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08-07-2011 04:10 AM  6 years agoPost 1
raptornoob

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Help Help Please i need to find quick .18 tail shaft thanks

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08-07-2011 06:26 AM  6 years agoPost 2
Gamb

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Huh?
Do you mean the tail boom? The hollow tube that leads to the tail case within which the tail belt runs; or are you talking about the tail rotor push-rod? I don't think they made a shaft driven tail for the Quickheli Quickie 18. In any case, just go right to the source at http://www.quickheli.com or e-mail Irwin or Jon (their e-mail address is listed on their site). If you can figure out what exactly you need, they can usually get it for you.

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08-07-2011 02:26 PM  6 years agoPost 3
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it looks like this.......i call it a tail shaft,, What it called???
it looks like this.......i call it a tail shaft,, What it called???
quick website dont show it....or im blind

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08-07-2011 03:30 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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Quick part # is QT557, I'll check on it tomorrow for
ya, okey dokey?
gonk

Is this fun or what :)......

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08-08-2011 12:01 AM  6 years agoPost 5
Gamb

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Sorry, my mistake. The picture really helped. You are correct, it is the tail output shaft. Which model do you have exactly? Do you have the manual?

This is the part number: QT557 Standard Tail Output Shaft

This is the link for the parts look up grid, unfortunately, not any pictures of parts:

http://www.quickworldwide.com/Part_...Part_Lookup.htm

If you look at the insturction page, you may be able to find the specific instruction manual for your model, and there are usually lots of pictures with "blown up" diagrams with all the parts identified.

http://www.quickheli.com/instructions.asp

Most of the QuickHeli line uses very similar parts, and several models use the same one. Contact Jon at jon@quickworldwide.com and he will have the parts out right away. The parts are not too expensive, but the shipping can add up. I would suggest ordering a few for future use. Make sure you don't need anything else like tail blades, etc.

Gamb

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08-08-2011 02:42 AM  6 years agoPost 6
raptornoob

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thanks for all the help
its a great looking heli, i dont want the tail to crash her....im still a noob....i need it to be my fault if i crash,,,not the bird..thanks

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08-08-2011 02:34 PM  6 years agoPost 7
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GIVE HIM SOME HELP
Re: quick 18 tail shaft

[img]http://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/rr/rrpw.htm?p=5315666&i=4[/img]

Hi Quick Worldwide
i bought the quickie .18 used from somone on RR and it has the bent shaft, cracked vertical fin, and cracked shroud...but i will restore her, BUT can i ask you a question...i had to add my radio, and for the life of me could not get it to lift off, so using the Quickie .15 manual, i check all rod lengths and i dont know how he got it to fly, but they where 20mm off, i couldnt get more than 8 degree pitch,(thats why at full throttle, it just sat on the ground whinning,)he said it flew great, but i dont know how. so following the .15 manual, i reset the rods, with 90 degree servo arms, and now she lifts off, but the rods where twisted so tight, i think i will replace them..(they seem loose), but is there a manual on the .18, or is the 15 manual good, ...OH! im a noob, but i noticed that the vertical fin is an accident waiting to happen, it starts to twist towards blades while in flight, my 450 fin attaches to the tail box...but thats the only flaw, But it could be caused by the bent shaft, and maybe a little ca wouldnt hurt.. thanks for any info, i dont see many vids for this bird, im going to make 1 once i know she will fly without incident...thanks again

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08-08-2011 04:58 PM  6 years agoPost 8
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My first piece of advice for ANY noob is............
There is no need to try doing things and learning things on your own.... Although many have, there are a LOT of very capable pilots out there that would be willing to get together with you and lend you a hand in going over your machine and helping you understand how to properly set up your machine given your level of proficiency.....

In other words, no need to re-invent the wheel !! Go to your local hobby shop to find out where the heli guys hang out and go pay them a visit.

Secondly, I see that the Quickie 18 is still supported by QWW in the parts department. If you don't have a manual, ask Irwin where you can download it so that you have a parts reference and assembly instructions.....

Best of luck with your project !

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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08-09-2011 12:51 AM  6 years agoPost 9
Gamb

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Have to agree with Juan. A good heli person close at hand is worth ... a lot of crashes! But, it is possible to learn on your own, but at a much slower pace.

