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› Would an 8S Fusion still susceptible to tail gear strip
08-01-2011 04:54 PM  6 years agoPost 41
JohnThompson

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I said "slop" in reference to the shims mentioned earlier in this thread.

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08-01-2011 04:56 PM  6 years agoPost 42
Jag72

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South of Boston

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TT gears

I have been flying the Fusion alot lately with VERY good luck..

it's flying AMAZINGLY well on 6s

the Front TT gears are actually a bit tight..not loose at all.no need for shims....I have been flying the Fusion with a little less piro stuff than normal so as not to melt the gears and it seems to be working.

Unfortunately for me I was practicing the mid move piro reversal stuff today and hard shut down (overamped) my Jive 100 LV at about 40 feet..so I had a bit of a rough landing

Funny thing is that the TT gears and tail gears all look peferctly fine after the crash landing..

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08-02-2011 06:55 AM  6 years agoPost 43
Seth Killian

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mesa, arizona, usa

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I have read many threads about this gear stripping issue. i have not ordered this kit yet but i want to.

So will i need semi-tight main gear Mesh, and semi tight on the tail as well? or semi loose on the tail?
i want to fly
12S
560kv scoprian motor
hobbywing 100hv
fullsize vbar 5.1
nrg 6sX2 3300mah packs.

i also want to use torque servos w/ life rx pack straight into vbar, can this be done? what would i need to plug my rx pack into vbar to power torque hv servos?

does anyone know if the TT gear stripping is due to loose gears or tight gears?

should i not run the hobbywing gov, and use only vbar gov?

Sorry for so many questions. i really want to know what to do before i get the kit next week.

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08-02-2011 01:15 PM  6 years agoPost 44
darkfa8

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Brick, NJ - USA

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Seth,

Determining the gear mesh has to be on a per model basis. So, you're not going to know what, if any adjusting you'll have to do until you have your model assembled.

You can run a LifePO4 receiver pack directly into your radio system. You would need a adapter wire to go from the battery connector to 2 servo plugs.

The gear stripping is a result of the current gear material not being strong enough to handle how some people fly and/or 12s setups. Outrage is aware of these complaints and is working on it.

The Hobbywing gov is pretty decent, or you could use the VBar gov. Try both, see which you like better.

- Dan Goldstein
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08-02-2011 03:05 PM  6 years agoPost 45
Jag72

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South of Boston

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Seth--

That exactly the setup I was running on 12s before going back down to 6s

I was running the vbar 5.1 governor with the hobbywing 120AHV

and 3300mah 45c packs..it was a monster but I did have gear strip issues.

I played around with the front TT gear mesh last night and they are pretty tight already..there just isn't enough room for a shim..I tried a .5mm shim and the gears were WAY TOO TIGHT..

I think the heli is fine the way it is except for the gear stripping of the front TT gears..

One thing that JUST realized last night is that I piro OPPOSITE of most people..typically people piro to the left(nose counterclockwise) BUT I actually do 95% of my piro's the other way...the difference here is that by doing a left piro you unload the head and tail..so less tail pitch and input is needed for a piro..which is obviously easier for the gears etc..

When I do my piro to the right it loads the head more(goes against the torque) therefore the tail gears and tail are under a constant load...and during piro moves where there are a lot of collective inputs...like piro tic tocs etc..it puts EVEN MORE load on the tail ...

I'm betting this is why alot of people are not having issues with the gears..but I am having issues...

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08-03-2011 10:14 AM  6 years agoPost 46
Seth Killian

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mesa, arizona, usa

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Thank you guys for your input and advice, very much appreciated.
I have watched your videos Jag, and you definatly are putting alot of strain on your heli pretty awesome to see entire flights while piro'ing i dig it!

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