RunRyder RC
 7  Topic Subscribe
WATCH
 2 pages [ <<    <    ( 1 )     2     NEXT    >> ] 1343 views POST REPLY
HelicopterMain Discussion › nasty tail wag killing my flight with vbar sensor problem any solution. i do all i can
01-16-2011 12:14 AM  7 years agoPost 1
es1co2bar3

rrKey Veteran

winnetka california

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

this thing is driving me nut thinking sensor back to ready heli it was for abut 30 flight and then wag started.

Watch at YouTube

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 12:29 AM  7 years agoPost 2
OICU812

rrMaster

Edson, Alberta, Canada

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Ok so what have you done to trouble shoot?

Show pictures of the sensor where it is mounted, what tape you using?
Have you looked at the vibe analysis, what does it say, can you show a screenshot?

Have you tried different tr servo? TR Servo more likley to do what you show over the sensor, what TR Servo is it? Tell us what servos you have including tr servo and what your settings are.

So it was fine perfectly until just now..?

Have you inspected the tr arms and all and all is perfect there? Any bind things around this?

What distance is the ball on tr servo, was it squared in setup menu?

Just saying the sensor is gone or went bad on tail is very unlikely. There are many other elements, please provide all you have looked at, all you have tried allready in order for anyone to provide next steps or ideas.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 01:14 AM  7 years agoPost 3
es1co2bar3

rrKey Veteran

winnetka california

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

first thing i did was move the link rod on the servo arm from the top closer to the screw on the servo

i have new align ds620 i change it to futaba 9254 same problem
some told me put sensor on one corner of the heli rather than in the middle between the 2 frame

i tried lower the gain in the radio untill got 0 no gain it not the gain at 0 it still wag

some just told me not to use the futaba gyro tape so

i tried the steel plate with gyro tape on both side

there are no vibration on the heli the software whould have point it out

i just got off the phone with my friend he told not use gear in my radio to change it to gyro gear will not work with vbar have to setup in rate mod

it frustrating why after so many flight it it have no been in a crash

thank bro i wll try change gear to gyro in the radio see what next

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 01:22 AM  7 years agoPost 4
Melon

rrApprentice

California

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Try lowering gain in the vbar software on your computer. I dont think it will adjust with radio settings.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 01:28 AM  7 years agoPost 5
LONEWOLF2440

rrElite Veteran

MYRTLE BEACH S.C

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Yup Lower the gain in the vbar menu i was lower than what it recomended

MIKADO LOGO 600 TREX 550

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 01:32 AM  7 years agoPost 6
es1co2bar3

rrKey Veteran

winnetka california

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

the new vbar does not allow you set gain via the software any more
it done in the radio

i will change gear to gyro in the radio and fly tomorrow and see if it that fix the problem

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 01:35 AM  7 years agoPost 7
LONEWOLF2440

rrElite Veteran

MYRTLE BEACH S.C

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Good luck hope ya find out whats causing it

MIKADO LOGO 600 TREX 550

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 01:47 AM  7 years agoPost 8
OICU812

rrMaster

Edson, Alberta, Canada

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

In 5.0 Pro it is in software, I think that is where confusion is, you must be running 5.0 Express is this correct?

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 01:48 AM  7 years agoPost 9
es1co2bar3

rrKey Veteran

winnetka california

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

OICU812
rrMaster
Location: Edson, Alberta, Canada

My Posts This: Topic Forum Ok so what have you done to trouble shoot?

Show pictures of the sensor where it is mounted, what tape you using?
Have you looked at the vibe analysis, what does it say, can you show a screenshot?

Have you tried different tr servo? TR Servo more likley to do what you show over the sensor, what TR Servo is it? Tell us what servos you have including tr servo and what your settings are.

So it was fine perfectly until just now..?

Have you inspected the tr arms and all and all is perfect there? Any bind things around this?

What distance is the ball on tr servo, was it squared in setup menu?

Just saying the sensor is gone or went bad on tail is very unlikely. There are many other elements, please provide all you have looked at, all you have tried allready in order for anyone to provide next steps or ideas.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
i be the last person to ask a question about a electric helicopter only reason i did b-cause this one is bigger than me reason be the sensor is bad and i have no control over that than to change it. i hope someone might have the same issue here. but i will try change gear in the radio to gyro rather than gear and see the out come
thank for your help man. paul

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 02:05 AM  7 years agoPost 10
Steff Giguere

rrProfessor

St-Eustache, Quebec, Canada

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Are you sure you choose the right servo in the software? If yes then you have to move the ball on the tail servo arm. Start by trying it around 14mm, this is what Mikado suggests.

Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 02:07 AM  7 years agoPost 11
Furyous

rrVeteran

Detroit, Michigan

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Check and make sure the pitch slider is moving on the output shaft smoothly. The tolerances on Logos are tight and sometimes oil makes it gooey, causing this behavior.

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 02:10 AM  7 years agoPost 12
es1co2bar3

rrKey Veteran

winnetka california

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

OICU812
rrMaster
Location: Edson, Alberta, Canada

My Posts This: Topic Forum In 5.0 Pro it is in software, I think that is where confusion is, you must be running 5.0 Express is this correct?

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequenc
when i first buy the unit it was 5.0 .11.0 etc
the they give an update 5.0 express 5.0.12.111 etc

i upgrade to 5.0 express and then the problem started so last week i see they have the 5.0 pro for $40 so i buy the up grade and the wag got worst since then seem like a conflict in the firmware to me.man

it make me ask y they came out with the pro update so fast i notice a change in the program too.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 02:13 AM  7 years agoPost 13
es1co2bar3

rrKey Veteran

winnetka california

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Furyous
Senior Heliman
Location: Detroit, Michigan

My Posts This: Topic Forum Check and make sure the pitch slider is moving on the output shaft smoothly. The tolerances on Logos are tight and sometimes oil makes it gooey, causing this behavior.

Team Xero G, Team Beam, Team Flightpower, Team G-Force
i use a special machine oil to take care of this issue thank bro

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 02:22 AM  7 years agoPost 14
es1co2bar3

rrKey Veteran

winnetka california

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

LONEWOLF2440
Elite Veteran
Location: MYRTLE BEACH S.C

My Posts This: Topic Forum Good luck hope ya find out whats causing it

TREX 700 ,LOGO 600 VBAR,TREX 500 MINI VBAR
thank lone good to see you try to help me out bro i figure out how tareq
alssadi get is big heli to maneuver like a 450 so close to him. i will try the setup and the share the secret bro thumb up man

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 04:50 AM  7 years agoPost 15
sandtrx

rrApprentice

Oregon

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

head over to helifreak, in the Vbar forum ask Mr Mel, include pics of the sensor mounting and upload a copy of your vbar file

Vibe 50 (V Bar) Protos 500 (Vbar) Trex 700 (Vbar)

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 12:27 PM  7 years agoPost 16
MrMel

rrProfessor

Gotland

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I need to see the VBar file and pictures like Sandtrx saying,

Also; Is the boom grounded for Static hits, are you using Spektrum?
When you updated to .12 some things changed with RX setting (Hires is available), did you change anything there? If so did you rebind?

Gone fishing..or hunting..or something
My site: http://heli.dacsa.net - VBar videos and more

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 02:01 PM  7 years agoPost 17
Jeff polisena

rrElite Veteran

westpalmbeachflorida usa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

What servos ?if align ,one could be bad I had one work but would surge power and vbar would react this way. Power supply ? bec or esc ?? wiggle plugs on sensor or servo wires on the bench also move sticks radically on bench . could be bad sensor but when I had bad sensor it usually is hyper sensitive ,this looks like a power issue or connection .

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 02:41 PM  7 years agoPost 18
holzback

rrKey Veteran

noblesville IN United States

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

larger tail blades might help as well

you aint crashin you aint learnin

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 03:08 PM  7 years agoPost 19
Jeff polisena

rrElite Veteran

westpalmbeachflorida usa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

This is an electronic kick not mechanical ,check the easy stuff before doing process of elimination of electronics

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
01-16-2011 05:59 PM  7 years agoPost 20
es1co2bar3

rrKey Veteran

winnetka california

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Got it to work a little better method

i am using a dx7 in the radio the gyro have to be set to gyro and not gear the vbar will not recon the gain correctly if it is set to gear

now i can hover the heli now with no out of control wag now i see some last min glitch mabey low bat warning. never heard of satic wag

so i might switch back to my 10c that is not prown to satic like the dx7

only reason i stick to dx7 b-cause i enjoy using the satellite less wiring too

the flight this morning was good with a last min tos tos but might be low battery

thank you all for your help
paul

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 2 pages [ <<    <    ( 1 )     2     NEXT    >> ] 1343 views POST REPLY
HelicopterMain Discussion › nasty tail wag killing my flight with vbar sensor problem any solution. i do all i can
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 7  Topic Subscribe

Tuesday, January 23 - 7:49 pm - Copyright © 2000-2017 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online