As for the pitch problem, you may just need to start from scratch and make sure everything on the machine mechanically and everything on the radio are set up correctly. Don't go too much by the lenght of the push rods. They are a starting point only. QuickHeli has a good section on how to set up the head to get the maximum pitch range, which applies to almost all their helis.

This their way of setting up a CCPM head. You have to read the instructions a few times over before it sinks in, but once it does, it is quite logical.

http://www.quickheli.com/helisetup/helisetup.htm

This is their link for setting up the radio.

http://www.quickheli.com/CCPMSetup.htm

Hope this helps.

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08-11-2011 03:22 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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sorry about that....is there a way to transport this to other post
i did talk to gamb about stuff...and he can print it, thats what we are here for RIGHT? if we can move this post with the other 1 thats fine...i screwwed up...
about people around who fly...im in worcester mass, and i havent found any help, most of the hobbies store are closed and the ones that are dont do helis....i did find a guy on another fourum, and i email him and havent heard back,
when at first i got it , the servo rods where to short to get the right positive pitch, then i still would just lift off, so i noticed excessive oil from the muffler, so i clicked the jet 4 times, now she hovers and lifts, but if you full throttle, she starts to bog...so i not sure if i should close it any more(jet) oh and lots of smoke,, but like i said the owner used 30% i got 15% for now, and i have a case of 25%
thanks for any help

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08-11-2011 04:59 PM  6 years agoPost 11
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Looks like you might have to sort this out on your own if no help is available but I would still continue to look for someone within an hour drive that is willing to help you..... Try posting in the "Main Discussion" section saying where you live and ask if there are any heli pilots close by (1 hr radius)..... I would be surprised if you don't get a bunch of folks responding....

Anyhow, the "bogging" issue you are having when you punch the throttle may be due to having too much pitch in your setup.... Do you know what your pitch range is ?? Zero degrees center stick ??

If you don't have a pitch guage to measure what you have you should consider getting one. You can "eyeball" things to a certain degree but if you're off significantly, it could make the rest of the tuning an issue.....

The other thing, what proficiency level are you at ?? Can you maintain a sustained full throttle punchout and climb out a couple of hundred feet and bring it back in one piece ???

Doing these full throttle climbouts can tell a lot about the motor tuning.....

Lastly, Finless "Bob" at Helifreak is an excellent source of information and has taken the time to post a good number of videos related to heli building/setup....

First go here:

http://www.helifreak.com/

Then:

Go here and check out the different videos under this subject heading:

Finless Bob's HeliFreak Tech Room

and also check out this topic:

Newbies: Tips and info

You'll need to do a simple "registration" process much the same you did for RunRyder in order to view the videos (I believe)....

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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08-12-2011 12:24 AM  6 years agoPost 12
Gamb

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Have to agree, Finless Bob's videos are a great resource.

Unfortunately, as I mentioned before, I don't do nitro's, so can't help with motor issues. Even if I did, it would be hard to help via this forum. Need hands on evaluation.

Did you get the parts you need from Quickheli?

Good luck, hope you find some good help.

Gamb

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08-12-2011 02:59 AM  6 years agoPost 13
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i finally looked
hy guys
i need a manual for a TOKI .18 motor.....can anyone help, and also if this motor is tired (god forbid) where do you get a .18 heli motor

thanks for all the help

and nothing against finless his vids show the bird flying and alot of bla bla bla....not good for noob...i didnt even see a motor, and its supposed to be nitro tuning 101....
i have watched alot of finless movies, even when i built my 450, his vids are for more advance flyers, my first radio 6ch cost 34.00 dollars, the radio he uses is a JR 9303, where in its time was about 1000.00 so there is a little diffence...so i found alot of youtube vids that where more helpful to me...BUT thats my opinion, and i know BOB help thousands of people, but when i first started, it sounded like bob was talking a different language....like i said my opinion,What we need is a vid, of a motor...out of the box, bench break it in, install it in a heli, the turn jets and screws will in the bird.and set throttle and pitch curves..thats what i think...
i dont want to get anyone mad ....Just my opinion..

