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01-15-2011 01:13 AM  7 years agoPost 1
LivingDead

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I see these going for pretty low prices (airframe). Worth getting? I've heard that the parts are cheaper now plus there are part lots for sale frequently for good prices.

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01-15-2011 04:07 AM  7 years agoPost 2
blingboy

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they have come down in price and they have the bugs worked out of them i have 2 n9's and have had no trouble with them what so ever they dont wear out ... with so many new 90's out on the market people want the latest released heli's out , thats why you see them for sale often .... get one you will love it ....

blingboy

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01-15-2011 04:21 AM  7 years agoPost 3
ch-47c

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I have one and love it. Built like a tank. Flys like a hummingbird or eagle depending how you set it up.

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01-15-2011 04:26 AM  7 years agoPost 4
Tyler

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N(ever)9

"Gave" both of mine away to fund a single T700. No regrets. 2 for one pricing really hurt, but overall the better move.

I find your screen name very applicable to this discussion: "Livingdead". This is exactly how I would describe any remaining N9's.

I got tired of throwing money at the N9 black holes. They never came close to the T700 in so many ways. The T700 can be had at a great value and parts are everywhere and much more affordable.

I, and many others, went through N9 crown gears like oreo cookies in a kindergarten class. I have yet to strip a gear on my T700 in two seasons. Tail gears were the same nightmare.

T700:
Better autos
smoother
better collective pop
more rigid design
less vibrations
easier build
fuel, fly, repeat
prepainted canopies everywhere
lighter
less bogging
better big air tracking
more agile by a mile
better geometry
no upgrades needed

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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01-15-2011 04:54 AM  7 years agoPost 5
synergy5

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i would have to disagree with have u there tyler i have had a n9 for the past year the good thing about the n9 is your putting the hole heli together not just slapping it together like the 700 i had 2 700s before this and sold both to get a n9 yes i lost money but never change back now as for crown gears wearing out i have not had that problem yet. the good thing about people selling them cheap means more parts cheaper for us.

thunder tiger g4 nitro,thunder tiger g4 e720

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01-15-2011 05:01 AM  7 years agoPost 6
Tyler

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synergy5

I welcome friendly difference of opinion. However, I have simply stated my experience. Yours is obviously different. All other Synergy owners I know personally within my ring of flying friends have followed my lead and are very happy to have done so.

reduced N9 parts > retail T700 parts

used N9 marketed parts are not as available as retail supplied T700 parts, either. Get what you want, when you want. No estate buy outs needed.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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01-15-2011 09:37 AM  7 years agoPost 7
mylee

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With the correct set-up, crown gears aren't an issue.
You may prefer your T700's to the N9 but I like the exclusivity of the N9. There are 3 or 4 N9's in our club, 20+ T700's

Yes the T700 is good value, but there have been a number of failures at our club. Tail booms and gears stripping have been regular problems and these aren't poorly built machines. These are flown hard by pilots at 3d Masters level.

The only advantage I see the T700 has over an N9 is parts cost, but then you need to replace cheap parts more often.

All that said, if we all were the same, what a boring World it would be.......

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01-15-2011 01:30 PM  7 years agoPost 8
Tyler

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Well ,living dead, now you have input from both sides of the fence and you are no further ahead than you were when you posed your question. I wish you well in your research and decision. Happy flying.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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01-16-2011 02:27 AM  7 years agoPost 9
oysifly

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I fly both. Mostly the 700 for the cheaper parts, "just in case" kinda thing.

If you want low on the deck 3D, go with the 700....

If you want big sky and fast flight, go with the synergy....

The Synergy is by far the better heli as far as flight performance and stability.....The 700 is only good to bang around on pretty hard and replace worn out parts more often, it is what it is.

I love to fly both the 700 and my Synergy. Won't get rid of either one!! I also added the N5 to the family...

Quick...here comes my wife....hide that new Heli !!!!

