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12-13-2011 03:06 AM  5 years agoPost 121
1004ron

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Louisville, KY - USA

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I never questioned the TH part but I see no reason to be in rate mode as it will make no difference on spool up.

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I don't use rate mode at all - just that when in rate mode the tail pitch is centered, and that leads to a handy convenience of having the tail pitch centered just prior to spool up when switching from TH/Rate mode, and that way avoid the heli yaw as the RPM's pick up and tail gets authority, if there was a fair amount of tail pitch at the time.

No, not a necessity, just a personal preference and minuscule convenience.

Goblin 700 AR7200BX / T550E V2 AR7200BX / 450 Pro FBL, GT5

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12-13-2011 03:19 AM  5 years agoPost 122
TMoore

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Cookeville, TN

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I don't use rate mode at all - just that when in rate mode the tail pitch is centered, and that leads to a handy convenience of having the tail pitch centered just prior to spool up when switching from TH/Rate mode, and that way avoid the heli yaw as the RPM's pick up and tail gets authority, if there was a fair amount of tail pitch at the time.

No, not a necessity, just a personal preference and minuscule convenience
My helis don't yaw on spool up and I run the gyros in HH mode all the time unless I'm actually trimming the tail. Never seen the machine yaw on spool up. I'm running Captron Helicommands and I must have missed this one.

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12-13-2011 03:29 AM  5 years agoPost 123
1004ron

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I power up my heli's then walk to the flight line, and of course while carrying it in HH the tail pitch will inevitably run to max in one direction - with the GT5 I make a point of centering the tail pitch before spool up.

If you powered up on the flight line, then of course this step wouldn't be needed.

Goblin 700 AR7200BX / T550E V2 AR7200BX / 450 Pro FBL, GT5

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12-13-2011 03:46 AM  5 years agoPost 124
mrultralite

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abbotsford bc canada

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If i have to use a full Rx then i'm not really interested, too much cost & clutter.

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12-14-2011 07:34 PM  5 years agoPost 125
ady

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hello all , some great info on this thread , which is helping me with my gt5 , anearly xmas pressie , one bit i can not work out is , when i power up , she pops the tail rod link , cos she pushes the tail servo over very hard , i`ve done the A/B setup so when using the tail , it doesn`t bind , what have i done wrong please , ady

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12-14-2011 08:49 PM  5 years agoPost 126
SkyfoxSXer

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Gainseville,VA

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What servo are you running on the tail?

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12-14-2011 08:56 PM  5 years agoPost 127
ady

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A align ds610 , which is all I got at present , worked fine when it was on my 401 futaba , cheers

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12-14-2011 09:05 PM  5 years agoPost 128
SkyfoxSXer

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Gainseville,VA

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I think thats your problem. You need to get a better servo for the tail. There have been reports of the GT-5 doing what you describe with budget tail servos.

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12-14-2011 09:19 PM  5 years agoPost 129
ady

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Got no chance of getting another servo , will pop off the link before I power up , thank you

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12-15-2011 04:46 AM  5 years agoPost 130
rexxigpilot

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Florida

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You probably just need to adjust the limits (step 15 in manual). Also, make sure you selected 1500 Type and 166 Frequency (step 4 in manual) for the DS610.

If you still have links popping off, you may need to get new link ends or adjust the linkage to get rid of any binding.

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12-15-2011 05:12 AM  5 years agoPost 131
bigbadflyer

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Mine actually does the same on start up. I use a DS650 and have all of the correct setting in the GT5. It doesnt pop the link but it does slam the servo over for a split second when turning on.

Does every bodies gt5 move the tail servo on startup??

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12-15-2011 07:27 AM  5 years agoPost 132
ady

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norfolk england

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cool , thanks , i`ll try that tonight , i found a futaba digi servo , non tail servo , and plugged that in just to test , that did not move on power up , i`ll fiddle and let ya know , cheers

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12-15-2011 07:36 AM  5 years agoPost 133
NitroAl

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Gold Coast Aus

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I don't have anything like that going on on start up with a BLS254 and the Torq BL9188 was good too but I wanted that in my 700!

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12-15-2011 09:36 AM  5 years agoPost 134
1004ron

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Louisville, KY - USA

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Does every bodies gt5 move the tail servo on startup??
My tail pitch centers on power up.

Goblin 700 AR7200BX / T550E V2 AR7200BX / 450 Pro FBL, GT5

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12-15-2011 08:30 PM  5 years agoPost 135
ady

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i`ve solved my tail link popping by moving the ball on the tail servo arm in by one hole , i extended the a/b setting to make up for this , the servo still slides over on power up , but doesn`t now pop the link , looking forward to my weekend tests

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12-15-2011 09:13 PM  5 years agoPost 136
bigbadflyer

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My tail pitch centers on power up.
Mine ends up at the center but on initial power up it quickly moves the servo over and then centers it. Its the first movement that annoys me. Interesting to see it doesnt do it on a BLS servo as said above. Its like its the wrong pulse rate for a split second.

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12-18-2011 12:32 PM  5 years agoPost 137
ady

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norfolk england

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my settings at present , two flights today in blizzards

tail -------- swash
p=90 ------- p=70
i=50 -------- i=70
d-sense=0 --------- id=100
db=20 --------- d-sense=25
dma cyclic=60+ (not sure ) ------- feed 85
dma pitch=70+ (not sure) -------- i-lim=18
stop=0 -------- hover=3

agility - 100 on el
127 on aileron

all a/b settings on swash our 200

i`m not sure on the tail dma setting yet as i run out of batts

if i up the d-snse on the tail for a better , harder stop , it makes the heli wag hard
if i remove the tail dead band , that makes the heli tail wag

so 6 test flights now and she be the best

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12-23-2011 01:06 AM  5 years agoPost 138
Superfly851

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VA, USA

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Mine also moves the tail servo to the extreme end on startup for a split second. It does not pop a link so it hasn't been a problem. I'm using the align DS650.

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12-23-2011 04:44 AM  5 years agoPost 139
1004ron

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Louisville, KY - USA

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Mine ends up at the center but on initial power up it quickly moves the servo over and then centers it. Its the first movement that annoys me. Interesting to see it doesnt do it on a BLS servo as said above. Its like its the wrong pulse rate for a split second.
Mine goes from wherever it is at the time of power up, directly to the center - I have the Hitec 5084 servo on the tail of my 450 Pro.

Goblin 700 AR7200BX / T550E V2 AR7200BX / 450 Pro FBL, GT5

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01-12-2012 06:52 AM  5 years agoPost 140
Ravenhyper50

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Canada's Capital

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Has anybody tried it yet or...............

Anybody know if this unit can run in tail mode only for sure?
use on a fly barred machine?

Cheers,
Raven

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