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08-12-2011 03:26 AM  6 years agoPost 14
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OK guys....you can watch a boring vid of the Quickie 18
Hey guys made a vid today and its finnally up...tell me what you think is wrong, ive dialed the jets played with curves...i dont know, and she seems not to go thru a full tank she bogs and stalls...im assuming she is getting hot...i dont know, but i wont give up, i wish i could find a TOKI 18 manual so i could start all over with the motors setting...ill keep trying

Watch at YouTube

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08-12-2011 03:52 AM  6 years agoPost 15
Gamb

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Ray Hostetler has a good book and videos. The videos are not free, and they come as DVD's, which are relatively expensive, but I think they are worth it. He has several DVD's, covering different topics, such as blade balancing, engine tuning, etc. You could just buy the ones you need. The book (Ray's Authoritative Helicopter Manual (RCM Anthology Library Series)) would be a good choice, since it has a lot about tuning and setting up the nitro motor.

Here are a few reviews:
http://hoversideways.com/2008/01/11...er-dvds-review/
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=10025

Here are a few links to the DVD's
http://www.ronlund.com/rcheli/MISCDVD.html
http://www.helicoptersonly.com/contents/en-us/d116.html

Gamb

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08-12-2011 12:56 PM  6 years agoPost 16
raptornoob

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Anyone Know the settings on the TOKI 18 carbs
settings on the TOKI 18 carbs

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08-12-2011 05:20 PM  6 years agoPost 17
Quick Worldwide

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Hi Quick Worldwide now does that matter what % nitro you use....or is that the starting point....ca i want to finish off a bottle of 15%, and then i will start on my case of 25%...so ill have to do it again...
is it possible to scan that manual??, or is the 15 or 25 manual the same...??? thanks for all the help...i got to get the correct pitch and throttle curves, maybe thats whats bogging her

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08-13-2011 05:19 PM  6 years agoPost 18
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i dont want to get anyone mad ....Just my opinion..
No worries here.... I agree that Bob likes to talk a lot but overall, his videos have been very helpful like you say "to thousands".... Perhaps when you become more proficient, you can produce and post some videos which will benefit others......

Remember that learning something new and more technical like helis will require an learning and ajusting period regarding the language and terminology used.... it takes time but you will learn it. You need to know what things are called so that you can ask your questions folks will know what you are talking about.... case in point, your initial question.... you didn't know the name of the part you were asking about and no one else did initial until we "guessed" it was the "tail rotor output shaft".......

Anyhow, I've had a chance to look at your video and here are a few things I can comment on......

First and most important is SAFETY !! When you start the heli you MUST have your hand firmly holding the head !! There was much time when you were dicking around with the machine running and the head was left "unsecure"..... You really need to drill a hole in the canopy so that you can pass the starting shaft through the canopy and into the coupler to start your motor... That way you can have a firm grip on the head should the motor accidentally start at less than idle.....

Please don't tell me that this will never happen to you as I know someday it will , it happens to all of us at one point or another newby or not !! And please don't tell me that your canopy is too "pretty" to drill a hole through it...... Do it !! All of us do so that you don't have to dick around with putting the thing on with the motor running and head not being held securely......

In my opinion, your motor is running too lean...... when you give it gas to climb and the machine just settles instead, the sound the motor makes indicates to me that it is "sagging"..... ie, too lean.

You may have hit the nail on the head that perhaps the motor has seen its better days..... going from 15 to 25 % nitro will not significantly improve the performace even on a good running motor....

"Wind pushing the machine down" ????? On the contrary, when a wind gust comes up, that improves lift and thus the machine would have a tendency to balloon a little (go up). Again, the machine settling issue is either your motor running too lean (based on the sound) or the motor being very worn and unable to produce power........

I had a comment about your "blinking gyro" but will have to see your video again. Don't have time right now.

That's all for now.....

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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08-13-2011 05:39 PM  6 years agoPost 19
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.18 toki tuning...you will probably have better luck in rcgroups.com or rcuniverse.com car section.

as for local help...look here
https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/...?top=1313253547

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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08-13-2011 06:23 PM  6 years agoPost 20
Quick Worldwide

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I have emailed with raptornoob already, the starting position on the needle is 2 3/4T according to the manual.

Sincerely,
Jon Yuhas
QWW

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