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01-16-2011 06:42 AM  7 years agoPost 1
Logotoys600

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Cheap Way ESC and (Coming Soon Built-In Governor V-bar)
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DONT CARE WHAT BRAND IS IT.....JUST WANNA LEARN TO FLY

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01-16-2011 01:57 PM  7 years agoPost 2
Steff Giguere

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Nice, but I will stick with Kontronik till this ESC has at least one year under it's belt.

Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team

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01-16-2011 02:03 PM  7 years agoPost 3
MrMel

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Unless Georges has changed the Firmware, Scorpion is one of the ESC's that will not work well with any external Governor (VBar included) since it has a delay on the throttle.

I'm currently testing the VBar governor with Castle, and will get another ESC hopefully this week or the next (el-cheapo).

I recommend waiting with ordering ESC's until it's tested which one works and which ones do not.

Gone fishing..or hunting..or something
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01-16-2011 06:08 PM  7 years agoPost 4
worldofmaya

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Graz, Styria - Austria

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Hehe... one has to say that the Kontronik motor management is really nice. But I still prefer CC, let's hope the governor will be available soon!
By the way I'm already running my CC in airplane mode
-Klaus

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01-16-2011 06:59 PM  7 years agoPost 5
mmc205

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so are their any preliminary results from the vbar governor testing? i have a 600 and 600se both with a castle ice 80hv. i really enjoy them, but I've heard the gov is not as good as a kontronik. are early tests showing that the vbar governing a castle creations cc be close to the kontronik in its ability to govern headspeed?

if i could upgrade to 5.0 and get the gov on both my vbars for $40 each that would perform as well or as close to well as a jive, i would be happy as a lark!

so, it sounds like you put the cc esc in airplane mode, right? how do.

***Logo 600 vbar***Henseleit TDR vbar***

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01-16-2011 10:05 PM  7 years agoPost 6
krtek2k

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-second thing is, that JIVE is very easy to batteries, i mean efficiency. It set everything about used motor automaticly and the best. Cheap esc may warm in motor and itself.
-third thing is built-in BEC like no other
Sorry my english.

flying without padles is better , but be sure to get electronic ones

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01-16-2011 10:26 PM  7 years agoPost 7
Steff Giguere

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Yes I'm removing the CC out of my Logos and replaceing by Kontronik. I flew CC only for the auto bailouts. But have seen and heard the gov difference in the Kontronik.

Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team

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01-17-2011 01:46 AM  7 years agoPost 8
HilliHeli

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But I still prefer CC

Anybody see the log-file from Timo's stretched TDR yet ?

!Antriebe, die bewegen!
Henseleit-Helicopters.de
Jazz', Jives & vbar's
Futaba FASST / FASSTest

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01-17-2011 01:54 AM  7 years agoPost 9
SGrim80

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Anyone know when kontronik will have auto bailout?

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01-17-2011 05:46 AM  7 years agoPost 10
worldofmaya

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No sign for such a feature... newer Koby doesn't have that too. Let's wait until Nuernberg Toyfare. Perhaps it's possible to use the VBar gov for that.
-Klaus

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01-17-2011 06:44 PM  7 years agoPost 11
Flying Tivo

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Monterrey,NL,Mexico

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The chicken or the egg???

It looks exactlly the same to me!

If life throws at you lemons......Squirt some lemon juice in the eye of your enemy!!!!

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01-17-2011 06:47 PM  7 years agoPost 12
MrMel

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Gotland

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Hyperion OEM's the Scorpion motors and ESC's.

Gone fishing..or hunting..or something
My site: http://heli.dacsa.net - VBar videos and more

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01-17-2011 10:03 PM  7 years agoPost 13
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Plano, Texas

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Where did you get the Scorpion magazine ad?

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01-17-2011 10:31 PM  7 years agoPost 14
NTM

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Lloydminster, Alberta, Canada

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Anyone know when kontronik will have auto bailout?
Just set your normal mode at 3% throttle or so, and use that for autos until you're confident enough.
If you botch the auto, just flick to idle 1 or 2 and the headspeed will ramp right back up.

The v-bar gov is going to make it possible to use cheaper esc's, but I still don't know of any with decent built in bec's. The jive's have me spoiled with their simpler wiring and absolute reliability.

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01-17-2011 10:38 PM  7 years agoPost 15
rexxigpilot

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Florida

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Unless Georges has changed the Firmware, Scorpion is one of the ESC's that will not work well with any external Governor (VBar included) since it has a delay on the throttle.

I'm currently testing the VBar governor with Castle, and will get another ESC hopefully this week or the next (el-cheapo).

I recommend waiting with ordering ESC's until it's tested which one works and which ones do not.
Mr Mel gave you all a big hint here. Pay close attention to it. I will just add that certain ESC's allow the V-Bar to govern far better than anything you've seen to date, including the Kontroniks. Check out the video of the Uli's TDR with 800mm blades to get an idea. That is an earlier beta version of the V-Bar governor. The one coming with V-Bar 5.1 is even better now. Nuff said.

Watch at YouTube

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01-17-2011 10:49 PM  7 years agoPost 16
Lovelight

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Bellevue, WA

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Interesting video. Now if we can get one with a capable pilot! HA!!

Watching a TDR in capable hands is an amazing thing.

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01-17-2011 11:16 PM  7 years agoPost 17
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Plano, Texas

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With all these new additions, I'm a little concerned that we're going to overwhelm the V-bar's computer processing ability.

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01-18-2011 12:25 AM  7 years agoPost 18
MrMel

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Gotland

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Mr Mel gave you all a big hint here. Pay close attention to it. I will just add that certain ESC's allow the V-Bar to govern far better than anything you've seen to date, including the Kontroniks. Check out the video of the Uli's TDR with 800mm blades to get an idea. That is an earlier beta version of the V-Bar governor. The one coming with V-Bar 5.1 is even better now. Nuff said.
edit; misread.
Ulrich has found a way to bypass the delay I was talking about in that post, if that hack will make it to release or not, I'm not sure.

Which ones is the best or not, that I will not comment on until a much later stage, WAY too many parameters in VBar that need to be tested before we know which is the best for a particular setup.

Gone fishing..or hunting..or something
My site: http://heli.dacsa.net - VBar videos and more

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01-18-2011 01:04 AM  7 years agoPost 19
OICU812

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Edson, Alberta, Canada

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With all these new additions, I'm a little concerned that we're going to overwhelm the V-bar's computer processing ability.
Nope not even close Justin, lots of room.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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01-18-2011 03:34 AM  7 years agoPost 20
Logotoys600

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@Flying Tivo

I Agree With U....they look the same 2 me..Why Not Test it...couldn't wait for the 5.1 v-Bar

DONT CARE WHAT BRAND IS IT.....JUST WANNA LEARN TO FLY

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