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11-30-2011 01:50 AM  5 years agoPost 1
misskimo

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Alaska 17 years, before mississippi for 31y

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hey, well I received my kit today, About time!
Well I will post pictures as I go.
I sure wish it was warm here so I could fly it, But I wont see it fly till 2012
I will list what I will do first later, Dont expect for a fast build though, remember I have all winter.

T

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11-30-2011 08:27 AM  5 years agoPost 2
misskimo

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well , I couldnt stand it, I had to start.

I was suprised by the small heavy box Taped to the sides and top in the big box it came in, the rest was a boom and a big ole nice lite canopy stuffed in a ton of peanut foam. it was well packed, Took the little box out and started going through what was in there, no instructions, but they are coming I bet in a download PDF file from Minicopter , I did find some build pictures on HF, that was nice, but every bag in the box has a number on it.
The build is NICE! so far everything fits like a glove . Looks like I got a 2 In cresent wrench too. Thats better than a peice of candy from RH

T

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11-30-2011 08:30 AM  5 years agoPost 3
misskimo

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Make sure the Big side of the bearing are pointed toward each other on the main shaft since these are flanged bearing , The bearing blocks are milled to recess the flange in the bearing block . NICE looking

well its pretty simple and fitting like a glove so far

Well a few days later, I did alittle work on the machine. Its been nice, I installed the First Proto Type Xera Motor David Built 3 years ago. Its the same as a 4030-3Y 500 KV. This motor was made in NC USA on his own CNC machines , I ran it back in the day when I first got the Joker 3DD From Gerd. It ran Great! I will be running it on 10S 10000 ma, Gear ratio is 10.87 to 1 with some big ole 750 blades. A good 1500 RPM 3D smooth smacker. My mini Vbar came in.
also some warmer weather is here, 40 degree change in temps, was -20, now its 20 above

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11-30-2011 11:53 AM  5 years agoPost 4
Zaaaguy72

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Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors Heli, thou shalt not covet they neighbors Heli! Dang it, I'm jealous!! Very cool man, the Diablo looks like one sweet machine.

Team Sanjel!

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11-30-2011 03:24 PM  5 years agoPost 5
dumbthumb75

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There's only an online manual available.

http://www.minicopter.de/en/diabolo/online-manual

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11-30-2011 09:29 PM  5 years agoPost 6
Santiago P

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You can use the Google translator to get an OK english version of the online manual. They are currently working the english version.

Even better,
there is a build thread with videos at the "other" helicopter website (HF) with lots of good advice. I will try some of my build pics to this thread (with misskimo permision) but not repeat what he posts.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors Heli, thou shalt not covet they neighbors Heli! Dang it, I'm jealous!! Very cool man, the Diablo looks like one sweet machine.
If you saw one in person you would not be coveting thy neighbor's, you would own one. It happened to me.

Santiago

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12-01-2011 02:14 PM  5 years agoPost 7
Zaaaguy72

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Thats what I am afraid of!

Team Sanjel!

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12-01-2011 11:47 PM  5 years agoPost 8
Gerd

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Just added the english translation of the manual.
Online-Manual

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12-02-2011 03:34 AM  5 years agoPost 9
misskimo

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thanks Gerd,

I did alittle more on the heli today, posted pictures up above
Its going nicely

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12-04-2011 11:01 AM  5 years agoPost 10
misskimo

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posted more pictures up above

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12-04-2011 12:39 PM  5 years agoPost 11
Mercuriell

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Nice pics - what 750 blades are you gonna use - I heard Edge were trialling some but can't see any for sale !

John

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12-04-2011 01:23 PM  5 years agoPost 12
Gerd

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I have heard from NHP that they prepare 750s "Aggressor" blades (special airfoil) end of this year. Hope they have similar flight items like the 690s. The 690s Aggressors with 190 grams are great blades and who likes Radix he will like them too.

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12-04-2011 10:40 PM  5 years agoPost 13
Mr. Ben

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Hi Gerd,
When will there be a supply of spare parts in the US?

Ben

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12-05-2011 06:26 PM  5 years agoPost 14
Santiago P

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South West, Ohio

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Here are a few photos of my build and some notes. My intension is not to duplicate information that’s been covered before, but to make awareness of small details that may not be clear or obvious to a less experienced modeler, and sometimes highlight other cool particular items of this model.

