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08-03-2011 02:59 PM  6 years agoPost 1
eppler

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Baytown, TX

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iI am thinking of getting a G20 heli because most of the upgrades I just bought for my 50NX will fit and was wondering if the gasser engines have the hole for futaba rpm sensor and if they will make the living room smell like gas if work on it inside?

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08-03-2011 05:24 PM  6 years agoPost 2
fastflyer20

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Use white gas also known as camper fuel or Coleman fuel in place of gas, it smells nice...

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08-03-2011 06:06 PM  6 years agoPost 3
Azalin

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Is there any online dealer that sells Coleman fuel?

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08-03-2011 07:40 PM  6 years agoPost 4
GREYEAGLE

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Sorry Guy's I just had to come to the Pic a Nic
For some reason you should invest in John Morrell all Beef Premium Weiner's as those are the Best along with Nathen's Hot Dogs'

Ive' been running the stuff for around four years and every time you fire up that camp stove fuel your' gona get, and every one else is gona get, a hankering for a hot Dog'

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08-03-2011 09:07 PM  6 years agoPost 5
RM3

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Zenoahs (gas engines) do not have a hole for the RPM sensor to pick up the magnet like nitros do. They do have a mount for a sensor but it is used to trigger the ignition. most Use a Stator Gator to tie into the Electronic Ignition to trigger the Governor.

Camper fuel is cleaner than gasoline, none of the guys I know in my area use it cause they claim there is a slight power difference compared to say 93 octane...especilly during the hot summer months, I have not tried it.

Ordering ocoleman fuel online? Why? you can buy it nearly everywhere, hell my Walmart and My Local Grocery store sells it.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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08-03-2011 10:25 PM  6 years agoPost 6
lejon

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uhhhh
RM3 notice where he is? Probably no Walmart there.

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08-03-2011 11:47 PM  6 years agoPost 7
fastflyer20

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Just wait there will be, Walmart is taking over the World.

Yes, I get teased too about hotdog time. How come I always leave the flying field hungry....

+1 on stator gator, I could not get a consistant signal from two different sensors, stator gator fixed that.

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08-04-2011 01:52 AM  6 years agoPost 8
RM3

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Yes yur right about Walmart,

But "Coleman" is a brand name not a fuel type. Im sure if you look in the right place "White" gas as it is somtimes called can be found.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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08-04-2011 03:26 AM  6 years agoPost 9
sps3172

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Coleman 'White Gas' = Naptha

Right?

That might be easier to find for him.

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08-04-2011 03:57 AM  6 years agoPost 10
Carey Shurley

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Orlando, FL - USA

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MSDS Label

PRODUCT NAME: Calumet Lantern Fuel (Coleman)
PRODUCT CODE: 0170-00
CHEMICAL NAME: Light Hydrotreated Distillate
CAS NUMBER: 68410-97-9
CHEMICAL FAMILY: Petroleum Hydrocarbon Naphtha
CHEMICAL FORMULA: C5-C9

2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS

INGREDIENT NAME
EXPOSURE LIMITS
CONCENTRATION
PERCENT BY VOLUME
Light Hydrotreated Distillate
CAS NUMBER: 68410-97-9
Petroleum Distillate (Naphtha)
TWA-400ppm

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08-04-2011 04:44 AM  6 years agoPost 11
turboomni

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and if they will make the living room smell like gas if work on it inside?
i don't have my gassers in the living room but I do have them in the basement and my wife travels through there to to do stuff ans has never complained. I run gas and always purge the carb and all fuel from the heli when I am done flying. No complaints. I am no expert but the alcohol in fuel these days has been a cause of concern for our Walbro carbs. I have a Hanson 26cc since 2007 with no problems. I don't know if it is because I leave no fuel in the carb and tank or not.
But so far no problems on either front.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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08-09-2011 05:15 PM  6 years agoPost 12
bwarkent

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Houston Tx

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Eppler, just noticed you are in the Houston area. There are several gasser pilots in the area. Shoot me a PM if you need local support.

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08-12-2011 04:00 AM  6 years agoPost 13
turboomni

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Walmart is taking over the World.
Walmart = China in many respects,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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08-12-2011 07:32 AM  6 years agoPost 14
RM3

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China = 90% of everything on our Helis nowadays...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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08-12-2011 01:02 PM  6 years agoPost 15
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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I would say not 90%
China = 90% of everything on our Helis nowadays...
Depends on what heli you are flying, some are 100% chinese but not all for sure!!

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4196 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3272 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1540 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 380 flts

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08-12-2011 02:14 PM  6 years agoPost 16
Pistol Pete

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Seffner, FL

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I run gas and always purge the carb and all fuel from the heli when I am done flying. No complaints. I am no expert but the alcohol in fuel these days has been a cause of concern for our Walbro carbs.
I read somewhere that you should leave some fuel in tank in order to avoid anything drying.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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08-12-2011 06:11 PM  6 years agoPost 17
turboomni

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I read somewhere that you should leave some fuel in tank in order to avoid anything drying.
I have read that too but in my case that was not an option.
So even in the summer and the heli is in a garage I still purge the carb. 4 years later and all is well.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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08-13-2011 05:54 AM  6 years agoPost 18
RM3

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Ive noticed when I leave gas in the tank and carb, when I start her up after she sits in the garage for a while the engine smokes a bit much for a 2 - 3 minutes. Then I realized that leaving fuel in the system causes the gas to evaporate and leave high amounts of oil behind in the system. Now I purge by running it till it runs dry and dies. I figure there is enough oil residue left behind to protect the engine/carb for a week or two without flying. now I don't have as bad a smoke problem.

Also thats a good point about China...Is there any such thing as a 100% made in America RC heli? Consider that the manufacturing tooling (CNCs and computers that run them and manual lathes/Mills used), raw materials (Carbon Fiber, Aluminum, bearings, Electronics, Lipos)come from over seas...I think its more along the lines of "Assembled in America" rather than made in America.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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08-18-2011 08:31 AM  6 years agoPost 19
charlieoneseven

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Huntington Beach, Ca. USA

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I keep mine in the house and had to put a stopper on the exhaust pipe that keeps most of the smell contained in the pipe and the choke closed.
If it is stored during the winter do you guys take the carb apart and clean out the rubber seals or something? I remember the gas boat guys complained about the primer bulbs but I don't have one of those.

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08-18-2011 11:48 AM  6 years agoPost 20
Carey Shurley

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Orlando, FL - USA

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well, living in Florida there isn't much issue in flying all winter but as a practice I don't leave significant fuel in the carb at all.

Using the primer bulb I pump it dry after the last flight

Lots of discussion especially from the airplane boards about whether or not this is a good thing but gasoline is no longer gasoline, it is a blend of ethanol and additives that vary depending on where you live and what season of the year it is.

from my dissection of one of these, you can see there are lots of little ports and orifices that can get particles in them

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