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02-16-2011 01:24 PM  6 years agoPost 1
RCSavager

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For all the die-hard fans of VBar I thought I'd make a post with some release information. Enjoy fellas, the maidens will come at dawn.

VStabi Pioneer of Flybarless
Version 5.1 PRO avaliable!

The New Version 5.1PRO is the successor of the proven V5.0 PRO. It contains a new development step of the swashplate algorithm, as well as a new governor.

All extensions of the swashplate algorithm are available on all 5.0 PRO variants. The governor is currently available at the fullsize vbars only, but there will be a simplified version for electrics for the mini VBar in the future if used with satellites or bus receivers. The update is free of charge for all owners of the 5.0 PRO Version.

Swashplate

The Improvements of the swashplate algorithm contains the following items:

More natural and quicker stick response, specially near stick center position

Quicker and more natural than ever before

Better pirouetting performance, specially at complex maneuvers.

Pirouettes as fluid and smooth, its a pure pleasure

Better high speed performance, flying near the physical limits

The fastest VBar in the world, just got faster. Speeders will love it

Paddle simulation. If you like your familiar feeling from flying with paddles, we now have a solution for you. Have the best of both worlds.

Cracking and Smackdown like with paddles, but adjustable as you like it.

Governor (currently not for Mini)

The V5.1 PRO contains a new developed governor function. Its not a separate unit, but communicates with all other internal algorithms to get the best possible results. This gives a performance, that currently is not known from governors. The governor for Mini VBar will be made available at a later point in time.

Extremly fast and precise headspeed control. Maximum power can be unleashed by taking the limits of the throttle into account.

Extra stiff headspeed, no lag if you apply load quickly.

Works with a preview of the needed power, which is possible because of watching the complete system.

Instant power, regardless what you do.

Very flexible, we have a solution for most configurations.

One Channel, or two, throttle curves internal or from Tx, just as you like it.

Usable for Nitro and Electric helis. Special modes take care of the different characeristics of the power systems.

Really good governing now available for nitros too

Softstart and autorotaion bailout, collective management to avoid motor overloading and much more.

Everything included, but really simple wiring.

V5.1 PRO defines a new reference. The type of integration is completely new and results in an exceptionally stiff headspeed at nitros or electrics, without the artefacts of an aggressive governor.
The setup ist integrated into the known userinterface, so the setup is simple and straightforward without the need of watching blinkcodes or abbreviations. An extensive paper manual read is not needed, since the explanations are integrated into the software.
Some additional extensions are implemented in this new Version:

* Failsave now goes to hold if spektrum sats are used
* Digital centers for spektrum normal resolution
* Multiplex M-Link Support
* Display of the motor and rotor speed into the vibration analyzer window
* Flight Style can be adjusted freely
* Special tail mode for microhelis

All settings are compatible, so there is no need for a new setup. Some integrated resets set value for new functionality to usable defaults.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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02-16-2011 03:46 PM  6 years agoPost 2
THX1138

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I got it loaded on my Mini-V, gonna try her out this afternoon I think...

Lou

Just give me five dudes and two flashbangs...

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02-16-2011 05:13 PM  6 years agoPost 3
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Maiden complete. Seems a tad snappier when tossing the sticks around but that snap doesn't seem linear or exponetial in feel. It's like when you first move the sticks you get an immediate response but once the bird's body begins to react the control loop pulls back to a normal feel. Tic-tocs are VERY cool now and no drifting in big-air moves. Makes my Radix FBL 690's bark like a BIG dog now.

In summary, I call it a "WIN" in my book. Nicely done Mikado.

/two thumbs up

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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02-16-2011 06:27 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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Interesting I reckon the snap is the flybar effect, so it's kinda like a double expo! 5 down 5 to go this side cant wait to get in the air. The new interface is fantastic

Common sense may not be common after all

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02-16-2011 07:05 PM  6 years agoPost 5
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what is the default on the paddle simulation? what setting gives you a "no paddle effect" (basically like vbar 4.0 or 5.0 express.

***Logo 600 vbar***Henseleit TDR vbar***

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02-16-2011 07:09 PM  6 years agoPost 6
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If you mouse over that number is shows you that "0" removes any 'paddle' effect you might feel. I left mine at the default 20 and enjoy it so far. Everyone's mileage will vary I'm sure but the OPTION of being able to adjust it is awesome IMHO.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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02-16-2011 08:33 PM  6 years agoPost 7
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Do u have to reset everything back up coming from 5.0 or can u just do the paddle simulation

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02-16-2011 08:33 PM  6 years agoPost 8
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5.0 pro

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02-16-2011 08:35 PM  6 years agoPost 9
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Everything is carried over, no need to reset anything. Just click the two grey buttons and you're done, go fly.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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02-16-2011 11:35 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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anyone have to link to where we get it at? I think my 700N has 4.0 I guess is it just as ez to switch that one out?

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02-16-2011 11:41 PM  6 years agoPost 11
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I think you need to pay if you're coming from 4.0

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02-16-2011 11:43 PM  6 years agoPost 12
Ronald Thomas

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anyone have to link to where we get it at? I think my 700N has 4.0 I guess is it just as ez to switch that one out?
http://www.vstabi.info/en/V51_software

Download the new software,connect your VBAR to it, select "online update" and let the program read the unit, select the newest version(that will take you to the VBAR shop to buy it), buy it (MAKE SURE YOU INPUT THE CORRECT SERIAL NUMBER!!!), go back to the software, select the newest version again and an icon will pop up that will let you install it.

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02-16-2011 11:49 PM  6 years agoPost 13
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Thanks!!

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02-17-2011 01:00 AM  6 years agoPost 14
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And prepare to be freaked out, the difference between 4.0 and 5.1 is quite distinct to say the least !

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02-17-2011 04:23 AM  6 years agoPost 15
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Yes a new de-learning curve, wih 4 you had to think a little during setup, now you just go through the motions. From 4 you have to do a complete new setup by clicking the "create new setup" icon in the setup page. There is now a digital sat bind which gives you zero trim and "almost 100" atv in spektrum, i still would not bind with hi res sat however.

Common sense may not be common after all

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02-18-2011 11:15 PM  6 years agoPost 16
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8 flights this aft on 5,1 on standard paddle simulation 20 and medium setting, and really like my tic-tocs better that way than 5.0
Easier timing and such, great job Mikado.

Life is meaningful flying helis.

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02-19-2011 12:04 AM  6 years agoPost 17
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Just updated mine gona try it tomorow

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02-20-2011 02:12 AM  6 years agoPost 18
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do you need v5 pro or can you come right from express

Compass 6HV vbar, Compass 600E 12s, MSH Protos 500 BeastX

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02-20-2011 02:14 AM  6 years agoPost 19
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You can go right from express. The 5.1 update is a freebie for anyone with Pro or anyone upgrading to Pro. 5.1 IS the new Pro.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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02-20-2011 02:14 AM  6 years agoPost 20
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You have to buy Pro ($45) to get 5.1, but you can jump directly to 5.1 from any other version.

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