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02-18-2011 07:39 PM  6 years agoPost 1
TheHud

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This is word of mouth so please do not ask for reference, I have looked for reports but have not been able to find any. A friend of the family (ex-cop) recently had a short (not even overnight) stay in a cell in St. Louis, Mo. (Traffic violations) While he was there, eight other people were in holding with him, seven were for a raid on a meth lab and one was a neighbor near said lab.

Friend was talking to the "lab neighbor". Apparently the police raided the house, and started towing the cars from the driveway. The cars belonging to those arrested will eventually be sold by the city to help fund the police. The police then started towing the cars from most of the driveways on that street. The neighbor came out to talk to the police. "Hey, why are you towing my car from my driveway? I have nothing to do with your bust." Police told him that everyone around there knew it was a meth lab and did nothing to stop it, so are accessories. Therefor they can seize and sell those cars as part of the bust. They then arrested the neighbor for interfering with police business.

While I am sure there is more to this story than has been reported to me, the idea that they would tow all the cars in the area under the excuse that they neighbors should have "done something" is nuts. Exactly what should they do? Have a block meeting? Shoot the druggies as they walk up? Exactly what do they expect the neighbors to do? I thought that stopping criminals was the police departments job. Now it seems they can punish the public for NOT doing the their jobs for them?

Gun control is like fighting drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to buy cars.

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02-18-2011 08:18 PM  6 years agoPost 2
SwingWings

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Considering whats going on in this country @ this date and time, this does not sound too far fetched.

Everything is about money...ALWAYS

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02-18-2011 08:25 PM  6 years agoPost 3
outhouse

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I dont buy the story as stated.

tweakers in the jail lied as usual

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02-18-2011 08:35 PM  6 years agoPost 4
DougCart

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Well one thing is for sure,if this is true then people arent going to stand for having drug dealers etc. as neighbors and maybe drug dealers either will drive crappy cars or ride bicycles after hearing this news. lol

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02-18-2011 08:46 PM  6 years agoPost 5
albatross

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Wow seems as though they can seize nice cars for loud music...go figure.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/09/928.asp

St. Louis Passes Sweeping Car Confiscation Ordinance
A new St. Louis, Missouri ordinance allows police to confiscate luxury automobiles with high-end stereos.

Legislation approved by the St. Louis, Missouri Board of Aldermen on Friday would authorize police to seize a broad range of luxury automobiles such as the $69,000 Lexus LS sedan. The Lexus, which is offered with an optional 11-speaker sound system, runs afoul of the new law that makes it a crime to "possess or operate" a vehicle with more than ten speakers within city limits.

Automakers such as Audi, BMW and Porsche offer as many as fourteen speakers as part of standard or optional audio packages. Even the $23,000 Toyota RAV4 is available with a 440-watt sound system that violates a provision against having "more than 300 watts of output."

Alderman Craig Schmid introduced the ordinance as an "emergency" measure in May to address the problem of loud music on the highways. It also authorizes automobile confiscation for littering and soliciting prostitution. Under the ordinance, a car will be taken away upon accusation and before any finding of guilt by a judge or jury. There may be no hearing on the matter for as long as a week and the automobile will be held thereafter until the police deem "the motor vehicle is no longer necessary for prosecution." Expensive towing fees, storage fees and fines must be paid before the car is released. If signed by Mayor Francis Slay, it becomes law immediately.

A full copy of the ordinance is available in a 10k PDF file at the source link below.

Source: Board Bill Number 82 (St. Louis Board of Aldermen, 1/30/2006)

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02-18-2011 09:34 PM  6 years agoPost 6
outhouse

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it allows them, but none have been taken yet.

more trash from albatross

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02-19-2011 05:00 AM  6 years agoPost 7
drdot

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fwiw..

If this is true...They could use "Alderman" Schmid in Iran....I'll be glad to donate to a fund to buy him a (one way) ticket....

BC

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02-19-2011 08:58 AM  6 years agoPost 8
cvdiver

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While this bill was introduced, 6 years ago, it never passed.

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02-19-2011 02:37 PM  6 years agoPost 9
Havoc

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This business of allowing the police to seize money and property of drug offenders sounds great but does lead to real abuse. The biggest being that they will allow the drug dealer to accumulate assets before they bring them down. So in those cases, they could care less about the drugs on the street but about the money they bring in when they do take them down. Their level of immunity is too high. They can bring in friends, neighbors, and roommates for the most flimsy of excuses in hopes they will have more evidence on the dealer to build their case. And if you are poor and/or uneducated and stuck in a jail cell, you will give them anything they want to hear to get out even if you need to make it up. I think they should be able to seize property but not profit from it. It should be handed to charity after it is determined if it is in fact ill gotten. Then the cowboy mentality would diminish. There are a lot of Nifong type prosecutors out there. They just aren't so bad stupid as to go as far as to hit the national media with their nonsense.

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02-19-2011 04:39 PM  6 years agoPost 10
fla heli boy

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I have a friend that went thru 2 years of hell because of a "Nifong" type Federal prosecutor. They're out there, no doubt about it.
He never saw a federal facility and was transferred once a month from one nasty county jail after another, having to fight and get the crap beat out of him at every turn.
Once he got in front of a Federal judge, the judge laughed at the case and threw it out. My friend was a millionaire plus some when he went in. Came out flat broke after the Feds seized his assets. His appeal to have his funds returned has been ongoing for years and he has no hope of ever seeing his money again.

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