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12-13-2011 05:39 PM  5 years agoPost 1
Rogman88

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Our club has had the best president it has had for the past 2 years. He didn't want to do it this year and nobody else wanted to do it, so I got electected to do it. I've had many planker years under my belt and held officer positions a long time ago, but the past 3 years, I've been primarily flying helis. The plankers jokingly "stay on their side" of the flight line, while the heli pilots "Stay on theirs". We've got a great group of guys and co-exist well and about half the active pilots (the guys out every week) fly both. I figured that to be diplomatic, I'd better go ahead and dust off some old planks and start flying them so that the club "won't be ruined" by having a heli pilot reside over a primarily planker club.

Has anyone else done this? Any pitfalls that I should look out for?

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12-13-2011 05:56 PM  5 years agoPost 2
rcmiket

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That's ridiculous they voted you in knowing good and well your a heli guy. Just go on doing what you enjoy. Live and let live. Good luck.
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12-13-2011 06:02 PM  5 years agoPost 3
Crashr30

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I did

Yes I was President for 4 years consecutively of the club. I am a heli only pilot for the last 15 years. I used to fly planks and can still out fly 90% of the club when it comes to planks(can still build better than most of them too). I oversaw the move of the field to it's new site even though thanks to the government it has been a 6 year process that will finally be over January 1. I took the last 2 years off and now I am back as the VP. While President I earned a life time membership for my service. I also hold the most years as an officer and president for the club that is over 45 years old.

Not to brag, at least not too much, the point is that as a heli pilot I was able to accomplish all this. What it took for me to be successful in my club was to recognize that the majority consist of plankers and hence they deserve the most attention. Even though I flew helis I showed my bias to the planes. If the club had been maojority helis then that is where my bias would have been. Majority rules and there is no reason to fight an uphill battle. We are fortunate that the heli spot intferes very little with the planes. I have been careful to just protect what we have and have had to work to maintain a positive opinion of the helis. So many of the members comment on our flying in a positive fashion but as usual there is always a bad apple to try and spoil the whole thing. Anyway that is why I am VP this year so that I can keep my fingers in the pie.

So just be open minded, listen first, talk second and work to keep EVERYBODY in line when it comes to the rules. Just do not be harsh. You can make it work as I did. We do have a very good group of guys in our membership and I have to admit that they have been very supportive. I did have a fair amount of trouble with the turbine group as they tried a back door method to take over the club. We solved the problem though. Of course now we have almost no turbines at the field but they found a great spot with acres of concrete so they can land. Seems the turbine waiver means very little to their flying skills!!

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12-13-2011 06:24 PM  5 years agoPost 4
Rogman88

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Thanks for the words of wisdom Crashr30. I will do as you say and hopefully will have an uneventful year. We had our first heli fun fly this year and more and more heli pilots every year. Hopefully we can continue in the current direction with fun for all.
Fortunately the "Bad apples" have died off or are too old to fly. We used to not be able to get through club meetings without an extra 45 minutes of bickering by some old farts who griped about everything, but offered no solutions to what they were gripping about. We were planker only back then and I can only imagine how they would have responded to helis.

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12-13-2011 06:51 PM  5 years agoPost 5
hams

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I was voted in as prez a couple years ago. It just so happened they held the vote at the one meeting I was unable to attend, hehe they got me. At the time my dad and I were the only heli pilots. We now have more heli than planks! Our club is small and laid back, so everyone gets along very well.

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12-13-2011 06:52 PM  5 years agoPost 6
Stephen Born

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Congrats! Now your a politician!

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12-13-2011 07:24 PM  5 years agoPost 7
rcnut

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Our club had a simulator fate...
I did have a fair amount of trouble with the turbine group as they tried a back door method to take over the club. We solved the problem though. Of course now we have almost no turbines at the field but they found a great spot with acres of concrete so they can land.
Only it was the big (40%) plankers that did take over...and had their personal agenda for taking over our field. They managed to get voted into office as Pres. & VP.

