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HelicopterAlignT-REX 600N › 600 v2 Problem
12-05-2011 01:49 AM  5 years agoPost 21
tacohd86

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I thought the same thing gftazz,but the ridge on the plastic ball link end will not go into the metal A housing.That is a special ball link end specifically for the elevator arm.The ridge is put on there to prevent it from going down in there.That is the stopping point to where it's suppose to fit.Of course I could grind the ridge off and get it down in there farther.

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12-05-2011 01:56 AM  5 years agoPost 22
hotrodvigor

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I ended up with a 16th of a inch ridge above ele. and mine works great.

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12-05-2011 03:45 AM  5 years agoPost 23
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Yeah,I'm pretty much convinced that there's something more wrong with it than just some simple adjustments.I'm kinda leaning towards Simmer's post of the mainshaft being too short.

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12-05-2011 02:43 PM  5 years agoPost 24
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You need to measure that shaft. Often its the obvious things we tend to overlook. We know its supposed to be the LONGER one,(Flybar) that would def account for your issue. Maybe it shipped with the wrong shaft, or if you bought it localy maybe the main shaft was taken out for someone who got the wrong size and inadvetantly put back into the borrowed box.

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12-05-2011 10:26 PM  5 years agoPost 25
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Yes that is what I meant.

Yes that is what I meant that the ridge is supposed to be up against the top of the ele A arm thats what stops it and the smaller tapered part goes down into the A arm.

Oh No Someone Please Stop Me Before I Go Broke With This Heli Thing!!

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12-07-2011 01:47 AM  5 years agoPost 26
tacohd86

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Bingo

Good job Simmer.Now I can finally quit scratching my head.I measured my shaft at 192mm.I got on Align's website and found out that the 600N calls for a 201mm shaft and the flybarless calls for a 191.8mm,which I have, so Align kinda "gave me the shaft" for 9.2mm.Now if I could only get them to answer the email that I sent on Sunday maybe I could get them to send me the right shaft.

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12-07-2011 02:57 AM  5 years agoPost 27
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"Oh-No"

A guy on my post just brought it to my attention that the manual for the V2 calls for a 6x10x191.8 mainshaft,and sure as hell I looked and that's what is printed.Now I'm scratching my head again.I wish Align would answer my email.That's got to be a mistake in the manual.There's no way.The mechanics of this machine just aren't adding up to what the manual calls for it to.

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12-07-2011 03:05 AM  5 years agoPost 28
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Does anybody know of any other models that their flybar and flybarless model uses the same size mainshaft.I can't figure out why the flybarless and Flybar V2 models use the same mainshaft but the 600N uses a 9.2mm longer mainshaft.

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12-07-2011 03:10 AM  5 years agoPost 29
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I'm about ready to throw in the towel and take up Golf or Bowling.LOL

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12-07-2011 05:59 AM  5 years agoPost 30
Simmer

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http://www.readyheli.com/HN6118-Ali...on_p_37819.html

Instructions:
This optional main shaft is to be used on a T-Rex 600 Electric or Nitro. Not a T-Rex 600ESP (it already uses a short main shaft). The purpose of this main shaft is to lower the rotor disc by ~10mm.

In order to utilize this shortened main shaft, the following products must be purchased: H55047 and HN7058-1. Without these, the main shaft will not work with your T-Rex 600!

Includes:
- 600FL Main shaft x 2(Ö6*Ö10*191.8mm)
- M4 Socket screw x 2(M4x4mm)
- Socket collar screw x 2(M3x20mm)
- M3 nut x 2

http://www.ronlund.com/rcheli-prod/..._3G/H55047.html

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=275806

these should get you going again
It just has to fit/work. Some mis matched parts in your kit, or the swash guide (was already mentioned, may have been upside down.

Do check the obvious things.... radio setup at 100% not 150 (JR radios) straight curve on pitch etc.

