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12-02-2011 12:48 AM  5 years agoPost 1
WannaBe4D

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So, religious conservatives don't want to allow gay couples to get married because it violates the sanctity of marriage. Of course, this is in direct reference to the bible stating it is a sin to "lay with a man as [you] lay with a woman."

Here's my point; there are thousands of other demographics (non-believers for one) in America that clearly violate the Christian "sanctity of marriage" but are still allowed to get married. Why all the hatred specifically towards gays?

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12-02-2011 01:03 AM  5 years agoPost 2
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Dear my Alabama flying buddy:
The world is hiding from God.
It started with Adam and Eve.
God made them as a UNIT.

Physical Union brings an eternal spiritual union
to the couple. It's a DESIGN, a SYSTEM, it's GOOD.

Ya With me so far?

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12-02-2011 01:08 AM  5 years agoPost 3
WannaBe4D

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So you have no answer to the question? Thanks for the reply

P.S. Please don't patronize me.

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12-02-2011 01:18 AM  5 years agoPost 4
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WannaBe4D

Why? What benefit to society if we allow Gays to redefine the term marriage and use it to describe something other than what it has always been? Show me that Gay marriages are more likely to be successful, that they are involved in less child abuse, that those in a Gay union are healthier, that they are less likely to commit a crime... Something, anything that would make an unbiased person think that some good might come of it. No one is stopping Gays from living together, but why do they have to keep harping on us about calling it marriage? steve.

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12-02-2011 01:32 AM  5 years agoPost 5
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steve9534

I think you're unintentionally missing my point. Atheist's didn't have to prove any of this stuff to become legally wed. Neither did the Jews, Muslims, Deists, Agnostics or the like...why is it just the gays that have to go through this "justification" process?

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12-02-2011 01:49 AM  5 years agoPost 6
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I wish no harm on Gays.

But, if gay marriage ever comes up for a vote in my state again, I will vote against it.

I would do the same with any other kind of marriage except between a man and a woman.

Just sayin

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12-02-2011 01:55 AM  5 years agoPost 7
WannaBe4D

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So, once again the question is why. I'm not looking for whether or not you support it, only why gays are having a harder time with marriage than other demographics.

Maybe I regret trying to get a valid answer as there is none? Is it simply xenophobia?

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12-02-2011 02:00 AM  5 years agoPost 8
Dennis (RIP)

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So, once again the question is why. I'm not looking for whether or not you support it, only why gays are having a harder time with marriage than other demographics.
The best answer, at least in my mind, is that they are trying to change the definition of marriage.

That is a problem.

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12-02-2011 02:12 AM  5 years agoPost 9
WannaBe4D

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The best answer, at least in my mind, is that they are trying to change the definition of marriage.
Would the definition of marriage be exactly the same between Jews, Muslims, Deists, Agnostics, Atheists, etc? Or would you say that the definition of marriage changes between those belief systems?

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12-02-2011 03:18 AM  5 years agoPost 10
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Apples to oranges

Because the Jewish, Atheist, Buddhist, Hindu, etc. marriages you're referring to are still man with woman, not some alternate combination.

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12-02-2011 03:31 AM  5 years agoPost 11
WannaBe4D

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Because the Jewish, Atheist, Buddhist, Hindu, etc. marriages you're referring to are still man with woman, not some alternate combination.
So marriage is defined to be between a man and a woman?

Not to be rude, but I'm sure you know that most Christian churches would at minimum define marriage as a covenant (possibly a sacrament) between two spouses before God. How does an atheist fit this definition?

Wouldn't marriage have to be redefined in order to allow an atheist to be married? Of course the definition has been changed.

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12-02-2011 03:36 AM  5 years agoPost 12
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Because>>>

most men can not understand why another man would not want a set of these to play with.

Watch at YouTube

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12-02-2011 03:38 AM  5 years agoPost 13
WannaBe4D

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most men can not understand why another man would not want a set of these to play with.
Nah, I don't care how gay you are...you still like the sight of that --^

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12-02-2011 04:07 AM  5 years agoPost 14
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Your pretty much on the right track

Yes and you are not rude at all
Not to be rude, but I'm sure you know that most Christian churches would at minimum define marriage as a covenant (possibly a sacrament) between two spouses before God.
YES YES Many denominations of the faith require, that if you are going to be married in a House of Worship under the Authority of GOD you must attend a few courses so that the couple knows what they are committing !

