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02-21-2011 12:57 AM  6 years agoPost 21
sonnyhad

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I have one, and only used it twice in two years.

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02-21-2011 12:59 AM  6 years agoPost 22
Shawn Behrens

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If you fly hard enough the links will not be tight for very long. I have never felt the need to size the links on any of my 700Ns. The servo wheels would not have stripped if you didn't tip it over on spool up, chalk it up to user error or blame something else if it makes you feel better.

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02-21-2011 01:00 AM  6 years agoPost 23
McKrackin

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I just don't get it. Every Heli mechanic should have a ball link reamer,As it is a very standard/widley used tool.
I've never had an occasion to need one.
Every kit I have ever had fit nicely.

This is the first one evr that had a tight fit.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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02-21-2011 01:12 AM  6 years agoPost 24
Flying Brian

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This is the first one evr that had a tight fit.
And now you need one. So much for using the good ol excuse, I never needed one in 20 years. Now you do, so get one, as it is the only way to fix this.
If you fly hard enough the links will not be tight for very long
That is not the fix.

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02-21-2011 01:21 AM  6 years agoPost 25
Flying Brian

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You already said your binding from your push pull up to your swash. Without properly sizeing the links, you might see some interaction and just is not any fun to have....

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02-21-2011 01:28 AM  6 years agoPost 26
heli-cuzz

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This is the first one evr that had a tight fit.
And now you need one. So much for using the good ol excuse, I never needed one in 20 years. Now you do, so get one, as it is the only way to fix this.
If you fly hard enough the links will not be tight for very long
That is not the fix.
IMO depending on the tightness. You can get away with working them in as you fly.
When the link is super tight and a ball link sizing tool is unavailable. You can work them in manually by hand. Take one end off and rotate 360 degrees as many times need3D to loosen it up a bit.
Sure it sucks doing it that way, but it will loosen them up enough to start flying the machine.

I prefer my links tight and just fly them. I highly doubt you'll notice a difference. I have a sizing tool and have never had to use it, but atleast its there if I ever need to.

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02-21-2011 01:37 AM  6 years agoPost 27
Flying Brian

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Now I do agree with using a pair of needle nose pliers to loosing them up a tough, but that is it. If you have to put a death grip on the link, then that is just not right.

Now, back to the OP's Problem. He has told us that his set up is binding somthing fierce. IMHO, the ball links need to be cut to fit proper, and the actual links themselves may need some adjusting as well. I have no more argument for this topic, because there is really nothing more to say about this.

Good Luck

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02-21-2011 01:45 AM  6 years agoPost 28
McKrackin

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I have no more argument for this topic, because there is really nothing more to say about this
Who's arguing?
You asked a stupid question and I answered.
You don't understand why I don't have a sizer or reamer.

I never needed one.
Now maybe I do but there's no need in you jumping down my throat.
Maybe I thought you gave a good bit of advise and I even asked what size to get and where you got it but it seems you want to keep that to yourself.

Get over it and offer some advise or get out of it.

I'm just sayin...You're still on my buddy list

I literally never use the word literally right.

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02-21-2011 02:03 AM  6 years agoPost 29
Wave

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I just don't get it. Every Heli mechanic should have a ball link reamer,As it is a very standard/widley used tool.
Brian, I have never felt the need to play with my balls.

...but if they were crazy tight, then I just may.

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02-21-2011 02:04 AM  6 years agoPost 30
Flying Brian

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Who's arguing?
I'm arguing for you, as some are telling you to just go fly, which is not a good thing with binding linkages, IMHO.
You asked a stupid question and I answered.
I don't even know what this means?
You don't understand why I don't have a sizer or reamer
I don't understand why anybody would'nt have one. I have only used mine with 3 different builds, but it was needed.
I never needed one
So all of your ball links on prior builds were all cut to the same exact sizing needed. Well that is presision straight from the heli maker, sounds like it was a Miniture Aircraft product.
Now maybe I do but there's no need in you jumping down my throat
Again, Not yours but them. Im just trying to keep it real though...
Maybe I thought you gave a good bit of advise and I even asked what size to get and where you got it but it seems you want to keep that to yourself
It's a secret! Really though, I just can't get to my tools just yet. Sorry, but I will check when I do get there.
Get over it and offer some advise or get out of it
Im commited now!