With that, here are the photos:

Every bag is numbered and completes a stage. I had bags with an extra screw, and sometimes extra shims that were not needed. I kept leftovers in the bag that it came from to remind me which section they belong to if later needed. (I can always revisit to see if I missed something)

Make sure you file the corner of the frame(s) opening where the shaft bearing block/servo lug goes into. On mine it took about .3mm more beyond taking the corner radius for the bearing block match the from hole effortlessly. Do not be tempted to open up the front hole, that will ruin the alignment of the main shaft and entire frame.

Remember to shim below the belt pulley as required, Mine took both .2 shims. Loctite, all screws going into metal and all setscrews.

It is a very good idea to sand off a small area on each side of the boom to allow discharge of any static through the frames.

Contents of bags 3 and 4 shown here.
The later production kits do not have a recess cutout on the boom brackets for the tail pushrod. These had me confused for a brief moment, and is was recently updated in the online manual.

Initially, I had a fun time putting the tail belt pulley assembly in its place. I used a jewelers file to knock off the edges of the bosses to about a 30 degree arc, on both sides and marked them with a sharpie so I can line them up. The pulley when in on the 1st try after that and required no shims.
Also make sure you use the correct setscrew to pin the pulley on the tail shaft, one setscrew has a flat and the other has a pointed end that goes to the pulley/shaft hole. Again, remember to loctite, the setscrew. I saved the flat setscrew in the bag for the tail hub.

When assembling the bearings for the belt tensionmeter and guide, I noticed with a magnifying glass the bearings center do protrude more on side than the other. Put the two protruding sides against each other to assure the bearing stack rolls smoothly when tightened.
(better photo later)

The installed system is just plain cool!
Here is the half frame with the belt tensionmeter and boom.

My left frame was missing one hole corresponding to the horizontal U channel stiffener. (this problem only occured every third frame off the CNC cutter and is been corrected) I just copied the distance from the right frame, drilled a small hole and slowly open it to size with the jewelers file. This issue is been addressed in the CNC software.

Here is the left frame going onto the large assembly:

More to come.

Santiago

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12-16-2011 03:12 PM  5 years agoPost 15
Santiago P

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South West, Ohio

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Here she is with the lower frame, landing gear, and servos. All that takes just a few minutes.

I used BLS253 and had a hard time finding eyelets that would accomodate 3mm mounting screws. Luckily I found some old Ace RC eyelets that were perfect in lenght and ID. I believe BLS451s come already with big eyelets that work perfectly.

Santiago

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12-16-2011 08:45 PM  5 years agoPost 16
Eco8gator

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Palm Beach, FL

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Hello

That heli is looking very very good.

I can't wait to get mine.

Carlo

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12-17-2011 12:36 AM  5 years agoPost 17
Santiago P

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South West, Ohio

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The Little Things That Make a Big Difference

The kid includes a nice wrench for the ball links. the links also have a small hole you can use to insert a 2mm wire to help you turn the links.

Santa came in early with a small, very unpretentious box with a tini sticker outside,

and this 10,000W black beauty inside

Santiago

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12-18-2011 07:31 AM  5 years agoPost 18
misskimo

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hey thats one big motor , I just received my motor Xera 4035 400 kv to try later , I will use the one I have on it now for testing next year on 10S, I have the head installed, Tail is almost complete! Yeh! I hope to have some time to finish it this weekend, might have some warm weather for a test flight,

T

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12-19-2011 12:02 AM  5 years agoPost 19
Santiago P

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South West, Ohio

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Servos in place, motor is temporarily in place.

yes, that is not the Xera, is the Scorpion 4035-500 I will be using for maidem and FAI style flying. The big Xera goes in place when I am ready for 2ndary tests and speed runs.

Next will be the rotor head asembly

Santiago

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12-19-2011 05:47 AM  5 years agoPost 20
Santiago P

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The head is altogether, upper control links are on tun buckles with left hand threads to the upper side so when turning the rod clockwise makes the link shorter and counterclockwise for longer.

Rotor head placed on main shaft and fasten with a single Jesus bolt than clamps the main hub to the shaft.

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