It is NOT a COntract : TO MAN - But something much Bigger to GOD !
Hence the Witnesses in the Wedding Party.

Re : A Pre Nup Contract is a admittance they are prepared to fail. Why Bother in a UNITY ???? No skin in the game
So marriage is defined to be between a man and a woman?
YES Under GOD's Law not Man's LAW : He can cook it any way he pleases'
Wouldn't marriage have to be redefined in order to allow an atheist to be married? Of course the definition has been changed.
You can whip up any kind of contract you wish under man's law.

You cannot re- define Marriage under GOD's LAw - you should not find atheist being married in a House of Worship -- unless you have found a church which has broken the covenant -- and their are many !

Kinda fall's back on what has MAN's LAW done to GOD's Law which is truly sad. GOD's LAW ALWAY"S SUPERSEDES MAN'S LAW

I believe in the State of Florida : If you are a NOTARY you can even unite a couple. eVEN A sAIL bOAT sKIPPER CAN SIGN THEM OFF.

Should really be: {issue a contract} man's : for address and legalities and of course TAXES ! A binding that can be easily broken.

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12-02-2011 04:14 AM  5 years agoPost 15
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I believe the best "worldly" answer to your question would be the reprobate mind of man has the ability to pervert anything. Being gay is considered right in that individuals mind as long as they say it is right and justify the behavior to themselves. Unfortunately for these individuals the majority of the population still recognizes this behavior as wrong and unnatural, therefore still coming to the conclusion that marriage is still between a man and a woman no matter what their individual beliefs may be. Wanna know how strong some people feel about this? Go to a Muslim country and tell them you are gay.

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12-02-2011 04:16 AM  5 years agoPost 16
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Okay, with all of that understood, why can't gays get married under man's law just the same as an atheist can?

Why can't religious institutions and their followers (and subsequently politicians) separate gay marriage just the same way they have separated atheist marriage? To be married under man's law, not God's law? Does that make sense?

My cousin actually officiated a wedding in the state of Florida and he's a notary public. I think this is the case in most states only they may refer to this person as a justice of the peace instead of notary public.

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12-02-2011 04:20 AM  5 years agoPost 17
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And also on the "Man's law" vs. "God's law" argument. Doesn't the Bible in some way state the governance of man is directly instituted by God? Wouldn't this in essence make "Man's law" the same as "God's law" since he institutes the people who write "Man's law"?

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12-02-2011 04:21 AM  5 years agoPost 18
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Because the majority of the population still recognizes this behavior as wrong and unnatural no matter where they stand with God. Wanna know it's true, just look to the animal kingdom for proof, not much "gay" happening there. The difference between man and animal is man's ability to reason, and therefore pervert what is natural.

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12-02-2011 05:15 AM  5 years agoPost 19
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Why can't religious institutions and their followers (and subsequently politicians) separate gay marriage just the same way they have separated atheist marriage? To be married under man's law, not God's law? Does that make sense?
Atheist marriage is still one man one woman. It is tolerated as it allows for separation of religion only, not gender. What you are really asking is for a redefinition of the word/act called marriage. To solve the issue the only need add a new word for union of same sex. This would help the progression of gays and lesbians as they appear so disruptive.

I don't agree with the lifestyle or athieism but if they want to have the same tax, insurance benefits, and powers then by all means create a new word and keep it moving. Stop trying to hijack everything. Even the word gay was perverted to mean unnatural reproduction practice. I say practice since that's all that can happen due to our species isn't asexual.

Also for the record please state the intention of your post as it seems you're just screwing around with this topic versus trying to reach an actual end game. Maybe that is your intention.

Sounds like were cooking with gas....

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12-02-2011 05:17 AM  5 years agoPost 20
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laugh it up, this bs is commin to a city near me

civil unions for legal purposes fine, but gays are freaks, they shouldnt be allowed to be "married".

homosexuality aint right, dont fool yourself, bleeding heart liberals or not

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