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11-30-2011 09:15 PM  5 years agoPost 21
Dennis (RIP)

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well i hate to say it but i haven't seen 1 post saying that the usa will not brake up
We could have some serious problems if the Dems keep office in any majority and do not get control of the spending going on now. We already have serious problems because of the spending. But, the American people have not really felt enough pain for a long enough time yet.

But, break up?

What do you mean by that?

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11-30-2011 09:57 PM  5 years agoPost 22
doc heli

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stan sounded pretty good until the end when it turned into a commercial. but it is getting scary out there

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11-30-2011 10:20 PM  5 years agoPost 23
Dennis (RIP)

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stan sounded pretty good until the end when it turned into a commercial. but it is getting scary out there
Actually, its beyond scary. Its downright dangerous right now.

Its not just us that its affecting. Its the entire world.

We are all attempting to bail each other out when neither of us have any money. They keep bouncing trillions of dollars arounbd the world through our banking system form one country to the other in the hopes that something will happen to make it all go away.

THAT will inevitably crash and burn. Its possibly just a matter of time. That time could be short.

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11-30-2011 10:49 PM  5 years agoPost 24
doc heli

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well states like where on one side in the civil war bite form a country of there own or state along the border would join the country that is there , like michigan going to Canada texas to Mexico

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12-01-2011 01:43 AM  5 years agoPost 25
Jerry K

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The problem is not the Democrats or the Republicans, but the problem is the Politicians! This country is broken and there is no repairing it. When the politicans figured how much money could be had as a politician we were sunk.
I feel we have become too civilized for our own good, we care to much for peoples FEELINGS and being do gooders at everyones expense. We cannot afford it any more. PC has run amok!!!

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12-01-2011 01:09 PM  5 years agoPost 26
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I couldn't agree more Jerry. PC is killing us as well as having lawyers in politics and lobbying. Get rid of the lobyists and make it illegal for lawyers to serve in politics. Would go along way towards solving our problems, if they can be solved at this point.
I didn't know til the other day that China only hold a little over 1 trillion of our debt. I wonder who holds the rest??

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12-02-2011 01:57 AM  5 years agoPost 27
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The one thing that will bring this country down is the lack of a news media with guts like we used to have. The news media is so slanted now towards the left they can do no wrong.

Here is a prime example: George Stepanopoulos was a democratic operative when Clinton was in office and defended him, when it was obvious that he was guilty of what he was accused of. Now he is a member of the "unbiased news media" and he does an interview with Herman Cain. The lead in is will these sexual acusations tople a republican front runner. He is almost gitty about what he can do to Cain in the broadcast. That is a prime example of a hypocrite

Another example is the difference in the way they cover the Tea Party vs the Occupy Wallstreet. OCW can do no wrong even with all the arrests which have taken place.

We need a news media that is not afraid to attack anyone which is in the wrong place at the wrong time and to stand up for this country no matter which side of the isle it effects.

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12-02-2011 02:24 AM  5 years agoPost 28
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In a Sense we will be safer than most

Best part of the whole mess - is that we actually still Print our OWN money even though we need a wheel barrow to carry it
It's based on more than a paper currency - a whole lot more go's into figuring the actual $$ value - work habit's- ability history ect .

Most of the EU - EUR-Oh ( mult- national's ) is a leveraged / borrowed and balanced valued against the U.S. currency. That's US ! They can't pay it back due to the entitlement pressures & gift's their government has given their citizen . Scarey part they cannot create their own value in material goods and services.

They are ( Eu - Row } into the USA as a whole to the USA Bank's over 40% + and it will grow ! That;s what's only showing - let alone the off shore industry's we have seeded and the countries we support as a enity.

Hence the reason the USA's Federal Reserve is going to pour addition $$ " Me and You" MEGA $$ into the fund at a bargain basement attractive interest rate to encourage them to borrow even more - it's a temporary patch for their mess. hoping they have the time to trim off the fat or their leverage debt

It's a Double Down situation on the CRAP table hoping they can recover the total's at a later date " Fat Chance".

It can get to be a bit fun

Bank's are FLUSH WITH CASH looking for suckers

Wait till they are forced to push it off onto the floor then a Buck will be worth a buck

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12-02-2011 03:09 AM  5 years agoPost 29
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The worlds governments need to let the most foolish of countries (like Greece) crash and burn as a lesson to all. Just like we should do with California! If they had to reap what they have sown they might just learn a little common sense before the next time they pull this crap.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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12-02-2011 04:38 AM  5 years agoPost 30
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Its real simple

Over the years, poiticians found they could buy votes. First like in Chicago, they handed out cash for votes, but some felt this was offensive, so they built things and formed programs to give away benes. It was OK then as the working people outnumbered the scum. As time went on the "Gimme" people bunch kept getting bigger, so votes went to those Pol's that gave away the most. We call that bringing home the "Bacon" or some call it "Pork"

Well guess what folks, we reached critcal mass, the "Gimme" people are now over 50% of the voting population. Over 50% of our citizens don't pay no taxes, how do you think they vote?

I'm 64 and hope I'm still around when the fun starts, thank God I got fixed and don't have kids.

This 2012 election is our last chance to stop/slow down our doom. It should be interesting and fun. People don't realize, you eventualy wind up having to live in the **** you let build up around you.

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12-02-2011 04:42 AM  5 years agoPost 31
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WIsh it was that easy !

This situation is so Hugh and intertwined I really doubt if any mystic can discover a method to untangle it except for hitting the re- set button and wash the book's of bad debt.

I kinda imagine it like the time a 40 gallon soup pot was drained then went cold - full of spaghetti

Imagine a time when a basic 2X4 was $2.76 and a sheet of rock was $5.87 sheet of Ply was $12.00.
People then went and mortgaged $300,000.00 at 7% for a 2500sq ft home. AND SIGNED ! on a 30 year then amortize the note payment over the 30 year period! You would have a Vapor LOCK

Can you imagine how much raw material you could purchase for the original Note ??? and how much raw material cost is actually in the product

What has happened the value's has been established over the amount of dept ( leverage ) and not the raw material value.

I hope they do claw back's on the bank's, stop Barney, Frank, and Nancey from leaving, chase down all the off shores with the rest of the bandit's and freeze them out. POOF

Then burn the stuff for heat

Went thru it with Peanut President ! At that time mortgages for 30 year was 10.5% with a required 10% down. Car money used was 18% new was 9% , cash saving's payed 9% - market's were 11% to 14% and the DOW floated around 7000 When it went 10,000 we danced and shook our heads'

They sold it - we bought into it / be happy

greyeagle

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12-02-2011 12:00 PM  5 years agoPost 32
baby uh1

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Historically the worlds answer to financial diaster and US weakness has been war. War puts everyone back to work!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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