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11-30-2011 07:37 PM  5 years agoPost 101
Clarence Creer

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Next week? Tower updated the date to late December.

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12-01-2011 07:40 AM  5 years agoPost 102
poerQwa

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He lives in Europe, Robbe already has the 18mz on stock

https://www.robbe.de/robbe/search/?...x=40&submit.y=9

Edit:
Just checked and now they also say that first delivery is week 52.

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12-06-2011 04:23 AM  5 years agoPost 103
Four Stroker

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https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...22&fcc_id=';AZPR7008SB-24G'

FCC Test Report on the R7008SB FASSTest receiver is up. Can't be long now.

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12-06-2011 12:53 PM  5 years agoPost 104
maxw

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Hi

Does this mean the R7008SB Receiver is going to be a dedicated receiver for the 18MZ? does any body know?

Just reading the manual it says put transmitter into link mode never had to do this on futaba befor? unless im reading it wrong?

1 Bring the transmitter and the receiver close to each other,
within 20 inches (half meter).
2 Turn on the transmitter. Place the transmitter into the receiver
linking mode.
3 Turn on the receiver.
4 The receiver will wait for the linking process to begin for 2
seconds. Following that it will return to the normal operation
mode.
5 When the LED of the receiver changes from blinking red to
solid green, linking is complete.
(A link waiting state is ended in 1 second.)

also will all other fasst receivers work ok on the futaba 18MZ?

can anyone help with this please?

Thanks

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12-06-2011 01:02 PM  5 years agoPost 105
DougV

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Yes, all FASST, Futaba FHSS and S-FHSS air receivers will work with the 18MZ.
For now, only the 18MZ will work with the R7008SB receiver until Futaba updates/upgrade the 8FG, 12 and 14 channels transmitters with the FASSTest protocol.

-Doug.

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12-06-2011 01:20 PM  5 years agoPost 106
DougV

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Look at this pic from the 18MZ, the TX will record the rx’s ID for telemetry purposes. You can also see the protocols available.

-Doug.

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12-06-2011 02:30 PM  5 years agoPost 107
Skaluf

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The 18MZ has the ability to link with the R7008SB receiver without pushing the Easy Link button on the receiver. You initiate this process at the transmittre. DougV posted that screen.

Also, the 18MZ has the ability to use two R7008SB receivers at the same time. One can operate as channels 1-8 and the other 9-16 in the PWM mode. While not all that needed for helicopters, it works great for large aircraft. This allows you to run 16 channels and split the aircraft down the middle with the flight control system.

Steve

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12-06-2011 03:36 PM  5 years agoPost 108
knightofcarnage

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Hey what is the deal with the extra power on the receiver. It states that the receiver can handle up to 70V but at what current?

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12-06-2011 03:45 PM  5 years agoPost 109
Four Stroker

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That's not power for the RX. That is the sensor input from the 12S flight pack for telemetry. Correct Steve ?

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12-06-2011 04:21 PM  5 years agoPost 110
Skaluf

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Right, using the optional connector you simply tap off your drive packs and plug them into this port on the receiver. The voltage is then displayed on the main screen of the 14MZ along with the receiver pack voltage.

No current from them is passed through this, it is only for picking up the voltage display.

Steve

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12-06-2011 05:14 PM  5 years agoPost 111
maxw

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Thanks for your reply

so does this mean that linking up to the R7008SB with an 18MZ on a set model and using another R7008SB in another model will have diffent codes?

ie you cant get mixed up on models anymore? and try fly your model having selected the wrong model in the radio

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12-07-2011 01:28 AM  5 years agoPost 112
GetToDaChopper

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Here's what the RX that comes with the 18MZ looks like, it's the R7008SB SBus2 FASSTest Receiver.

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12-09-2011 03:49 PM  5 years agoPost 113
nap_tan

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I am now officially transmitterless until the 18MZ arrives. Pretty excited!

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12-09-2011 04:21 PM  5 years agoPost 114
wjvail

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Here is a question I hadn't considered until yesterday... Maybe someone can help...

Can I use the telemetry apparently included in the new 18MZ for programming mixes?

An example may help with this question. The other day I was flying my Hanger 9 Ultra Stick 1.20 Lite. With this model the flaps require a down elevator mix and the faster the plane flies, the more down it needs. I've put together a workable fix by mixing down elevator with throttle (assumes that more throttle -> more speed) but this is only a patch. Obviously in the case of a touch-and-go for instance, there is a time when the plane is at full throttle and yet just above stall speed... What I really need, and what many real airplanes do, is make a mix speed-implies-down. The 767 I fly begins to lock out the outboard ailerons as speed increases to prevent wing twist.

Another example: I can see a time that instead of switching to low rates for high speed flight we would mix AFV with telemetry speed. As a turbine or pylon model accelerates to 200+ mph the control throws required for safe takeoff and landing would be reduced for smooth flight at speed.

An example for the heli folks... Helicopters are quite sensitive to density altitude. Flying at 7,000 not only reduces engine performance but also reduced rotor system performance. With telemetry we could read altitude and temperature and could, in theory, calculate a pressure. Knowing this we could set up a mix that would limit collective pitch at higher altitudes. Say at sea-level we could run +/-12 deg pitch but at 7,000ft we would be able to automatically program a mix to limit this to +/-10 deg.... Might be useful for traveling to contests.

Is there any indication that the new 18 is capable of doing anything more with the telemetry data than just display it? Can I use it as an operator for programing? Displaying telemetry data alone is cool enough but using the data for flight performance is (would be) out of the box cool!

Bill

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12-10-2011 06:41 AM  5 years agoPost 115
GetToDaChopper

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Wow thats a great question !

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12-10-2011 01:47 PM  5 years agoPost 116
filou406

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I asked the same question some pages before in this topic but nobody answered. In fact for example with heli if the gyro detects a very high spin speed and no action with the stick that means that something is broken and you must cut the engine very quickly to save the heli. Why not having a program which do it alone and fast ?

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12-10-2011 02:11 PM  5 years agoPost 117
Ace Dude

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Great idea, but most modelers have trouble setting up a basic mix. Radio programming via sensor feedback would be very cool, but there could also be many unforeseen consequences that would also need to be taken into consideration during developing such a response to sensor feedback. I could be wrong, but most likely, the liability is far too great to implement something like this.

  

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12-10-2011 02:36 PM  5 years agoPost 118
wjvail

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Great idea, but most modelers have trouble setting up a basic mix. Radio programming via sensor feedback would be very cool, but there could also be many unforeseen consequences that would also need to be taken into consideration during developing such a response to sensor feedback. I could be wrong, but most likely, the liability is far too great to implement something like this.
I considered this and wondered myself how many people could and would use this. I would, but I'll admit I've known people that have flown a 9Z for a decade and can't set up a mix and the concept of conditions and what they can do for you is lost. Also, it would be a little scary setting up a flight law that changes a characteristic of the aircraft based on a sensor input.

I personally would still love to see it. I don't know how long we will look at the models telemetry fuel level, know that as the fuel burn off the CG moves aft therefore becoming more pitch sensitive, and nose down trim is required, without wanting to do something with the information. As another example.

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12-10-2011 04:06 PM  5 years agoPost 119
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As far as I can tell right now the 18MZ cannot use the information from the telemetry sensors. All it does is report the information.

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12-10-2011 04:11 PM  5 years agoPost 120
Four Stroker

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Come on guys ! Have you been watching Star Trek or something ?

Phaedrus, Have you heard what the telemetry rate is ? It certainly does not need to be 50 Hz like the uplink.

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