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HelicopterNext D Rave-ENV-700 › Stuffing a Nitro ENV in a Staysee 2 Fuse
12-05-2011 04:07 AM  5 years agoPost 1
deanguy

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It's cold and rainy all week and so I started taking some measurements.. Looks like it will fit just fine! Boom is slightly long but that can be worked around.. I'm going to keep it flybarless too..

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12-05-2011 05:02 AM  5 years agoPost 2
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1st step..

Was to lower the mechs as much as possible so I took a billet aluminum Caliber 90 base plate that is much stronger and had the holes drilled right for the landing gear and modified it to replace the carbon base plate on the ENV.. Stronger, lower profile and 3MM instead of 2.5 and was pre drilled for the landing gear that fits the fuse..Plus it brings the length of the head in proportion to the fuse down some which was needed..

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12-05-2011 05:45 AM  5 years agoPost 3
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2nd Step..

Ok.. Now we have them about an inch and half lower than before.. My Electric ENV is behind it so you can see the difference.. It should fit in the fuse just fine now.. Tomorrow work begins on fitting the tail and then just test flying the mechs (weather permitting) and we should be good to go..

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12-05-2011 06:19 AM  5 years agoPost 4
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nice!

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12-05-2011 10:58 AM  5 years agoPost 5
mdu6

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Interested in seeing the next steps !

I always thought that the ENV was considered too high to fit in most/all existing fuses - too high meaning the way the frame is layed out - not the height of the landing gear.

Hope to see this is not the case

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12-05-2011 02:42 PM  5 years agoPost 6
deanguy

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Yeah I measured that before I started.. Not sure about other fuses but the Staysee seems just fine.. The modified landing gear was just so I did have to drill a bunch of extra holes in a carbon plate that already had alot.. Plus I know CY designed the plastic part so it will break away in a crash, makes perfect sense.. but if you crash in a fuse what difference does it make? The whole things a wash.. So I wanted the base plate metal with no plastic.

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12-05-2011 03:37 PM  5 years agoPost 7
Sky Dancer

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I really like your new fuse.

Let's see some more details on the build, ok?

That's going to be a sharp heli....

Don C

Keep up your rotor speed !

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12-05-2011 03:51 PM  5 years agoPost 8
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Thanks! Today there will be some heavy dremel tooling..I would like to remove the vertical fin completely but CY has designed the bearing to be integrated into the fin so I'm just going to cut the carbon way down to get it to fit into the tail.. The really only issue with this build is the boom is a little bit too long.. I'm ok with that for now.. I'm not cutting the torque tube and boom and getting into all that mess.. Machine is proven and flies (I saw Russ fly the crap out of it every weekend) so if it works in the fuse I will eventually make a balsa wood "cap" for the tail and glass it and paint to make it look right and a bit longer.. but that's aways away..

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12-05-2011 04:16 PM  5 years agoPost 9
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Step 3

Getting the tail ready.. Here's a cool little trick especially for nitro machines.. I know people at the field that are really particular about getting all the dirt and grime off of their machine but there are some areas that are impossible.. I use (and keep it in my field box now) a Oral B Sonicare motorized toothbrush.. It's several years old, so when I bought a new replacement I thought "Hmmm" grime out of swashplates and tailrotor gear boxes! Perfect!

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12-05-2011 04:20 PM  5 years agoPost 10
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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This is a neat thread.

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12-05-2011 05:13 PM  5 years agoPost 11
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Step 4

Ok.. Tail is taken apart (cleaned with the tooth brush) and the shaft has been pulled out and fin cleanly dremeled enough to keep the bearing intack but enough to get the fin off to fit through the fuse.. Now on to actually fitting it into the shell and getting the mainshaft and starter hole lined up..

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12-05-2011 06:05 PM  5 years agoPost 12
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Semi Test Fit

Sure enough I need to do a little more dremel tooling.. the cyclic servo on the right side hits but the tail looks like it will come out OK.. Man I wish I could make this electric instead.. there is just no pheaseable way to get the batts in and out.. but the head looks right where it should..

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12-05-2011 06:22 PM  5 years agoPost 13
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Looks good! Keep them coming!!

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12-05-2011 08:11 PM  5 years agoPost 14
deanguy

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Wow.. lots of fitting in and out but it worked.. More dremel tooling to alow the swash to clear and open up the starter hole but we are close.. Tail came out a little better than planned.. the hardest thing was that one cyclic servo.. It looks good though.. need to order a Vbar and get to test flying.. I thought about trying to go real big and stick a YS 1,20 in it but due to all the overheating stuff I'm hearing with just pod and boom I will stick with the trusty .91..

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12-05-2011 08:19 PM  5 years agoPost 15
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How is CG?

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12-05-2011 08:22 PM  5 years agoPost 16
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Haven't gotten that far yet. I'm missing some electronics.. I'll stick lead in the nose if I have to.. It's not for 3D.. Probably make it track better in fast forward flight anyway..

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12-06-2011 03:00 AM  5 years agoPost 17
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Step 5

Hard part is over with.. getting it all lined up and the screws mounted now the tail section is on.. and the tail lines up just fine.. Now to put the tail rotor back on it it, bolt the landing gear back on.. put the VBar in it and go fly it.. I'm waiting to glue the horizontal fins on to see if there is any vibration issues 1st.. Maybe run a carbon rod through them.. Once it's all solid in the air the front shell goes on and I route the fuel and vent lines and bingo.. We have the first ENV in a Staysee! May need to GOOP in some braces if there are vibes but the machine was vibe free before I put it in.. You can see in the photo where I had to dremel the side of the fuse out to get the cyclic servo to fit..

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12-06-2011 03:41 AM  5 years agoPost 18
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Step 6

Almost forgot this part.. having to carefully Dremel out room for the ENV swash movement and the enlarged starter hole... How "dare" I make that much "noise" when some stupid Simon Cowell crap or Pirates of the Carribean is on! (Girlfriend rules.. and I'm not even married!) so you see where I ended up to get my "work" done! Hehe.. That's Ok.. She bought me a new radio for Christmas..

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12-06-2011 04:37 AM  5 years agoPost 19
rotorman2011

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You girls think this is cool? This is my favorite fuse but I can tell you, wait till this guy pulls the good stuff out of his closet and you will see something way cool. I love this build and have been waiting for him to do this one...

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12-06-2011 05:40 AM  5 years agoPost 20
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Step 7

Got the tail rotor back on and sorted out.. Needs more dremel tooling and clean up to get full unbinded travel but I have have had enough for today.. More tomorrow.. I did get an email today I figured I would share.. Thought it was pretty cool! Apparently he had time to answer email today cause usually he's busy testing (I figured the new OS 1.05 with the MP7)

Wow,

Ok, I did not think it would fit in that fuse.

Curtis Youngblood

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903 S. Main

Bryan TX 77803

979-828-4269

From: David Sweatt [mailto:dsweatt1234@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 2:32 PM
To: cy@curtisyoungblood.com
Subject: ENV Nitro in a Staysee

Hey Curtis check it out.. took me a lot of work but I made the ENV fit into the Staysee 2.. It needs more work, but just so you know it fits.. stock boom length came out almost perfect.. Hope you and your family are well.. Total G still flies like it's on rails.. I got to have a really good hour conversation with your dad at Mt. Pleasant about Total G stuff.. really interesting..David Sweatt

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