They started out improving the field and making it as if they were the good guys and we were the bad guys. However, during a monthly meeting and the discussion was the ejecting of a club member, the "cat" came out of the bag. The agenda was laided out on the table for everyone to see...all the lies and persons involved. This has been very ugly. November was our yearly selection of board members, and December we voted in our new board members.

The Sec. & Tres. position was voted in, then the next day, both resigned due to hard feeling, false accusations, etc. In a word/phrase, our club is falling apart due to the big bird plankers trying to take over the field for themselves. And in the meantime, "they" were trying to eject heli pilots and anyone that stood up to them.

So our new board has one heli pilot (me), appointed by the pres. as an advisory position. And we are going to try to put this club back together...the way it was many years before the almost hostile take-over.

I wish you the best of luck. I believe you will do a good job and try not to be too biased in your decision making.

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12-13-2011 08:04 PM  5 years agoPost 8
Rogman88

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rcnut.

Did you guys get new pres and vice pres? secretary and treasurer?

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12-13-2011 08:59 PM  5 years agoPost 9
rcnut

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New pres and vice pres. According to our by-laws, we need to appoint a secretary and treasurer. So we will have a completely new board...7 new members total.

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12-13-2011 09:02 PM  5 years agoPost 10
Azinferno

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Why is there such a huge deal between planes and helis? I thought the hobby was for mature people lol I don't understand the big deal. Everything bout the hobby is patience and waiting so why is it so hard to share a flying field? ... Our field isn't ama but both huge planes and helis fly with no problem.

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12-13-2011 09:18 PM  5 years agoPost 11
Mutt

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why is it so hard to share a flying field? ...
Because a lot of people on both sides of the fence are inmature and not willing to share.

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12-13-2011 09:26 PM  5 years agoPost 12
rcnut

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We are almost the same,
...both huge planes and helis fly with no problem.
We have been do this for years. it wasn't until our club decided to change some of the fun fly's on our calendar. They weeded out some and wanted to add some new fun fly's.

I was approached and asked to host a heli fun fly. So I proposed the idea to the club, and it was greatly accepted. The first heli fun fly was a big success, and the club was impressed. The second was a bit smaller, but a great time with some well known pilots attending.

During our second fun fly, one of our appointed board members decided to check-out the field. He wanted to fly his 40% IMAC plane during our heli fun fly! He saw we were busy flying and using the whole field. This pissed him off and it became his agenda to band heli flying from the field.

This person told me to my face that heli flying wasn't his thing! This was the "bully" for the group that was trying to take over. However, I stand for the "little" guys, and was ready to confront him head to head if necessary, but I didn't have to. God showed me a different way, so I stood my ground and let God do the rest. It was long before the truth came out and everyone was exposed.

The funny part to all of this...before the big bird plankers tried to take over...we were a happy group of pilots; airplanes, heli's, gliders, jets, if it fly's, it was welcomed. I was helping people on a regular bases, it was fun to be there. Sometimes I would fly, other times I was helping others get in the air. It was truly a hobby. Ok, there was some bickering, attitudes, etc., but overall, it was a hobby. A place where we could hang out, fly whatever we brought. There wasn't my money is bigger and better than your money. We had fun.

So our new board is going to try to get this club back to being a hobby...once again. And there is barly enough support left in the club to make this happen...

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12-13-2011 09:35 PM  5 years agoPost 13
Azinferno

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It's crazy cause we are trying to get more people out to our field especially heli people. It takes all types to make the hobby great but we have all seen maturity or wisdom doesn't cone with age.

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12-13-2011 09:50 PM  5 years agoPost 14
Rogman88

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Why is there such a huge deal between planes and helis?
Well the biggest factor is that helis tend to fly in a "box" that generally is encompasses part of the runway. Planks need the run ways for taking off, landing, fly-by's etc.. Planks generally fly in a pattern, thus keeping the direction of the aircraft going the same so multiple guys fly at the same time. Helis don't usually fly in patterns so a greater potential for mid-airs is there. Some folks like to fly non stop, either for time constraints or for self serving reasons so that air space is not shared equally.

