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12-01-2011 11:47 AM  5 years agoPost 21
McKrackin

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problem with the crank switch is you cant crank the motor without fear of it starting. example... priming it, testing throttle opening, or clearing out fuel or a flooded motor. I like to have full control.
It doesn't light instantly and takes a second to completely warm up so it's primed when the plug lights.

Why do you have to crank it to check throttle opening?

Clearing fuel? Flooded? Why would you not have full control? TURN THE SWITCH OFF.
Also,just tip the heli to the exhaust side and the fuel just falls right out that big hole in the side of the jug. Gravity.lol...

Cranking on an engine with no intention of it starting is harmful to the engine and irresponsible.

If the fuel is on,it will hydraulic and break something.

If the fuel is off,there's no lubrication in the engine and you're cranking metal to metal for no reason.

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12-01-2011 11:51 AM  5 years agoPost 22
Ronald Thomas

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Cranking on an engine with no intention of it starting is harmful to the engine and irresponsible.

If the fuel is on,it will hydraulic and break something.

If the fuel is off,there's no lubrication in the engine and you're cranking metal to metal for no reason.
You are wrong. The lubrication is in the fuel so there is no harm in cranking an engine without starting it. Worst case you are lubricating the engine for when it does start.........Ron

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12-01-2011 11:54 AM  5 years agoPost 23
McKrackin

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You are wrong. The lubrication is in the fuel so there is no harm in cranking an engine without starting it. Worst case you are lubricating the engine for when it does start.........Ron
Read my post again...I said if the fuel is OFF...

The fuel carries the lube but if the fuel is off...

And if it's on and not burning,you'll fill the cylinder with fuel and lock it up and maybe even break something.

Crank on yours all you want...I won't.

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12-01-2011 12:10 PM  5 years agoPost 24
Ronald Thomas

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I copied too much from my phone. Turning a motor over with the fuel on and not starting it is not harmful to the motor. A hydraulic lock can occur even if you have the glow plug ignited also.
When I ran nitro boats, it was preferred to run fuel through the motor before staring it. It lubes the motor and cleared the cylinder to ensure a clean start........Ron

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12-01-2011 12:17 PM  5 years agoPost 25
DaveW

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Oh great....another arm chair know it all.

Just so you know if the motor is flooded the entire case is full of fuel. Above and below the piston. Tipping the Heli over on the exhaust side will only dump the fuel above the piston if it's BDC. You still need to run the piston up and down a few times to clear out the transfer ports and remaining in the crank as it all won't come out when it's at BDC.

It will also take a ton of dry runs to do anything to the ring in these motors when it's dry because the rpm is so low starting and there is always oil imbedded in the sleeve wall. It's only necessary to oil everything for first start after a rebuild as no oil may be present if it was cleaned well.

Back to the topic. I didn't realize the unit you were speaking of could be turned off without powering down the Heli. If so the it seems to be a nice feature. If you have to turn the Heli off then I don't like that cause I wouldnt want to keep gOing through FBL initialization.

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12-01-2011 12:20 PM  5 years agoPost 26
McKrackin

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A hydro lock is 100% more likely if you're pumping fuel in and not burning it.

Priming an engine to lube it is fine but just cranking and cranking on it is crazy.

I was only commenting on the post that made it seem like an automatic glow warmer took all the fun and control out of the hobby.
I think it's the complete opposite.

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12-01-2011 12:26 PM  5 years agoPost 27
McKrackin

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Oh great....another arm chair know it all.
Look who's talking.

At least I don't comment on something I've never heard of.

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12-01-2011 12:31 PM  5 years agoPost 28
DaveW

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Am I right in my assumption? Can it be turned off without powering down the Heli? If not then, I Said I didn't like that. You might, you buy it I won't. It a preference thing. Nothing more. I like Dave and I'm sure he makes a great product. Just not for me.

Can anyone comment on how to hook a switch glo to the full size vbar for remote operation. I order mine and haven't gotten it yet to look it over.

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