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02-17-2011 02:44 PM  6 years agoPost 61
Rogman88

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I started watching the F3C videos here on RR the fall of 09 when I started getting fairly proficient at FFF and oriented upright. It really inspired me to try the hovering moves like the figure M, inverted triangle and the diamond. Those were very frustrating becuase no matter how much I concentrated, I just couldn't get them to look as pretty as those guys on the vids (the masters). I really enjoyed the FFF moves though, like the knife edge cobra roll, 4 point rolls, figure M with 540 stall turns at the top and my favorite...the vertical spike! As I've progressed, quick sharp moves that I don't have to think about (3D) actually seem to be easier and spectators think it's cool so I've started moving that way.

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02-17-2011 03:01 PM  6 years agoPost 62
Thatlumox

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Some people can put the helicopter where they want it in the sky. Others just give inputs and react to where it goes.

"I'm a dirt torpedo!"

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02-17-2011 03:12 PM  6 years ago •• Post 63 ••
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Some people can put the helicopter where they want it in the sky. Others just give inputs and react to where it goes.

"I'm a dirt torpedo!"

this is funny statement buddy imao, can b true too

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-17-2011 03:18 PM  6 years agoPost 64
Rogman88

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Some people can put the helicopter where they want it in the sky. Others just give inputs and react to where it goes.
Very true. It's much easier to slam the heli around doing crazy stuff without care of where it is then to conciously put the heli exactly in the place that you want it to be. I guess that's why I'm moving away from precision pattern F3C stuff (from my plank days) to "3D". One doesn't have to think doing 3D, as most of it happens too fast to think anyway.

High Voltage just works better

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02-17-2011 03:24 PM  6 years agoPost 65
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Some people can put the helicopter where they want it in the sky. Others just give inputs and react to where it goes.

Very true. It's much easier to slam the heli around doing crazy stuff without care of where it is then to conciously put the heli exactly in the place that you want it to be. I guess that's why I'm moving away from precision pattern F3C stuff (from my plank days) to "3D". One doesn't have to think doing 3D, as most of it happens too fast to think anyway.

Just stirring the pot of discussion...one post at a time.
do you have this heli? i heard too many different story on it'I do not no what to believe so is it 3d or it not ? thank man

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-17-2011 03:54 PM  6 years agoPost 66
Santiago P

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Very true. It's much easier to slam the heli around doing crazy stuff without care of where it is then to conciously put the heli exactly in the place that you want it to be. I guess that's why I'm moving away from precision pattern F3C stuff (from my plank days) to "3D". One doesn't have to think doing 3D, as most of it happens too fast to think anyway.
Precision aerobatics is just a diferent monster altogether.
The aerobatics may look simple, but when you take in account symmetry, centering, speed, and smoothness it becomes very dificult.

Understanding all the ingredients of precision aerobatics MAKES you a BETTER 3D pilot, when you apply the techniques.

Precision hovering is even a bigger monster to conquer. The trick to hovering as I gained knowledge is SETUP. You set the helicopter so it is very neutral (sits by itself) from still wind to windy conditions.

The same helicopter needs to cruise full throttle, straight and level, hands off, neutral shawsplate @ around 85 to 100mph for the aerobatics.

Precision is a discipline that forces you to learn every aspect of the heli, MUCH MORE in depth than 3D.

3D pushes hardware, precision pushes pilot skill.

Curtis Youngblood, Scott Gray, and Nick Maxwell, were precision pilots before they became 3D kings.

Take up the challenge, you'll be glad you did.

Santiago

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02-17-2011 04:03 PM  6 years agoPost 67
Santiago P

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i heard too many different story on it do not what to believe so is it 3d or it not ? thank man
???? Im not sure what you are asking?

The manuevers Rogman88 descrived are F3C manuevers. They are big air, high speed aerobatics.

The cool thing is, you can combine those manuevers with 3d moves to make a much more spectator friendly routine, and the even your 3D buddies will take notice.

If you only care about low level smack, disregard.

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02-17-2011 06:03 PM  6 years agoPost 68
Rogman88

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3D pushes hardware, precision pushes pilot skill.
+ 1000 on everything MPV stated, especially this one.

I still like to throw in some big air moves to break the monotany of quick short stuff, hurricanes and funnels.

I've changed focus recently to improve my 3D game, but the precision stuff is still fun when I think to do it.

High Voltage just works better

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02-17-2011 09:27 PM  6 years agoPost 69
Solmanbandit

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On my last flight, didn't feel much like throwing it around, so I worked on precision hovering. It turned out to be a bit tricky with a 450 Pro.

Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2

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02-17-2011 10:57 PM  6 years agoPost 70
es1co2bar3

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Solmanbandit
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My Posts This: Topic Forum On my last flight, didn't feel much like throwing it around, so I worked on precision hovering. It turned out to be a bit tricky with a 450 Pro.

Pushing it to the next level and what that is? No idea!
i am doing low to the ground stuff with my pro will make movie soon i am just now learning all the mixing in the futaba 10c radio thank god for this kid to help me out he no this radio inside out. i fly better 3d with all the new mixing making the heli more agile

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-17-2011 10:59 PM  6 years agoPost 71
es1co2bar3

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3D pushes hardware, precision pushes pilot skill.
+ 1000 on everything MPV stated, especially this one.

I still like to throw in some big air moves to break the monotany of quick short stuff, hurricanes and funnels.

I've changed focus recently to improve my 3D game, but the precision stuff is still fun when I think to do it.

Just stirring the pot of discussion...one post at a time.
flying precision is best when you no your thing to do list by heart.
when you do not have to think about the next move.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-18-2011 12:17 AM  6 years agoPost 72
Spitfire1

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Im looking forward to getting back into helis again for the first time in a long while, think I will look at the 700E for f3C flying.

The flybarless gizmo is the only thing that puts me off, a flying bud brought one to our feild a while ago and we were all too afraid to spool it up, for fear of what may happen.

I think something was wrong with it, it just did not seem right.

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02-18-2011 04:10 AM  6 years agoPost 73
Solmanbandit

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If you have FBL, you have to check it to make sure the gyro's are working in the proper direction. I watched a guy test fly his 450 3G and his roll was backwards on the gyro. The results weren't good. Anyways, FBL is setup intensive.

Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2

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02-18-2011 05:13 AM  6 years agoPost 74
Spitfire1

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Im not sure you have any choice any more, it may be FBL or nothing.

Theres a guy on here heliguychris with 700`s who lives here in Perth, if I get one Il call him, I havent flown for a year or so.

I might give a 450 or 500 fbl a go on my own, but not a 700.

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(I see you can get a 550 with a flybar for $650, thats not to much money for a kit with servos, gyro, motor and esc.)

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02-18-2011 06:50 AM  6 years agoPost 75
Solmanbandit

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Look on this site, they have the FBL and flybarred 700E.

http://www.hobbyhyper.co.za/c1/Helicopters.aspx

Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2

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02-19-2011 06:36 PM  6 years agoPost 76
es1co2bar3

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Precision aerobatics is just a diferent monster altogether.
The aerobatics may look simple, but when you take in account symmetry, centering, speed, and smoothness it becomes very dificult.

Understanding all the ingredients of precision aerobatics MAKES you a BETTER 3D pilot, when you apply the techniques.
then if that the case this must be a great heli then am i right ?

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-19-2011 07:33 PM  6 years agoPost 77
Solmanbandit

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Precision aerobatics is just a diferent monster altogether.
The aerobatics may look simple, but when you take in account symmetry, centering, speed, and smoothness it becomes very dificult.

Understanding all the ingredients of precision aerobatics MAKES you a BETTER 3D pilot, when you apply the techniques.
then if that the case this must be a great heli then am i right ?
Could you please repost this in English?

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02-23-2011 06:16 PM  6 years agoPost 78
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Precision aerobatics is just a diferent monster altogether.
The aerobatics may look simple, but when you take in account symmetry, centering, speed, and smoothness it becomes very dificult.

Understanding all the ingredients of precision aerobatics MAKES you a BETTER 3D pilot, when you apply the techniques.

then if that the case this must be a great heli then am i right ?

Could you please repost this in English?

Pushing it to the next level and what that is? No idea!
what is the difficulty here bro ?

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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02-23-2011 06:31 PM  6 years agoPost 79
Solmanbandit

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Your first two paragraphs I can follow, but then your last line makes no sense. The last sentence doesn't flow with what was written prior. So basically have no idea where you are going on the last sentence.

Trex 700E / Trex 500 ESP - Ikon/ HD 500 - Ikon 2/ Goblin 500 Ikon 2

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02-23-2011 07:13 PM  6 years agoPost 80
es1co2bar3

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[quote]
you said
Understanding all the ingredients of precision aerobatics MAKES you a BETTER 3D pilot, when you apply the techniques.

my understanding is that this heli is good for precision flying
and a person got aerobatic skill combine the 2 make you a better 3d pilot

i said if that the case this must be a great heli, am i right ?

it either you tell me [no or yes] and then clarify what you mean

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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