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10-29-2011 09:05 PM  6 years agoPost 1
tzclark

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You guys watch this series? Fred screwed them big time!

I would rather be in a boat, with a drink on the rocks, then in the drink, with a boat on the rocks!

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10-29-2011 09:27 PM  6 years agoPost 2
Michaelm0268

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They are a bunch of idiots!!

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10-29-2011 10:24 PM  6 years agoPost 3
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Yea, their not the sharpest knife's in the drawer ,for sure but fred a real snake!

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10-30-2011 12:36 AM  6 years agoPost 4
smokey

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Fred is a snake but If I would have been the hoffmans I would have said fine it yours we will remove all of our equipment within 48 hours. I thought there was a law up there that says that you have to return the land back to it's original state when you leave, meaning the glory hole would have had to be filled back in. and the then left.

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10-30-2011 12:48 AM  6 years agoPost 5
neilg.

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from what i heard, Todd did not make a monthly payment to the land owner allowing Fred to make his move. If i was leaving, i would have burnt down all the buildings, filled in the hole and removed all my equipment.

But this is a reality show and all scripted.

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10-30-2011 12:49 AM  6 years agoPost 6
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Yea, their not the sharpest knife's in the drawer ,for sure but fred a real snake!
It may be time to buy your own knife sharpener.
Your post should have read:
"Yes, they're not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Fred is a real snake."

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10-30-2011 12:50 AM  6 years agoPost 7
tzclark

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Its a pretty entertaining show though, if it was a realistic idea it would be fun to take a crack at. The show i am unsure of is the one filmed in your town Michael, called sons of guns. its gotta be the most scripted show on discovery.

I would rather be in a boat, with a drink on the rocks, then in the drink, with a boat on the rocks!

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10-30-2011 12:51 AM  6 years agoPost 8
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Gold Rush=fake

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10-30-2011 12:53 AM  6 years agoPost 9
Michaelm0268

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Yea I know most of the guys on sons of guns all of it is scripted! I can't stand watching it!

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10-30-2011 01:21 AM  6 years agoPost 10
A. Bundy

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I did think $15K was a skitch too much for a Colt SAA...lol

BTW,I hate how they juice every show up.The second I see fake I'm done and everything they have on now is total fake crap.Just really bad acting from regular people.

Real is better.I would rather watch a documentary of a real crew.

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10-30-2011 11:58 PM  6 years agoPost 11
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Yes that Fred is a piece of crap. But Todd did miss his lease payment. Then Fred bought the land from (??cant remember) but he didn't need to run them guys out. He even said how he looks like the bad guy, claim jumper, snake and everything else but he said that couldn't be further from the truth. How? I know it isn't all 100% real life but I think the baseline story is true. I think they are really digging up gold out of the ground and the machines really do break down or what not but I think 25% of it is to make better television. In the previews of upcoming shows they talk about rebellion and revenge. I don't think we have heard the last of old Dakota Fred. I think them Hoffman boys might be going back to old porcupine and run freddy boy out! Of course I am only guessing but that would make it way more interesting!

These are only my thoughts, I spent my last two cents on parts!

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10-31-2011 12:03 AM  6 years agoPost 12
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Yep Fred was no good. I wonder if they will keep filming him?
Earl was the one that Fred bought the land from....

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10-31-2011 12:16 AM  6 years agoPost 13
swoop_g

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Yep Earl. Its just messed up that they had everything figured out and they had all the hard work done and now Fred just gets to sit there on his "gold mine" and rake it in. They have a show so they are going somewhere or they are gonna show a bunch of fighting and arguing. One way or another we have the rest of the season to find out whats gonna happen.

These are only my thoughts, I spent my last two cents on parts!

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10-31-2011 02:27 AM  6 years agoPost 14
FlytilyaDrop

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I can say from expriance I had a father that did this and gambled all of the familys money into it.
My childhood suffered big time because of it, all my father could think about was how to strike it rich.

In the 18 years I lived with my parents we moved 9 times, school to school and never did I see anything come from every summer heading up into the mountains and shovling dirt all day long.

