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09-10-2011 02:18 AM  5 years agoPost 1
rwilabee

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La Quinta, CA

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Now that the X-404 has been out for a bit any thoughts on the X-404 vs the Gaui 330SX.

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09-10-2011 03:10 AM  5 years agoPost 2
Dr.Tim

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About the same ... I prefer the 300x

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09-10-2011 03:31 AM  5 years agoPost 3
rwilabee

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Any reasons that you like the Gaui 330SX better.

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09-10-2011 05:52 AM  5 years agoPost 4
Dr.Tim

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A little simplier to setup and longer flight times .. plus the 404 is heavy ...

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09-10-2011 02:29 PM  5 years agoPost 5
rwilabee

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Quad

Do you think the 330X is as stable. I want to purchase one and just don't want to get the wrong one.

Thanks

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09-10-2011 03:28 PM  5 years agoPost 6
Dr.Tim

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The Gaui is about the same .. actually both are a bit small so I built my own .. much more stable .. this is what I have ..
The VC450 frame from here ..
http://www.hoverthings.com/frame-sets.html

The Motors, Props and Speed controls here ...
http://www.quadroufo.com/product_in...accjpj4dthkvh92
(10 4.7 props)
And the Fy91Q Autopilot here ..
http://shop.fyetech.com/index.php
I am also running a 3700 3s pack ..
Dr.Tim

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09-10-2011 03:38 PM  5 years agoPost 7
rwilabee

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Quad

Thanks for the info I will look in to building my own also as I enjoy doing that type of thing. I have built quite a few helis in my day. From kits or spare parts.

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09-10-2011 04:00 PM  5 years agoPost 8
rwilabee

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Quad

I looked at the web sites and I'm definately going to make my own. Looks like they are out of the black frame.

Looks like I should use the BL-2830 motors. Where did you get the bullet prop nuts or did they come with the motor. Does the motor come with the hardware to mount it to the frame or does the frame come with the motor mounting hardware.

Also where did you get the rod and ball to designate the front of the quad.

Thanks

Rich

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09-10-2011 04:17 PM  5 years agoPost 9
MinAirUSA

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The Rotor X carbon fiber frame is far more ridged than the fiberglass 330X.

Miniature Aircraft

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09-10-2011 04:50 PM  5 years agoPost 10
Justin Stuart (passed)

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I want to build my own too because I am interested in learning about the programming of the control board (i.e. doing a little bit of robotics with an open source controller--a good hobby for the winter), but I think I am going to use the MinAir frame instead of one of the competitor's frames. I have held the Gaui 330, Gaui 500, and the MinAir 404 in my hands, and the MinAir 404 has the best most rigid frame. MinAir makes it a point to always use high quality parts. Buy cheap, buy twice.

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09-10-2011 05:55 PM  5 years agoPost 11
Dr.Tim

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Please don't misunderstand me .. The Minair frame is far more substantial and will take a few hard knocks! I was looking at cost.

Rich The Motors come with the bullet prop adapter .. Also all you will need is a 12 to 15 amp esc.

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09-10-2011 06:06 PM  5 years agoPost 12
rwilabee

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quad

I don't see the frame seperately on the Miniature Aircraft website. The ESC's I was looking at were the ones on the site you suggested. They are the HW30A and the motors I saw were the BL-2830-14 750KV

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09-10-2011 06:46 PM  5 years agoPost 13
MinAirUSA

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I don't see the frame seperately on the Miniature Aircraft website.
Here ya go:

http://miniatureaircraftusa.com/ind...emart&Itemid=82

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09-24-2011 05:43 PM  5 years agoPost 14
GyroFreak

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The Minair frame is far more substantial and will take a few hard knocks!
I can verify that due to some really hard crashes. Prop breakage but never any damage to the X404. Of course concrete may cause diffrent results, just stay over none paved areas if your going to dump it.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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09-24-2011 07:27 PM  5 years agoPost 15
skypup

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Wind?

Does the x 404 handle the wind any better than the Gaui?

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09-24-2011 09:34 PM  5 years agoPost 16
packarman2000

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the 404 is great!

now i normally do not reply to anything and i just look and follow up on other threads like this one but for this one i will make the exception!

for a ready/complete build-able kit i think miniature aircraft is simple great! it comes with everything but a receiver, battery and remote, all you have to do is put it together, tune it and fly. i have the 404 and it handles pretty good in any condition. i was flying it yesterday in a pretty windy day and it did great! yes the board is a KK board and i have heard a lot of stories on these boards being crap but this one is pretty good. NO it does not have all the fancy stuff like other boards do such as alt hold,auto stabilize, GPS or anything else like the many others. it is a just pretty simple to use board does not not require having a computer handy to program or a good programming back ground to be able to fly it. but it does handle quite well. they are making another board that has yet to arrive that will have those fancy things but it is not out yet.

i dont have a gaui multi-rotor to compare it with but i have had many different helicopters brands that i have flown and owned and i think miniature aircraft is the best out of all my helis. yes they are a little pricey compared to the rest but just like (justin stuart) says [quote] MinAir makes it a point to always use high quality parts.
[Buy cheap, and you will end up buying twice].
and he is right. i have not had to replace any plastics, bearings, carbon or anything else on any of mine since i got them other than in crashes and that was on me and not them.

i think miniature aircraft beats them all and i have had miniature aircraft stuff for a while and i currently not switch to anything else when i am looking for a good quality flying machine. they have real good quality stuff! and i know that the carbon fiber is good quality because when i first got the 404 and while i was tuning it i lost control of it and it came crashing down and nothing but scratches were the damage. i thought it would have been in pieces but nothing happened. i really like this multi-rotor it's simply great stuff. thanks miniature aircraft!!!

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10-16-2011 10:53 PM  5 years agoPost 17
PaulGT3

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Mammoth Lakes Ca

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I have both. The rotor X is better. The reason why is its stronger with better motors, The guai has 900KV and the rotorX comes with 750s
or something like that.
The fyetech Y 6 is better than both. I have a multiwiicopter scarab on the way for testing. i will let you know.

Either the 330 or the 404 are better by picking your own system to run them on.

One point about the 330 its fragile. I had the 404 turn over and accelerate into the street and only break a prop. I had the 330 hit the grass and disintegrate.
My Friend Doc Tim has built his 330 into a 450 and it looks MUCH stronger than the 330.

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