Yeah, buddys to the end, even if your ball links continue to sqeal like pigs.

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02-21-2011 02:12 AM  6 years agoPost 31
helismash

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I got my ball link sizer from Heli Proz if it helps. By the way, I also had the fuel line split on me. My first forced auto. It scared the hell outta me. LOL

Hey, Who put the ground there!
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02-21-2011 03:01 AM  6 years agoPost 32
heli-cuzz

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I'm arguing for you, as some are telling you to just go fly, which is not a good thing with binding linkages, IMHO.
You don't need to argue for Big ERN MC. He's a big boy and can take any advice he wants.
Obviously you're gung hoe dead set on a sizing tool.

Depending on the tightness is the key phrase.
IMO depending on the tightness. You can get away with working them in as you fly.
or this... Key words sizing tool unavailable
When the link is super tight and a ball link sizing tool is unavailable. You can work them in manually by hand. Take one end off and rotate 360 degrees as many times need3D to loosen it up a bit.
Sure it sucks doing it that way, but it will loosen them up enough to start flying the machine.
That's in a pinch to get out and fly. A 90 sized and three flights and they'll be sized perfectly.

ERN, the hell with it. Don't fly the damn thing for three to five days until you get a sizer delivered to your mailbox.

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02-21-2011 03:04 AM  6 years agoPost 33
jschenck

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Make sure you links are where they should be on the ball and take a pair of linemans pliers and squeeze a bit. That should fix em!
This usually works for me. Nice way to release some of the pressure/tightness without removing material.

I have a ball link sizer that I bought 4-5 years ago. I find that I don't use it very often now because I'd rather have a *slightly* tight ball link that wears into the right size than to have one that is smooth to start with and pops off 4-5 gallons later. Having said that they should be loose enough to spin on the ball link, not squeaky tight.

For me the stock Align links work well. I did replace them with the newer -1 part number about a year ago and they are still good though I'm replacing them now along with many other maintenance parts preparing for the spring flying.

The stock fuel line works good for me outside the fuel tank. Inside I use Hayes black clunk line and a small section of tubing over the ends as a clamp. I also run the fuel magnet. That combo was in my tank for well over a year and came out still good. The clunk line is still very usable though I'm replacing it anyway. I store the heli with a full tank of fuel all the time. I'm also trying the Lynx MOAS clunk this time.

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02-21-2011 03:23 AM  6 years agoPost 34
Flying Brian

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The JR tool expands to 5mm.

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02-21-2011 03:49 AM  6 years agoPost 35
sonnyhad

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I've had them fricken servo horns strip lookin at them cross ways! It really sucks when you don't notice it until you get to the field and don't have any spares with you.
I know I'm gunna open up a can of worms here, but I've put the metal ones on most of my heli's and what happens is the linkage will bend, so far I'm lucky, it could be the servo gears. But if it is the servo gears, it won't happen in flight and cause a 3 or 4 hundred dollar crash, they usually only break when you crash! You go McKrackin, fly the snot out of that thing Bro!!

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02-21-2011 03:57 AM  6 years agoPost 36
jschenck

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I've run the stock plastic servo wheels the entire time I've owned my 700, they've been good for me. I do understand they strip easily if you have a blade contact at any speed. Replace them anytime you've had a blade strike even if the wheels seem good.

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02-21-2011 07:52 AM  6 years agoPost 37
Gyronut

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Just get yourself a decent ball link reamer and be done with it or change all your balls and links to Quick and forget about them.

Rick

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02-21-2011 11:03 AM  6 years agoPost 38
McKrackin

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Now we.re getting into the awesome intel.
Thanks a ton everybody.

I literally never use the word literally right.

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02-21-2011 12:55 PM  6 years agoPost 39
Mike0251

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If you use a resizer be very ginger (or maryann), you can oversize in a second if your not careful and then they are trash. Quick uk!

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02-21-2011 01:12 PM  6 years agoPost 40
FunkieChicken99

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If you don't have a ball tool sizer... you can put the link on the ball and with your ball link pliers just squeeze the link on the ball easy until you get some movement to it.

Tight links at stress to your servos and tight ball links in succession can lead to striping a servo if your servos are running boarder line.

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