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02-21-2011 05:01 AM  6 years agoPost 1
Spitfire1

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Just got back from a medical test for a job and I cant understand the logic, Ive been fairly seriously into weight training now for a number of years, yet according to the grip test my fore arms are below average strength

How on earth can someone who curls large amounts of weight on a regular basis for years and years have below average fore arm strength? its ridiculous.

Also he takes my heartrate when I first sit down at 125 and makes me do step ups for what seems like an eternity and puts on the form that my fitness is poor, yet through out the entire medical examination while performing other exercises my heart rate is hovering only around 100 even while lifting and stretching, he even states himself that the innitial reading was elevated and gives a false result, and that had my heart rate been at or below 100, as it was for the entire time preceeding, that my result would have been average to better than average fitness.

So I say can I re do the fitness test again, and he says dont worry bud you will be fine, a lot I see cant even finnish the test..

Its just a complete load of rubbish, the employer is going to look at those results and think Im weaker than most girls are, and and about to have a heart attack at any moment, when nothing could be further from the truth.

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02-21-2011 05:17 AM  6 years agoPost 2
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^

Curls are not one of my strong points, I hate them, none the less I curl 30kg dumbells three lots of 7 - 10 reps, (60kg)

How many women do you know that could even curl 60kg even 1 rep let alone 3 * 7 - 10 reps, it takes considerable training even for a man, not many women could even push 60kg of there chest, yet according to that grip test my fore arms a weaker than the average woman..

And when I filling out paper work my heart rate was 125, but durin mild exercise it was down to 100, and he takes the 125 and uses that in the results.

Im so pissed of this idiot may have cost me the job of a lifetime, Ive just checked my pulse rate 4 times and never above 84, its just not f@@king right, this is absolute bulsh*t and theres not a damn thing I can do about it

F@CK!!!

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02-21-2011 07:38 AM  6 years agoPost 3
Heliguychris

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Soooooo.

Whats ya best resting heart rate ?

Surely not 125

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02-21-2011 08:11 AM  6 years agoPost 4
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120 or something, maybe 100 at the testing place, measured it 4 times here and its always below 84.

Started doing some research on google and for a while I thought things were looking bad for me, but then tested it myself and its below 84, well within normal (thats after a smoke too).

Im starting to calm down a bit now, my mum is a nurse and says its normal and these guys are used to it and hopely will still get the job, she recons he would have told me there and then if I had failed.

As far as my left fore arm being below average strength, I dont understand, Im not the biggest guy in the gym but Im not exactly a puny weakling either, I had to do a search on youtube to convince myself that I havent been deludeing myself all these years, and sure enough the guys curling 30kg in each hand are quite big guys (bigger than me) dont understand how I can be below average, been playing guitar with my left hand a long time also

This is for a job up North on Cloudbreak mine Chris, so its a huge thing for me, once in a lifetime opportunity to get an Align 700e.

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02-21-2011 08:42 AM  6 years agoPost 5
RaptorMan23

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Most likely a poor workout program you have goin. I like watching the guys that can curl 120 pounds but can barely do 10 pull ups. Your probibly just working the wrong muscles man. And you must do your workouts in the correct order to gain the most results. Dont blame your results on the tests, they dont lie

If you only have to bend over once to pick it up it's a good landing.

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02-21-2011 08:55 AM  6 years agoPost 6
Spitfire1

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Im not the fittest by any means far from it, but that 120 reading was just down to anxiety, when I measured here at home it was 84 after a smoke, even at the test center he was takeing down readings of 100 while I was performing lifting tasks.

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02-21-2011 09:17 AM  6 years agoPost 7
Heliguychris

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Fit is 60 a minute.
Athletes are 50 a minute.
Super fit is 40 per minute.
Like the works fittest dude ever was 35.
100/120 a minute dude doent sound right for someone who isnt a couch potatoe, which im guessing your not.
Maybe worth a trip to the doctor bro to at least ask the man the question....

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02-21-2011 09:28 AM  6 years agoPost 8
RaptorMan23

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+1 ^^^^^

If you only have to bend over once to pick it up it's a good landing.

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02-21-2011 11:18 AM  6 years agoPost 9
RayJayJohnsonJr

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Yep, I'd be asking too. I see by your profile you're almost 40. When I was forty my resting heart rate was a little under 60. If that 120 is legit, I'd be seeing a doctor. Just my 2 cents.....

Take care.

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02-21-2011 01:15 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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i'm not a lifter, but a long distance runner, and when i donate blood (only time i usually get my heart rate taken), its usually in the high 40's resting, sometimes in the low 50's.

