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04-09-2011 04:23 PM  6 years agoPost 1
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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i have another new student

if i am a mentor would i call the new pilot a student ?

i know a instructor has students

i feel like a coach rather then instructor but i guess i do give instruction's while im coaching .

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04-09-2011 04:41 PM  6 years agoPost 2
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You need to be an experienced and trusted counselor or teacher.

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04-09-2011 04:48 PM  6 years agoPost 3
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Heli 770 You need to be an experienced and trusted counselor or teacher
i am experienced and trusted

but what do i call the pilot protege or student ?

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04-09-2011 04:51 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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Telemachus.

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04-09-2011 05:39 PM  6 years agoPost 5
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pro·té·gé   /ˈproʊtəˌʒeɪ, ˌproʊtəˈʒeɪ/ Show Spelled
[proh-tuh-zhey, proh-tuh-zhey] Show IPA

–noun
a person under the patronage, protection, or care of someone interested in his or her career or welfare.

If you don't know, http://www.dictionary.com is a wonderful tool. I think the word you are searching for is student.

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04-09-2011 05:50 PM  6 years agoPost 6
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Solmanbandit pro·té·gé   /ˈproʊtəˌʒeɪ, ˌproʊtəˈʒeɪ/ Show Spelled
[proh-tuh-zhey, proh-tuh-zhey] Show IPA

–noun
a person under the patronage, protection, or care of someone interested in his or her career or welfare.

If you don't know, http://www.dictionary.com is a wonderful tool. I think the word you are searching for is student.
students have teachers.

is a mentor a teacher ? lol

BTW who's on 1st ? no he's on 2nd (smiles)

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04-09-2011 07:59 PM  6 years agoPost 7
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A teacher is someone who directly guides the student. A mentor doesn't really teach, but gives advice or guides when needed. As an example, I know how to fly well, but there is a lot for me to still learn. Someone more experience giving me advice on something would be mentoring.

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04-09-2011 08:13 PM  6 years agoPost 8
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RIF

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04-09-2011 08:17 PM  6 years agoPost 9
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Solmanbandit A teacher is someone who directly guides the student. A mentor doesn't really teach, but gives advice or guides when needed. As an example, I know how to fly well, but there is a lot for me to still learn. Someone more experience giving me advice on something would be mentoring.
sounds good .

when im teaching i have my students do all the work there selves and i explain to them why its better to do the work there selves as i give instructions.

i tell them my stories about what you loose when people do it for you and the benefits you get from doing it your self.

im also mentoring on the phone to guys in other states and my benefit is watering the garden and watching it grow.

thank you for you responce mon

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04-09-2011 11:47 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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IMO, if you're teaching somebody, then the person you are teaching is the student.
How the student progresses is how well you teach and how good the student's motor skills are.

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04-10-2011 12:41 AM  6 years agoPost 11
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You've got him keeping the tail in nicely!!! Once he's got that then get some side in with nose left. For some reason that comes naturally. When you watch the pros busting it up the heli is more than not nose left and upside down with nose right. Once you and he have that down pat, then go nose right upright and then finally nose in. Actually inverted nose in is easier than nose in. Y'all are doing great on the sim, keep it up!

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04-10-2011 02:23 AM  6 years agoPost 12
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Who is going to teach him side-in and nose-in hovers?... and forward flight with circuits left and right?

Great to see you got someone introduced to the hobby.

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04-10-2011 02:54 AM  6 years agoPost 13
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One road block that you will come across is that you will only be able to teach him up to what you know. It also depends on how well you can communicate as well. I was an instructor in the military and teaching is quite a daunting task. My first year was pretty much learning and honing in the skills.

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04-10-2011 03:21 AM  6 years agoPost 14
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i would call this a protege i coached him when he had a esky 450.

i watered the seed and he grew somewhere else im happy to be a part of some very good pilots beginnings

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this is john now.

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04-10-2011 04:05 AM  6 years agoPost 15
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WC.

Try hovering side on, then flying forward in a straight line out to your left or right 50 - 100 ft or so, when you get there spin the tail around and fly back the other way, no need to worry about coordinated turns, eventualy at the far end you will be able to open up the turns.

Start by always turning away from your self and eventually you will be doing a big figure of 8 in FFF, once you get some momentum going in forward flight you will see a whole other dimension to flying, have much more fun and confidence.

