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12-14-2011 06:08 AM  5 years agoPost 21
rcaircraftnut

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I dont see how a person without even the basic education required to use a spell checker, can have any idea what needs to be done politically to save our country. But dont take it the wrong way, all of you who believe that our individual votes count in a presidential election are just as ignorant. Notice I did not use the word stupid. The only votes that actually count are those of the electoral college. They elect the president end of story. Until we do away with that system we dont have democracy, we have fascism. You can disagree but the facts speak for themselves.

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12-14-2011 06:32 AM  5 years agoPost 22
Dennis (RIP)

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Until we do away with that system we dont have democracy, we have fascism. You can disagree but the facts speak for themselves.
We are NOT a Democracy.

We are a REPUBLIC.

THAT is a fact.

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12-14-2011 11:36 AM  5 years agoPost 23
RayJayJohnsonJr

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Well, then let's rephrase that a little. Until we do away with that system we are SCREWED!

Sound better?

There, their and they're. It's really that simple.

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12-14-2011 12:32 PM  5 years agoPost 24
Metalizer

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“Presidents are selected, not elected.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt
The only votes that actually count are those of the electoral college.
Maybe a good thing. In 2000, Gore had the popular votes. As you all know, i'm no Bush Fan but Gore would sell his Gammy for the Green Scheme. The only way for world government to be financed.

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerated the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism: ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.”
Franklin D. Roosevelt

The Bilderberg group, is a world wide group of leaders- Royalty who help select the next president.
The man that they think is the most likely to implement polices decided by say 300 people world wide'. The better class of Men--Walter Lipman.
Every presidental canidate { winners and losers} since woodrow wilson has been a member or closely linked to the Counsel on Foreign Relations including Obama. CFR is Bildergurers homegrown.

Edward Mandel, House of Rothchild Creature, the Carl Rove of his day helped start the group which was untill relatively recently very secret. He has a book-- fiction-- worth reading about capturing the U.S. money system and making the two party system a one party with to faces.

Reagan was not an actual member but everyone around him was.
Lastly, before there are the "primaries" there is a money primary. Wealthy investors, oligarchs et cetera chose which of maybe a dozen people they might back with vast sums. This is not altruism, but if you are Likely to recieve a billon in contracts for every five million spent.....?

It is these canidates you get to chose from though the cheif Bildegurger choices are usually uncommonly lucky.
Despite claims of communism at Obama he was the last BILD. choice and a Bilderburg appointee and the one most likely to implement the correct policies.. Like B Clinton "coming out of nowhere" with tremendous media and financial engines behind him... as had Hillary Clinton the same engines
same same.....same.

These alternative mechanisms of democracy, little discussed] are the real motors that run things.
Yes you get to choose ultimately between two or three people who are as alike as cookie cutter figures where it matters.

Ron Paul is a thrill because he is not connected with the sinister tradition..

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12-14-2011 03:22 PM  5 years agoPost 25
fla heli boy

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Ron Paul, the most honest man running. That being said, I'd vote for the crack whore down the block over Obama.

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12-14-2011 03:48 PM  5 years agoPost 26
es1co2bar3

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We are NOT a Democracy.

We are a REPUBLIC.

THAT is a fact.
most folk hate democrat so much' they don't want to hear; the word democracy system of thing. So they now want to call it a republic
sound'... to me more like they want to say republican system of thing,

inssted of democratic one,

you use the term; republic to discribe' some 3rd world country!

It's fare to say
my country's a democratic one or a communist one.with some form of socialism; or imperialism

not backward, a republican one or a communist one, with etc,

like the mid east, i can't remember the term use to discribe' there
political system of thing

autocrat i guess; this's more like communist to me,

Should the United States be a mere republic, or a genuine democracy? Republicans and other democracy detractors point to the U.S. ..

What is a republic and how is it different from a pure democracy?

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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12-14-2011 04:14 PM  5 years agoPost 27
spaceman spiff

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Accck!!! He said the "D" word! My ears! my ears!

Oh God.

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12-14-2011 04:32 PM  5 years agoPost 28
fla heli boy

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technically, we are a Democratic Republic.
Democracy = 1 man, 1 vote.
Republic = reresentative government (senators and congressmen).
One of our problems is that the senate has evolved into something it was not meant to be. Senators were supposed to represent the state that elected them, not the citizens.
Congressmen were supposed to represent their people. Big difference and it's morphed into the mess we have now.
The Senate stopped working as it was intended after the civil war as states rights have been slowly stripped away over the last 150 years.

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12-14-2011 05:13 PM  5 years agoPost 29
SSN Pru

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I dont see how a person without even the basic education required to use a spell checker, can have any idea what needs to be done politically to save our country.
Hear Hear!!

The scariest part of this statement is the realization that these types of people ARE determining out future!

escobar,

"Democrat" and "Repulbican" refer to a political party. They have NOTHING to do with the type of Government we have in this country and that is a Constitutional Republic

Watch this video and educate yourself!

Watch at YouTube

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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12-14-2011 05:26 PM  5 years agoPost 30
Dennis (RIP)

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Good video Pru.

Thanks for sharing.

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12-14-2011 05:30 PM  5 years agoPost 31
dilberteinstein

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Good video Pru.

Thanks for sharing.
I can back up Dennis and SSN Pru on this.

That video is well worth watching.

Thanks for sharing.

90% of life is "showing up"

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12-14-2011 05:43 PM  5 years agoPost 32
fla heli boy

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+2

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12-14-2011 06:31 PM  5 years agoPost 33
Metalizer

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+3
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Watch at YouTube

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12-14-2011 07:37 PM  5 years agoPost 34
es1co2bar3

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Republic for which it stands, one nation under God
REAlly, republican/democrat fighting like crab in a barrel. what a joke,

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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12-14-2011 10:44 PM  5 years agoPost 35
rcaircraftnut

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I was not trying to insult anyone. However, the type of govmnt we are "TOLD" we have be it democracy or republic is neither here nor there. What we "do" have is fascism. Big money running govt. So all the arguing in the world isnt going to change anything. And as far as my lack of punctuation goes before you say it, I'm typing this from my phone ha haha.

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12-14-2011 11:06 PM  5 years agoPost 36
rcaircraftnut

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Or if you like you can call it an Oligarchy as the video stated. Same thing in essence.

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12-14-2011 11:10 PM  5 years agoPost 37
es1co2bar3

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This's supose to be the united state of america'........now we got the opposit" the divided state of america,

the 2 party thing isn't gana work we have to come up with a different system,

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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12-15-2011 02:38 PM  5 years agoPost 38
fla heli boy

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nice vid Metalizer. A 1st grader could grasp his point.

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12-15-2011 07:08 PM  5 years agoPost 39
es1co2bar3

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nice vid Metalizer. A 1st grader could grasp his point.
Is this's how conservitive do it they get critical if someone'
don't agree with there political point of view?

democrat and republican fight like crab in a barrel, nothing new

the 2 party crap never alway work' all you get from them' s one say yes the other say heck/no

let me help you with your next retoric' is this the school you go to,

{Peripatetic school}?

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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12-15-2011 07:12 PM  5 years agoPost 40
Dennis (RIP)

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Is this's how conservitive do it they get critical if someone' don't agree with there political point of view?
Yup, pretty much.
the 2 party crap never alway work' all you get from them' s one say yes the other say heck/no
Thats the way it is and it will not change anytime soon. You can ignore it, you can stick your head in the sand, or you can join the stupidity and try to make it better. Up to you.

Just make sure you vote each time its required of you.

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