I'm guessing a lot of it has to do with aerobic vs. muscle building type exercise. I've argued this with friends who are lifters and say their in aerobic shape, but then we run for 1/4 mile or so they die in their tracks. Not saying aerobics is better, to each his own, but the body clearly responds to each differently.

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02-21-2011 01:58 PM  6 years agoPost 11
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I am almost 60 had a heart attack and my heart rate resting is around 65 YOU need to go and see a doc and get looked at. Dump them cigs and it will help too. 40 years old that high of a heart rate 84 at rest smoker yep prime canidate for a heart attack.

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02-21-2011 02:01 PM  6 years agoPost 12
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Fit is 60 a minute.
Athletes are 50 a minute.
Super fit is 40 per minute.
Like the works fittest dude ever was 35.
100/120 a minute dude doent sound right for someone who isnt a couch potatoe, which im guessing your not.
Maybe worth a trip to the doctor bro to at least ask the man the question....
Agreed ^^
If you work out as much as you say then no way should you be anywhere near 100 HR. Go see a Dr.

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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02-21-2011 03:05 PM  6 years agoPost 13
Ronald Thomas

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White Coat Syndrome

Is a condition where you know you are going to be tested and your HR and BP increase to "get ready" for the event. I know many people who have it, and it does not mean something is wrong with you, it just means your body prepares differently than others. The only way to beat that is to rest at the testing site for 15-30 minutes before the test starts to let your body acclimate to the environment. Hope this helps.........Ron

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02-21-2011 03:19 PM  6 years agoPost 14
Pistol Pete

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according to that grip test
give yourself a pay raise and dump the cigs to afford the 700, then pick up a girly magazine for the grip issues.

or get one of these

http://www.nextag.com/Dynaflex-Pro-...951/prices-html

have one and keep it in car to be used while traveling...now.

Im punny and skinny but have gi-joe kung fu grips

All in fun...but the gyro ball really works. Folks with tennis elbow and related arm injuries have great success with it. I HAD a wrist injury and how I came across it.

You can also attach a weight/milk jug with sand or water to a rope tied to a piece of dowel/broomstick long enought to be able to, with both hands, start turning dowel to wrap rope around it while lifting weight, then lower to ground, repeat. You will find out how weak they really are...or not according to weight and repetitions.

Best of luck!

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02-21-2011 09:24 PM  6 years agoPost 15
jcrack_corn

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(thats after a smoke too).
post of the year.

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02-21-2011 09:41 PM  6 years agoPost 16
Heliguychris

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Hey Spitfire, dude i hope i wasnt being smarta$$ed but 100 odd does sound high.

Sounds like a nicew little earner up a cloudbreak, i got a bit tired of kimberly/ pilbara work, so im based in perth now.

I taught Karate for 14 years, after being a student for 6( started when i was 10) and resting heart rate was a test we used on new students to quickliy establish a baseline to build a training plan around.

Resting heartrate is an exellent indicator of general health, and it is easily improved rapidly by cardio. Weights and muscle mass increasing exercises do little to improve cardio conditioning.

Cardio is boring, no two ways about it. Walking, running, swimming, rowing etc.... all long slow exercise type activity.

I would sincerely and respectfully submit that maybe you should consult a doc, and get a BP check, or maybe try a week of cardio only exercise, and see if ya can get the number down.

A determined week WILL get that number down, and committed long term effort will get it right down there.

Everyone is different, not better or worse, juss different, so a 70 or80 resting may well be the norm for ya.

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02-21-2011 10:04 PM  6 years agoPost 17
Flying Brian

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Are you going to be an operator at this mine?

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02-21-2011 10:15 PM  6 years agoPost 18
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according to the grip test my fore arms are below average strength
That's bad news for anyone aspiring to be a chicken choker.

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02-21-2011 11:52 PM  6 years agoPost 19
Spitfire1

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Tested it at home while watching TV on the couch and its 60 - 64, ciggerettes did not seem to make any noticeable difference.

Got to quit the smokes, I never gave much thought to my age until the last 6 months I still thought I was 18

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02-21-2011 11:57 PM  6 years agoPost 20
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Are you going to be an operator at this mine?
I have been a plant operator in the past, but this job is as a cleaner, I think it may be cleaning the onsite offices but Im not completely sure yet.

origonaly it was to clean the mining camp accomodation, but I have a truck liscence so I think there going to make use of that.

They fly you up there and you work for 2 weeks 12 hours a day 7 days, then they fly you back here to Perth for 7 days off.
White Coat Syndrome
This is what it is, its wierd though because when he tested it at 125bpm I felt completely relaxed no anxiety at all, would hate to think what it is when Im flying RC planes and helis, wondering if RC flying has made me so used to being anxious I dont even know I am anymore, if you think about it thats what your doing is learning to still function normaly while in panic mode.

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