We get along great and heli's only fly for 5 minutes or less at our field as 90% of the helis are electric. The only rift that I have seen in the past was a heli pilot got chapped because after a 20 minute nitro plane flight he went to go fly his heli right as another electric plank started to taxi out. The heli pilot said to the planker that he would like to fly and it would only take 5 minutes, but the planker either didn't hear him, or ignored his request and went out to fly for the next 15 minutes. Needless to say, the heli pilot was quite angry and made some remarks that other plankers understood and stayed down so that the heli guy could get his fix after the offending planker landed.

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12-13-2011 09:58 PM  5 years agoPost 15
Azinferno

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I understand planes need the runway for take off and landing but just as you stated with the problem that you had some simple mature common curtesy would have avoided the whole problem. IMO anyway. Selfish people don't have a real place in the hobby from what I've always been taught its about helping and teaching others and just having a simple good time but I'm new only been in the hobby a little over a year so I maybe way off.

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12-14-2011 01:20 AM  5 years agoPost 16
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Congrats buddy!!!
It doesn't hurt to fly a plank once in awhile.
Just remember to get rid of the collective stick syndrome when going inverted with a plank. LoL

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12-14-2011 04:02 AM  5 years agoPost 17
JasonJ

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We had a giant scale gasser arsehole who tried to stir up a bunch of crap and tailor the field to his liking. He isn't in the club anymore. That's all I need to say on that. Why on earth anybody puts up with this crap is beyond me. We had a whole bunch of crap happen in our club this year and a good purging has done wonders. Now everything is just fine. Just fine...

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12-14-2011 06:29 AM  5 years agoPost 18
rcaircraftnut

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I have been in this wonderful hobby for just over 25 years. I remember when helis were an oddity and everyone stopped flying to watch the new tech contraption crash er um fly, lol. Been flying slabs now for about two years and well, I dont need a runway to take off or land I can hand launch all but my gasser into a hover and I can harrier all of em down to a spot landing on a space about the size of a picknick table. I dont fly a pattern, I dont care how many planes and helis are in the air at once either. If you are not able to fly with other aircraft in the air you are not using common sense. Need to land? Call it out, others will move off the strip so you can, need to have help looking out for other aircraft? Ask a fellow flyer to be your spotter. Simple courtesy should rule the day. I am a member of the profile brotherhood, we have been known to put over 50 slabs up at once in what we call the "Mass hover" then there is the ironman contest, full contact combat at night under the lights. Last man flying wins. So I guess I dont fall into the same area as most "plankers" lol.

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12-14-2011 01:02 PM  5 years agoPost 19
rcnut

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...a good purging has done wonders. Now everything is just fine. Just fine...
I'm getting the feeling2 our club will go through this very thing...a "purging."

There is a lot of mixed feelings within the club, and with some of them, time will heal their wounds. We had our first board meeting last night, and a lot of good things came out. We now have a good direction to get the club back together.

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12-14-2011 01:02 PM  5 years agoPost 20
Rogman88

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Just remember to get rid of the collective stick syndrome when going inverted with a plank. LoL
Yeah I flew a plank for the first time in a while a couple of months back. I noticed during rolling circles that the engine kept reving up when upright and slowing down when inverted. It took a few circuits to reprogram my brain.

3D planks have helped slabbers understand flying in a box and I've flown my helis at the same time as 3D planks. I have no problems flying with airplanes as I used to fly combat and am used to keeping one eye on my aircraft and one in the immediate vicinity around it.

Most folks at our field work well together, and if a bunch of planks are in the air, the heli guys will more times than not, throw a plank up there with them till a "lull in the action" comes about and a heli will go up. Now we've got the one guy that I mentioned in an earlier post who wants to be the only aircraft in the sky when he flies his heli, and that includes other helis as well. That was the only real tension that I've seen at our field in 3 years of active heli flying.

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