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12-07-2011 01:11 PM  5 years agoPost 31
tacohd86

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Thanks Simmer.The helifreak thread shows that the V2 isn't the only model with set-up problems.But the way I look at it,for what I paid for this kit I'm not going to look around for different size links and different ways to change things to get it to set-up correctly.Seems to me that the only correct fix is for Align to either manufacture a little bit shorter elevator arm or a little bit longer mainshaft.Someone here locally suggested that I drive the guide-pins out of the head block and grind or cut 2.5mm off the head block,reinstall the pins and that way the swash will travel 2.5mm farther upward to give me more pitch.Yep,that will work but like I said I shouldn't have to do that and I'm not.I'm just going to kick back until Align answers my email.The Helicopter should set-up just the way it does per manual.If I installed something wrong Align's got pictures and they will find it.

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12-07-2011 03:28 PM  5 years agoPost 32
Simmer

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you do not need to remake anything. Its not a part made worng, its a wrong part or parts. Your doing fly barred. You cant use the short shaft OR shorter links, (which should only come in the flybarless kits)
Align could perhaps get you the parts free of charge, but the time and energy to manage that is not worth the 20 or less dollars of parts to fix it. If you bought the kit from a dealer (hobby shop) they should get the parts for you and you could just give them the wrong parts back. then they put them in the next kit for someone else to have an issue building.

I have an older flybarred kit and did the upgrade to flybarless. There were parts I needed to replace - opposite of you.
I just think that they will be 90 again when the right parts get pulled in the picture. The slider for the pins on the main shaft.. that if upside down will also cramp your total travel , (I know you looked at that and I think you may have gotten that right but make sure. Check the manual.

FYI: the reason for he shorter main shaft is it lowers the center of gravity, bringing the blades closer to the body. Better flight characteristics.

Seriously great helicopter though. Match the wear spots, (links to the tail rotor, One way beraing (best to replace this from the get go with a Boca bearing. That again is worth the 20 dollars, Ive had mine for 4 plus years now and it still flys great. (Fast servos make a huge difference.)

Its the price to performance ratio on this heli that beats out many others. (were talking repair cost and the ability to find parts everywhere)

Dont toss that baby out. Take it to someone with lots of experience. Something has to still be off about it.

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12-07-2011 09:16 PM  5 years agoPost 33
hotrodvigor

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I agree with Simmer, this heli kicks ass in all ways! I love mine and want to buy another.

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12-25-2011 12:33 AM  5 years agoPost 34
tacohd86

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Solution

Here's how I fixed mine.The standard ball links are the same length as the elevator special ball link.18mm long.There are a couple of extras in the spare parts bag.Cut the ball link down 2.5mm so that it measures 15.5mm in total length.Put into the elevator A arm.Shorten the aileron rods 2.5mm but lengthen the flybar cage to mixing arm rods 2.5mm.The swash will now set 2.5mm down lower.At mid stick all servo horn ball links will be vertical and all levers will be horizontal.Mixing arms will be level and and pitch rod to mixing arm will be 90 degrees.I come up with right at 0 degrees of pitch at mid stick.15+ degrees of positive pitch and 15- degrees of negative pitch.Simple solution and it worked out well.

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01-02-2012 11:16 PM  5 years agoPost 35
leicester

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I had the same problems you guys were/are having when I took the head off. drop a turnigy swash leveller on and found the pitch and aileron prongs were too high when compared to the elevator. So I shorten the links to these by four turns and the leveller sat on all three prongs of the swash. With all other links made up as per manual I now get plus/minus 13.5 degree and zero at mid stick. Could get 14 with a push I think. I choose to run plus/minus 11 degrees.
Before using the tool the swash looked to me quite level. And so, might I suggest that you guys give the tool a go.

https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/...o/20516/140.jpg

stay safe

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01-13-2012 05:59 PM  5 years agoPost 36
imranrajputt

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Tacohd86

Thanx Tacohd86 your formula is working. I got +15 and -15 pitch
Thanx again

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