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04-06-2011 10:58 AM  6 years agoPost 21
ch-47c

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You don't know what is sitting next to a battery that does start a fire in the cargo hold. Sometimes a tire is next to a source of heat like a burning battery or an oxygen generator and that starts the tire on fire. That in turns causes other things to burn. Valuejet had that happen to them. When many of you say you knowingly and willingly flew here and back and nothing happened, you're just rationalizing your irresponsible behavior.

Yes computer batteries can start fires in an airplane Just like video camera batteries did on an airline. The camera belong to a news cameraman.

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04-06-2011 01:02 PM  6 years agoPost 22
Paul Woodcock

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Hi guys

The ValueJet oxygen generator crash was a classic case of miss declaration and packaging. In this case, ZERO....

The declaration and subsequent packaging makes transporting otherwise hazardous cargo safe.

This is fine for getting lipo's from the factory to the shop and later to you. The issue will be 'end users' i.e. YOU, getting them to fun flies etc..... taking your batteries down to a cargo company that deals with hazardous cargo and getting them packaged and flown somewhere will be expensive.

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Paul

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04-08-2011 11:47 AM  6 years agoPost 23
siang

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To be fair to the pilot,
1. all airliner should be equipt with fire proof compartment for lipo storage as they should be clasified as dangerous goods.
2. failing to declare will face hefty fines regardless of whether they catching any fire.
3. best of all, all lipo should be sealed with fireproof casing. By then, all accident be can and will be dramatically reduced once they leave the factory.

welcome to the dark side =)

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04-08-2011 01:11 PM  6 years agoPost 24
Paul Woodcock

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Hi siang

It is the shippers responsibility to pack (fireproof or not) whatever they ship. IATA regulates how it should be packed and in what quantities and if there are any restrictions regarding the 'mixing' of dangerous goods.

Well, however/ whoever packs lipos properly, it will increase the shipping cost.....

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Paul

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04-08-2011 02:03 PM  6 years agoPost 25
Thumpernator

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Forget about Lipos,,,,, snakes on a plane is even worse!!

Seriously, I agree with PWOOD. After the Air Tran incident, there were a lot of changes to procedures dealing with smoke/fire and a lot of changes to cargo fire detection and protection systems.

It's unfortunate that it takes a disaster to identify dangerous situations. But this is true in almost all aspects of life.

Dave
I keep on thinking, but nothing's happening. Knuk, Knuk, Knuk

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04-08-2011 09:02 PM  6 years agoPost 26
cmsilvoy

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Funny quote from fox news article "The batteries can short-circuit and cause fires that burn hot enough to melt an airplane."
Well, we all know they can burn hot enough to melt a helicopter, right

Chris

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