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09-08-2011 02:59 AM  6 years agoPost 1
MADGUNS

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Kadena AB Japan​(Okinawa)

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At the risk of angering the GMP purest out there. I decided to change up one of my Trex 500s I had sitting around as a parts bird. Since I have never crashed my original Trex I decided to convert it and bash it up with some GMP parts I bought a while back.

Obviously I got the idea from Marcw here on the runryder.

The question was asked. At what point is it no longer a Cricket. My opinion is that its no longer a Cricket when it isn't gas powered, and doesn't have at least 96% of the original parts and recommended equipment.

My project here is to make a hum drum everybody's got one Trex 500 esp look like a GMP Cricket. I love how this thing looks. This should do until I can get a new frame machined for my stockish yellow cricket with integrated electric motor mount.

Happiness is a belt fed weapon

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09-08-2011 04:26 AM  6 years agoPost 2
m4tom

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Looks cool. Nice job..

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09-08-2011 04:56 AM  6 years agoPost 3
tracknoob

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Very nice! I'm usually working from the other side, in; trying to revive the old birds, but I am no purist and love to see stuff like this.

We have various names like "vintage", "clone", repro", etc, and I guess that "bash" or "mash-up" could work, especially since it's YOUR effort, hey -- you get to call it whatever you like!

But to me, the best name for such an effort as yours is "Homage", which Wikipedia says is:

"...a show or demonstration of respect or dedication to someone or something, sometimes by simple declaration but often by some more oblique reference, artistic or poetic..."

Great work!

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09-09-2011 09:23 AM  6 years agoPost 4
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Kadena AB Japan​(Okinawa)

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Thanks for the compliments.

I like that Homage.

Normally I prefer electric to nitro powered but I have been thinking I should make one only nitro powered to fly it around.

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09-09-2011 04:18 PM  6 years agoPost 5
tracknoob

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Hey, making a Nitro bird is fine, but to me, the fact it's electric, and modern, but then looks so darn unique and so beautifully finished, with a styling sensibility from the early days... well, that's exactly the kind of car/motorcycle/helicopter/etc that grabs me right where I live! Again, congrats on your beautiful heli!

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09-09-2011 04:39 PM  6 years agoPost 6
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Homage to the GMP Cricket.

Hey, I think the purist would get upset if you put a heading hold gyro on an original frame, so kudos to you for helping the next generation to see where it all started.

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09-16-2011 03:57 AM  6 years agoPost 7
marcw

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Very Nice!!!

We are starting a new trend here!!

** double-check the position of your canopy relative to the mainshaft. Yours looks a bit too high and too far backwards, but I think that's an optical illusion due to the strut spacing.

I used the cricket bottom frame 90-degree brackets, so the spacing between the struts is Cricket, not Trex 500 spec. The notch on the bottom rear of the Cricket canopy where the rubber band goes should fit right on top of the front strut..

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09-16-2011 04:29 AM  6 years agoPost 8
tracknoob

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Very nice!

These are too cool.....

My own workbench has a more traditional project on it right now, just picked up this Whisper and am about to bring it back up. I will keep original, BUT I also have enough Whisper-related broken bits and pieces around that are dinged up or otherwise not original... Hmmm, wonder what minds would be blown if a FBL Whisper with some real e-power behind it showed up at the field... on this model of course the flimsy frame is a real limiting factor, but there are at least a few things that could be done... again, while not sacrificing too many oem parts...

When is the last time you saw one of these white gears in pretty much unused condition?

(Look at the mating gear angle -- not sure what was going on there - the frame angle, motor mount, etc, is all okay, but that gear is totally warped, teeth look like they've never been run!)

And this one I just put in the back of the closet as-is... Would that not have been a cool sight for a kid on Christmas morning 1990?

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09-16-2011 02:04 PM  6 years agoPost 9
heli_headcase

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(Look at the mating gear angle -- not sure what was going on there - the frame angle, motor mount, etc, is all okay, but that gear is totally warped,
Isn't that main gear installed up-side-down? I don't have a Whisper in front of me to check but I say the gear needs to be flipped over. It's probably warped beyond usefulness by now. Pity...


HHC

So many heli's - too little time...

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09-16-2011 04:07 PM  6 years agoPost 10
tracknoob

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"Isn't that main gear installed up-side-down? "

Of course it is! Haha!

Looking at it a second time, it just jumps right out at you, doesn't it?

I can just imagine the likely poor history of this thing -- assembled carefully, but just could not get it to 'go', frustration, so sits on a shelf a long time (everything on this, including tail blades and skids look unused, unscuffed on bottom, but front broke off from likely 'hanger rash' incident... whole thing is very dusty/dirty). The gear is hopelessly warped, as is the companion gear, but the nearly priceless white one... ah, that looks good, as does the unobtainium pitch slider, and other hard to find parts. The 540 can brushed motor looks like it has barely even been turned.

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09-16-2011 05:32 PM  6 years agoPost 11
ch-47c

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What do you call it a Tricket?

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09-16-2011 06:11 PM  6 years agoPost 12
tracknoob

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"What do you call it a Tricket?"

Or a "C-rex"?

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09-20-2011 03:42 PM  6 years agoPost 13
rcpilotmike

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Now you all have me thinking about joining this band wagon. Instead of a cricket I think I might take one of my parts Rebels and do something with it. I keep everyone posted

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09-21-2011 07:52 AM  6 years agoPost 14
MADGUNS

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Kadena AB Japan​(Okinawa)

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Cool the rebel is neat looking.

Happiness is a belt fed weapon

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09-23-2011 03:18 PM  6 years agoPost 15
marcw

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New Layout Idea

for the Cricket / Rebel e-conversion party....how about a layout like this with the motor up front, and the battery where the engine used to be?

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09-26-2011 04:01 AM  6 years agoPost 16
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Dang dude,

I think that's a great Idea. Might be allot easier to come up with a motor mount that way.

That gives me some good Ideas. One being you could have a gutted IC engine with nothing in it but a crankshaft all hooked up to the stock drive unit. LOL.

It would look like a gas helicopter until it spun up

Heck you could even carve out an engine out of balsa wood for the looks with less weight.

Happiness is a belt fed weapon

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09-26-2011 12:14 PM  6 years agoPost 17
GMPheli

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I am wondering if the bevel gears would be up to the task

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09-26-2011 12:48 PM  6 years agoPost 18
v22chap

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Granger, Indiana

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Kyosho concept was driven quite well with a bevel gear ... but you might have to put in another counter gear like they did in your system to gear it down enough

Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters

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10-01-2011 08:40 PM  6 years agoPost 19
rcpilotmike

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GroveCity, Ohio, USA

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OK need some ideas or help here. If I start this Rebel project what size motor would be a good choice. Rebel was originally designed for a .40 size engine. A motor for a 600 size heli I think would be to much and a 500 maybe to small. Plus it be nice to use just 1 batt pack, a 6c. Any thoughts???

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10-03-2011 04:17 AM  6 years agoPost 20
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Kadena AB Japan​(Okinawa)

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A 500 sized helicopter motor will have more than enough power. Just got to make sure the pinion is as small as you can get it. If a rebels drive gear is anything like a cricket its small compared to todays drive gears.

Also on my e-conversion cricket, the 500 motor is great but I used a 4 cell battery. On the rebel you should be good with 5 or 6S no problem.

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