i'm good with both e and n. flown both for many years. just fly e at the moment for personal convienience. if i was go to nitro, the whiplash would certainly be the one.

of the features that matter to me, the whiplash meets them. e or n.

pick your poison.

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12-16-2011 09:15 AM  5 years agoPost 28
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Is this thread about the Whiplash E vs Whiplash N or is it just turning into another nitro/electric blah, blah, blah.
Yes

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12-20-2011 12:51 PM  5 years agoPost 29
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I would say the nitro due to the new 105 and the new 120
it will be a power house

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12-26-2011 03:08 PM  5 years agoPost 30
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I just found this cost comparison nitro vs electric. And counting flights they balance out pretty equally until your batteries last into a second year on the electric and you didn't have to buy new ones.

One thing else to consider though that I don't think was mentioned. One flight can last 15 minutes on nitro vs 7 minutes on an electric. It seems you can fly the nitro double the time of the electric for near the same price if they are close to being accurate prices.

I don't have a 90 nitro or 90 electric yet so I'm just speculating here. Here is the link.
http://sam2brc.wordpress.com/2011/0...a-90-size-heli/

If its fixed don't break it.

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12-26-2011 03:17 PM  5 years agoPost 31
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I just found this cost comparison nitro vs electric. And counting flights they balance out pretty equally until your batteries last into a second year on the electric and you didn't have to buy new ones
That is IF the batteries dont good bad or suffer charging damage.The chance of batteries lasting 2 years seems pretty unlikley.

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12-26-2011 03:28 PM  5 years agoPost 32
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I still think the overall cost of flying is pretty close to even when you take in to account that batteries can and WILL occasionally fail early.

You can only truly base the decision on which power source on what YOU want to take from the experience.

Nitro is a different hobby than electric. Period.

The fact that they both fly and both do 3D is mere coincidence.

Electric is for guys that just want to fly and want that crazy instant torque.

Nitro is for guys that enjoy tinkering with engines as much as they like to fly. You can enjoy nitro without ever actually flying them. You could do the same with E I guess but there's not much more involved than plugging it all in so I wouldn't enjoy it much.

The E vs N debates are pointless.
We all know E has more instant low end torque as well as mid range torque.

As to the OP...the nitro whiplash is out selling the electric by double and I think that's an interesting fact.

I don't hold any delusion that nitro is out selling electric in ALL helis but the fact that the Whiplash sales are so high says loud and clear that nitro isn't going anywhere.

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12-26-2011 04:33 PM  5 years agoPost 33
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As to the OP...the nitro whiplash is out selling the electric by double and I think that's an interesting fact.
I'm hoping that's because of the new big block engines. In fact, YS and OS both likely spent a lot of R&D resources to develop their respective motors so they probably still see a significant demand for them.

So I _hope_ that means nitro isn't going anywhere.

Also, electric is in the doldrums now on battery technology - this is still electric's Achilles' heel and the part I hate about it the most. There's now a million different brands of batteries out there and 98% of them utterly suck (just read some of the electric/battery forums). 1% of the remainder are pretty good and the other 1% are really good but cost out the Big Kazoo.
It's kind of stuck with this LiPo crapola right now. Better solutions are still only in Phd. dissertations and drawing boards and such and are still a ways away from being commercially viable.

The IC engine, tho, is very mature technology. The Otto engine was developed in the _late 1800's_ in fact, so it's practicality is a proven fact.

I remember a flying buddy of mine once remarking that the Continental A65 he had in his Baby Ace was so refined and perfected that Cont. had to quit making it almost 40 years ago - it just couldn't be improved upon. Lol, but it's kind of an interesting way to look at it.

Anyway, to me my nitro is kind of like driving a classic car vs. a Chevy Volt. You couldn't give me a Chevy Volt - I'd sell the thing to cover the sales tax and use whatever was leftover to buy a Whippy nitro and OS 105 lol.

LS

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12-26-2011 05:24 PM  5 years agoPost 34
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I think what is funny is that MA gave us options to argue about!

I dig helicopters. Ones that have crazy powered electric motors, and ones that run on fuel. Both are great. Engines, pipes, the works. No one needs to convince me of either. It's not a competition for me. Everything in balance. Just as long as the smoke comes from the pipe, and not the esc or packs.

Rob

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12-26-2011 08:04 PM  5 years agoPost 35
unclejane

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I think what is funny is that MA gave us options to argue about!
Well that's the point of the whole E vs N thing - the hope that we'll continue to get those options.

That's why it's not quite a _totally_ pointless argument, IMO. Maybe just a _mostly_ pointless argument lol.

I mean, if one happens to win out in the marketplace, the other will slowly cease to be an option for us. Heli makers will stop making one of them and we'll have to use the other whether we like it or not.

So if the perception that nitro is dead gains traction among manufacturers, well, they may try to kill it! Look at Align, for example. Their nitro line is languishing compared to the electrics - I don't think they've updated their nitro 700's since I rejoined the hobby earlier this summer and noone's heard of any updates to come. Maybe there are some being planned, hopefully? But meanwhile the electrics are already at V2. Not good, given how major of a player Align is in the heli market.

So, IMO that the debate is still alive shows there's still interest in nitro.

And fortunately manufacturers like MA and OS and YS seem to agree and are still supporting it and allowing us the option.

But I think it's good to keep discussing its merits...

LS

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12-26-2011 08:31 PM  5 years agoPost 36
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Nitros main merit is that if they stop selling nitro helis and fuel,I'll stop buying helis completely.

I'm sure there are others like me too.

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12-26-2011 09:49 PM  5 years agoPost 37
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Both fun.....no argument there.

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12-26-2011 10:11 PM  5 years agoPost 38
Santiago P

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I swear I never seen a thread hop from one forum to another like this one.

The title should include "MA Whiplash" to make clear is a discussion about the two models similarities and diferences, or just misleads into another nitro VS electric pointless argument.

At least is in the right place, again.

Santiago

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12-27-2011 04:19 AM  5 years agoPost 39
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LOL

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12-27-2011 10:34 AM  5 years agoPost 40
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The thread shouldnt have been moved to This topic,it wasnt intended to just be an Xcell topic.It was started just to show that nitro was prefered over electric,which is what the preference is at our field. Most of the electrics at our field are new flyers to helis with no nitro experience,which is probably the better way to go for someone just getting into helis as it takes all the issues with tuning out of the learning prosess.

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