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02-14-2011 06:57 PM  6 years agoPost 1
fung_jeff

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It looks very nice. A bit similar to 10chg on the top and 8fg on the bottom. Looks great

It will be FHSS.

So off topic question, is Fasst better or FHSS?

http://www.rc.futaba.co.jp/index.html

http://www.rc.futaba.co.jp/propo/air/6j.html

http://translate.google.ca/translat...opo/air/6j.html

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02-14-2011 07:08 PM  6 years agoPost 2
DougV

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Futaba FHSS is a entry level parkflyer system (They have a few of them already), can't be compared to FASST.

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02-14-2011 07:09 PM  6 years agoPost 3
fung_jeff

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This does look better than 6EX Though

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02-14-2011 07:23 PM  6 years agoPost 4
Anthony.L

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They also have FHSS for entry level surface radios for car/trucks/etc.

As stated it's low-end, and nothing new.

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02-14-2011 11:16 PM  6 years agoPost 5
Ghia

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FAST is just futaba speak for FHSS transmission hopping technology. everything from large turbines to helicopters fly FASST/FHSS technology.

Airtronics is FHSS
XPS is FHSS
hitec has FHSS

on and on.

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02-14-2011 11:19 PM  6 years agoPost 6
DougV

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FAST is just futaba speak for FHSS transmission hopping technology. everything from large turbines to helicopters fly FASST/FHSS technology.

Airtronics is FHSS
XPS is FHSS
hitec has FHSS

on and on.
LOL... you are wrong!

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02-15-2011 04:14 AM  6 years agoPost 7
Ghia

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no I am right!

Every body knows Futaba is a hopper along with most of the other brands. Only spektrum is DHSS, so how is that wrong and where did you crawl out from??

Are you seriously saying FASST is a entry level 2.4ghz technology only fit for park flyers??

If you are saying that, did you inform your findings to all the guys currently winning championships with this technology??

http://www.futaba-rc.com/team/image...onships-01b.jpg

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02-15-2011 04:38 AM  6 years agoPost 8
DougV

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[/quote] no I am right!

Every body knows Futaba is a hopper along with most of the other brands. Only spektrum is DHSS, so how is that wrong and where did you crawl out from??

Are you seriously saying FASST is a entry level 2.4ghz technology only fit for park flyers??

If you are saying that, did you inform your findings to all the guys currently winning championships with this technology??
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Ghia,

Do me a favor and go back to my post #2 and read it again slowly.

Done reading? now let me give you some Futaba RF protocol 101:

Futaba has an entry level (Park flyer) system called FHSS (Futaba Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum) http://futaba-rc.com/radios/futk4200.html and they also have FASST (Futaba Advanced Spread Spectrum Technology) that is NOT an FHSS system FASST is a DSSS system just like Spektrum DSM-2 put with frequency hopping.

I haven’t said anything about FASST been a park flyer system.

P.S. The question now is "where did YOU crawl out from??

Doug.

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02-15-2011 11:57 PM  6 years agoPost 9
Ghia

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sorry Im not sure why they would need a new 2.4g protocol with less features then a FASST. they took the dual antennas out of the new entry radios Rx....
Sorry didnt know they created a watered down version of FASST for their entry level.... Not sure why they did that.

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02-16-2011 04:24 AM  6 years agoPost 10
TMoore

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What's the difference between "sport flying" and "park flying" because I'm not seeing a distinction between the two on that web page or the Futaba manual?

There is a description in English on the Robbe site.

TM

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02-16-2011 01:24 PM  6 years agoPost 11
kcordell

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The 'Park Flyer' RX's (shorter single antenna) are only advertised as good for 500m. The R6004 is only good up to 300ft.

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02-16-2011 02:25 PM  6 years agoPost 12
TMoore

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Kevin,

Did y'all read the specs on this radio? It says it comes with an R2006GS RX. According to the Robbe site this is a full range RX with two antennas:

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Description here:
Small, lightweight 2.4 GHz FHSS six-channel receiver incorporating Frequency Hopping technology.

No crystals, no spot frequency selection, and maximum protection from same-channel interference thanks to high-speed 2.4 GHz FHSS technology. High-speed Frequency Hopping for effective suppression of interference signals.
Frequency Hopping system with thirty channels at 1.5 MHz spacing in the 2404 - 2447.5 MHz range. Maximum 28 simultaneous users.
Not compatible with FASST transmitters. Only for FHSS systems such as T2PL, T3PL, T4YF, T4PL, T6JG)
Not recommended for large-scale model aircraft and jets.
Range: approx. 1000 m
1000m is full range in my mind so I guess what I'm saying is; is it fair to lump the Futaba FHSS systems as just Park Flyer radios or are they just normal radios?

TM

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02-16-2011 05:32 PM  6 years agoPost 13
kcordell

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I am only interested in spec for equipment here in the US. I commented on the RX's available here.
What Robbe does, Robbe does.

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02-16-2011 07:56 PM  6 years agoPost 14
TMoore

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What RX will come on the US spec unit? The link that was posted was for the R2006GS.

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02-16-2011 08:19 PM  6 years agoPost 15
kcordell

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http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...?&I=LXXMV6&P=ML

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03-31-2011 04:19 AM  6 years agoPost 16
scottward

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Other than the incompatibility with FASST, is there actually anything *wrong* with this new T6J radio?

i.e. is it just as good as any other typical 6 channel radio?

I know the range isn't as good - but seriously - as long as it can fly a model out of site who cares?

Scott.

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03-31-2011 02:07 PM  6 years agoPost 17
gorn

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I have one in the office at work.
Feels much nicer than a 6ex, and is very simple to programme.
We got sent no manual, I just pushed butttons and worked it out fairly quickly.

I have yet to fly with it though, too busy right now.

For the love of the hobby

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04-04-2011 04:41 AM  6 years agoPost 18
slickporsche

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DOUG

Please tell us what FASST really is. Please enlighten us newbies, and you will need to start from scratch with us.

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04-04-2011 04:52 AM  6 years agoPost 19
slickporsche

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1000 meters range

That is roughly 3316 feet, or about 2/3 of a mile in range. How big is your helicopter, that you can see it at that distance??? I also fly large scale planes and gliders, and would think twice about getting that far away.

My question really is what is considered full range to you doctorates in Radio Control Technology? I thought you needed to actually see the model to control it. You all must be of the same mentality that thinks you need a gee whiz 3-axis gyro to fly FBL. Well I guess if you want to use your heli to deliver Pizza to the other side of town, you must need more range.

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04-04-2011 11:33 AM  6 years agoPost 20
DougV

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Slick, Start reading here: http://www.rcmodelreviews.com/spreadspectrum01.shtml

Then do some search/reading on FHSS and DSSS. then go look at the FCC docs for Futaba FASST and Futaba FHSS systems.

Hope that helps,
Doug.

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