So what if you crash a heli trying, just use a cheap 450, more than likely you wont crash so long as you just keep it to simple outward turns or even just spin the tail round at each end of the sky, if you dont start forward flying soon you may get disolutioned and drop out of the hobby all together, once you do like I say it wont take long, maybe 5 - 10 flights before your tearing around the sky, if anything goes wrong just stop and pull into a hover.

I would also consider trying a 500, 550 or 600 heli, 450`s have a strange way of flying, very unstable and they go down in the blink of an eye, cheap but not easy to fly, the crash cost for a 500 is not really all that much different, 550 and 600 blades are expensive though.

I am capable of limited 3d manouvers and aerobatic flight, my reflexes are not bad for a 39 yr old, but I dont think I would buy a 450 for that very reason, you need fast reflexes and a certain degree of good luck when it comes to 450`s.

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04-10-2011 05:50 AM  6 years agoPost 16
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Spitfire1 WC.

Try hovering side on, then flying forward in a straight line out to your left or right 50 - 100 ft or so, when you get there spin the tail around and fly back the other way, no need to worry about coordinated turns, eventualy at the far end you will be able to open up the turns.

Start by always turning away from your self and eventually you will be doing a big figure of 8 in FFF, once you get some momentum going in forward flight you will see a whole other dimension to flying, have much more fun and confidence.

So what if you crash a heli trying, just use a cheap 450, more than likely you wont crash so long as you just keep it to simple outward turns or even just spin the tail round at each end of the sky, if you dont start forward flying soon you may get disolutioned and drop out of the hobby all together, once you do like I say it wont take long, maybe 5 - 10 flights before your tearing around the sky, if anything goes wrong just stop and pull into a hover.
I would also consider trying a 500, 550 or 600 heli, 450`s have a strange way of flying, very unstable and they go down in the blink of an eye, cheap but not easy to fly, the crash cost for a 500 is not really all that much different, 550 and 600 blades are expensive though.

I am capable of limited 3d manouvers and aerobatic flight, my reflexes are not bad for a 39 yr old, but I dont think I would buy a 450 for that very reason, you need fast reflexes and a certain degree of good luck when it comes to 450`s. [/quote]

thanks spitfire but that guy was a student.
but ill still use your recommendation's my friend

this is some of me in the vid below.
i have done tail sides time for nose in hover then inverted for me next

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and i have something other then my 450s and there not to bad.

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04-10-2011 06:24 AM  6 years agoPost 17
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Nose in is hard, I would not aim to inverted hover before you have tried to fly FF circuits, until you can fly basic fast forward flight you have never really flown a heli, aiming to do 3d before even flying a helicopter around is obsurd.

It will take you no longer that 10 flights to be able to fly your helicopter around in the same manner as an aeroplane.

This is the problem with these helicopter forums, the talk is all about 3d, showing off on Youtube and boasting about 3d, so people come on here thinking thats what flying a heli is all about.

You can not possibly even consider learning 3d before you have even flown a heli forward and atleast be able to make outward turns, maybe a loop or a stall turn.

Sure you could learn to do a back flip and maybe a few tic tocs and inverted hovering to boot without ever flying one circuit, but its ridiculous.

Im not a big proponant of needing to learn every single orientation before moveing ahead any further like some are, but basic forward flight is a no brainer, Im not trying to beat up on on you, just saying you will enjoy flying much more when you can get up and boogie as a post to stationary hovering, upright or inverted. It gets boring after 6 months, after a year people who havent moved ahead start dropping out of the hobby.

You need to see big sky aerobatic flight first hand to understand how spectacular it is, and how much fun to fly also, you cant capture it on Youtube like you can do with 3d, I can assure you there would not be many 3d flyers who cant fly forward circuits, I very much doubt there is any at all.

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04-10-2011 08:29 AM  6 years agoPost 18
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"but what do i call the pilot protege or student ?"

Fortunate to have a good mentor!

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04-10-2011 08:37 AM  6 years agoPost 19
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i would call this a protege i coached him when he had a esky 450.
a person under the patronage, protection, or care of someone interested in his or her career or welfare.
I don't understand where you are getting protege.

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04-10-2011 09:06 AM  6 years agoPost 20
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You need to see big sky aerobatic flight first hand to understand how spectacular it is, and how much fun to fly also, you cant capture it on Youtube like you can do with 3d, I can assure you there would not be many 3d flyers who cant fly forward circuits, I very much doubt there is any at all.
@ Spitfire

Couldn't agree more. It wasn't but a few weeks back I saw someone flying a 50 size nitro, doing huge/fast figure 8's, giant stall turns, and a loop here and there. To me it was really enjoyable and entertaining to watch.

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