My dad didnt even learn from the beginning years and continued to keep spending money and getting nothing from it.
My dad kept having dealings with friends and family getting into fights, even having people sue my parents for investing their money and not getting anything in return.

And still my dad kept pushing, he even got to the point to about half the operation size as GOLD RUSH on TV and when I watch it I get sick to my stomach.
Gold fever is just as bad as gambling, drugs, etc.
It messed up my childhood and I feel for any family getting in to doing somthing like this.
When I watch the father with the white beared and how he kept taking about "oh its in their" "where going to hit pay dirt" "I guarentee its in their"............
He is so lost in the head like my dad was that he doesent even know it.
Selling off half the airport etc to keep everything going is only the beginning of what this all causes people who get into this line of stupididy.

I will say if you have the money to throw away, Im talking like millions then dont waste your time.
Its not just the enviromentalist you fight, its the city and states and countys that make it even more hard to take on a project of that kind of size.

Prospecting is a joke unless you have millions to spend and even then money cant buy over an enviromentalist or jerks who just dont want to see someone get gold out of the ground.

This hobby sucks, when your not flying.

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10-31-2011 03:20 AM  6 years agoPost 15
helidevil

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i think freds plan was to let them make idiots of themselvs and go broke digging to the bottom of the glory hole where all the gold is then just about take the claim from them so he can get all the fresh bedrock material without the hassle of digging 70 feet down. he just pulled the biggest buttswipping thing a person can do. that is true evil IMO not cool on his part, i feel sorry for matt and his crew

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11-01-2011 03:11 AM  6 years agoPost 16
hockeysew

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Fred did what is known as a "Double Deal" behind the Hoffman crew. Missed payment or not, he was not straight up with them.

To the folks I know and work with that would be a "ITCOB Event"

I'm jus sayin.................

Liberals are like a "Slinky", useless but entertaining when pushed down stairs....

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11-02-2011 03:00 AM  6 years agoPost 17
Bill F

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My bet is it is all scripted.

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11-02-2011 04:44 AM  6 years agoPost 18
cap231ex

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Yeah the Hoffman crew is a bunch of sappies Fred may be a snake but he saw a chance to get rich and most of all had the money and a plan to do it with , something the Hoffmans had neather of. I think if I were in Freds shoes I would have done the same damn thing , after all it's the American way we as a nation have been doing it for hundereds of years to each other.Just now we make a show out of it and show it to the world on prime time. I think the saddest thing is we all tune in to see a group of guys dig a hole in the ground in hopes of finding gold and call that entertainment.

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11-03-2011 12:58 AM  6 years agoPost 19
03fomoco

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Lawyers
People have to wonder if this is scripted, really? The best read is on the Gold Rush forum on the Discovery site. People get mad and angry over this stuff.

Fred had to make a statement in breech of his contract because of death threats to him. That's just insane, it is a TV show and nothing more. From owner all the way down.

Just take a minute and think about the number of lawyers and paperwork involved in land and real estate. Now add the word GOLD. Nothing is simple and nothing is easy. Just think of all the equipment that went north to a staging area from the off season plot.

One step further, who in there right mind would lease a bunch of land to green horns when there are 1000's of established people with cold hard cash that would want it. Just the fear of a fine or visit from the government would scare the guy to death. The mine across from them got a visit after being on the show and now has to answer a bunch of OSHA and EPA questions. I bet they regret ever signing up for 30 seconds of fame.

Enjoy it for what it is, I like comparing the show to accounts of what really is going on. Like the fact that no one would get water rights on a piece of virgin Alaska in 3 months. Permits are measured in years for that stuff especially now that there is a new form of gold rush.

Saudi and UAE must be just laughing at all this. The dollar is not based on gold anymore, so gold is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Kinda like a house? Anyone remember what happened there?

When something is very heavily advertised, like all the stupid gold infomercials and advertisements on the radio that should be a big red flag.

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11-03-2011 02:47 AM  6 years agoPost 20
PBusch

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Of course its all scripted, all of these shows are. It amazes me that people would even begin to think its all real but that's the power the almighty TV has over people. If its on TV its got to be real

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