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07-18-2011 06:15 PM  6 years agoPost 1
Chuck Bole

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Anybody seen any pics of this?
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjg2Njg5ODI0.html
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07-18-2011 06:51 PM  6 years agoPost 2
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07-20-2011 11:51 PM  6 years agoPost 3
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Pics end of next week, when canopy is ready, currently mold work is running.

There is already a small clip in the net that you can google.

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07-22-2011 07:28 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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What are all these rumors about? A new helicopter from Minicopter? An upgrade of Joker 3 or 3DD?

By the way, what happened to the photo bird about to come out from minicopter almost a year ago?

:-) Thomas



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07-23-2011 09:06 PM  6 years agoPost 5
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Thomas, this is no upgrade

JokerCAM I am just working on, also ready for IRCHA. It will get many parts from the Diabolo, so I was forced to freeze this model for several months. And DJI has modified the autopilot (AceONE) for it, so it is much easier to place now. But this is another topic.

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07-25-2011 07:41 AM  6 years agoPost 6
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So, what is "Minicopter Diabolo"? In another thread here on Runryder (https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t651286p3/) I can see that two guys are using it for doing speed records!

:-) Thomas



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07-29-2011 09:48 PM  6 years agoPost 7
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Hi Thomas,

this is a new helicopter.

The first Video is online now on Youtube.

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07-29-2011 10:32 PM  6 years agoPost 8
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Watch at YouTube

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07-30-2011 01:03 AM  6 years agoPost 9
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Nice..
Thanks for posting..
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07-30-2011 02:13 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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Looks promising. Any close-up pics coming ?

Life is meaningful flying helis.

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07-30-2011 10:44 PM  6 years agoPost 11
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Yes, asap

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08-03-2011 06:11 AM  6 years agoPost 12
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Found these pics of the diabolo looks cool

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08-05-2011 07:34 AM  6 years agoPost 13
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The website was updated with the infos on the Diabolo.

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08-05-2011 07:50 AM  6 years agoPost 14
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"Automatic belt tension over oil-pressure shock absorbers with adjustable spring rate"
Cool!

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08-05-2011 02:37 PM  6 years agoPost 15
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Look cool, but give me some reasons to sell my Joker 3 (without electronics) and buy a Joker Diabolo kit.



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08-05-2011 04:45 PM  6 years agoPost 16
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The J3 was designed as a utility heli that can 3D.

The diabolo is a 3d heli that is taylored for speed.

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08-05-2011 04:46 PM  6 years agoPost 17
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I plan on having both...2 very unique machines. I love my 3dd and ill love my diabolo

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08-06-2011 05:58 AM  6 years agoPost 18
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So how fast can it go. Could be tempted to sell my Joker 3 (not my Joker 3DD which I really like a lot) and buy the Diabolo.

What is a super setup?

:-) Thomas



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08-07-2011 04:16 AM  6 years agoPost 19
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14S set up

Can it be set up as a 14S? I have my Joker 2 set up with a Pyro motor and a Power Jazz with 7S 4200's x' 2. I would consider upgrading if I can transfer my electronics.
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08-07-2011 10:40 AM  6 years agoPost 20
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This info comes from Mercuriell at archeli,
thankyou.
Here's the story and specs

Diabolo

The story

As promised, the supply of spare parts of the first Joker was continued until the end of 2010. This first mechanics still enjoys great popularity. Over time, many requests were brought to my attention, to create a modernized machanics of the Joker 1. The concept of two-stage gear transmission with belt-driven tail has proved to be extremely reliable. So it made sense, parallel to the Joker 3 to create a 3D specialists, of which the performance standard is still something layered on top of the Joker.
The construction began in spring 2010 under the largest secrecy, since it simply does work better when no one knows about. So an intensive testing was possible for several months, during which many small changes have been included into the design. Such a large model requires a stabilization period, during which possible errors can be eliminated systematically.

Why "Diabolo"?

A diabolo is a toy with which you can show tricks after some practice, like a 3D heli. A diabolo is however also a rifle-bullet for target shooting, which can be equated with speed flying. When the canopy was completed, a friend was present at the model aircraft field and he has a spontaneous third meaning when we looked at these: "That's the devil!" Anyone who even looks at the canopy closely will certainly discover what he means. This detail is to prevent the tearing of the hood in the area of the aileron servos by frequent removal, even apart, the hood fits impeccably into the Joker family. However, it is now more acute than in the front of its predecessor, clearly a few inches higher, and also with 118 mm at the widest point narrower.

Flightperformance

If you see the model fly for the first time as an experienced pilot, the thick tail pipe immediately catches your eye. This is also at great distances or fast maneuvers extremely well perceived by the eye and gives the diabolo almost the appearance of a model with a fuselage. 112g light through the tail pipe in conjunction with the equally light tail rotor, very high rotation rates are achieved at the tail. Most striking however is the enormous bandwidth of the Diabolo. It can be flown with a slow turning motor or flown with a power engine to the limits.

Technical data

Rotor diameter: 1,56 to 1,68m (Blade length:690-750mm)
Weight with 12s/5000: 4,8-5,2 kg
2-stage gear, helical spur gear
Gear ratio 1st stage: 1:3,1 bis 1:4,13
Gear ratio 2nd stage: 1: 3,17
Belt driven tail rotor
Tail gear ratio 1,5:1
Tail rotor diameter: 290-300 mm
Length with canopy: 1,38 m
Length without canopy: 1,27 m
Height: 39 cm
Landing gear width: 22 cm
Tail boom diameter: 30 mm
Hanging battery for high COG
Battery tray: 68(74)mm high, 64 mm width
Automatic belt tension over oil-pressure shock absorbers with adjustable spring rate

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