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02-03-2011 07:25 AM  6 years agoPost 10
MR SLOWFLOW

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if anyone wants a nice t700 or n9 i have both .we can talk price.

aka MR AIRBRUSH

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02-04-2011 09:12 PM  6 years agoPost 11
CANENR

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T700 is pure trash. It does not even comes close to the N9. Set it up properly and you won't have a problem. Learn it and then fly it.

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02-04-2011 09:36 PM  6 years agoPost 12
MMA0419

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^^^+10 on that!! haha

BOOM! Left hook... that just changed the fight..

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02-04-2011 10:07 PM  6 years agoPost 13
Tyler

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AGAIN, this is MY experience, but others realized the same later on.

T700 is pure trash. It does not even comes close to the N9. Set it up properly and you won't have a problem. Learn it and then fly it.
That is the whole point. The N9 could not be set up right by anybody I knew. I mean nobody, nobody, nobody. Why do you think all the hyper upgrades became a requirement? Hey, what is the Synergy crew flying now? What is Todd Bennett the designer flying? What about all the other renowned Synergy N9 experts? There are reasons they moved on, too.

I have put five times the amount of fuel through my single stock T700 than I could ever hope to get through my fully upgraded N9's. At that time I had $1700 invested into each machine. My stock T700 outperformed and outlasted both N9's. The N9 had/has many weaknesses: torque tube problems, fuel foaming, crown gears, tail gears, main gears, tank leaks, clutch shaft problems, clutch dial indicating problems. Anyone that denies such realities cannot deny MY experiences with all of these problems. Don't come back and tell me it was all builder's error, either. It was not.

I am the same guy that just bolted up his new T700 and it has flown smoothly, precisely, and taken a beating all the while. No upgrades needed aside from the quick uk ball links. Same builder, same pilot, different results with different airframes.

The N9 was a pride trip. It still is. Holding on the dead dream of the N9 being a true flagship and viable helicopter is like rejecting blue ray dvd's for beta tapes. Time to move on.

Of course some people still enjoy their beta tape collections and rave about the bargains they find at garage sales. Woohoo! We got 200 beta tapes for $2.00 at a flea market!!

I suppose there are a few people that would prefer to stick with a failing machine and either accept the design flaws and just ignore them, or they may choose to work around the flaws until they wittle away at possible cures until they get resolved one flaw at a time. To those people I take off my hat. My flying time is too minimal and precious.

One last point:

Every ecosystem and economy needs a clean up crew. You know, carp on the bottom of the scummy pond, day old bread shops, used car lots/junkyards. There are those consumers that thrive there. In fact those consumers are needed. I just don't believe the T700 is found in that market while the N9 definately is.

My personal opinions, of course.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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02-04-2011 10:45 PM  6 years agoPost 14
CANENR

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The N9 is not for beginners, its for the individuals that know how to build and expertly setup a high performance heli. As for the original Synergy crew? They just moved on(its all about money).
I would fly a T700 if you paid me. But I'm not a sponsored pilot.
That's my personal opinion, of course.

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02-04-2011 10:55 PM  6 years agoPost 15
mylee

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Every ecosystem and economy needs a clean up crew. You know, carp on the bottom of the scummy pond, day old bread shops, used car lots/junkyards. There are those consumers that thrive there. In fact those consumers are needed. I just don't believe the T700 is found in that market while the N9 definately is.
Your right, but the Twreck's are the common 'found everywhere' type of boring fish. Where as your N9, although a little dated, is for the more experienced fisherman.

Just my opinion, of course

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02-04-2011 11:22 PM  6 years agoPost 16
MMA0419

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I've never had any issues with my N9's or my E9... unless I dumb thumb them.

The N9/E9 is a mans helicopter. It requires you to know the machine inside and out with your eyes closed. Set up correctly, they're almost "unbreakable" in flight. That being said I've also never had issues setting them up...

Just MY opinion of course

BOOM! Left hook... that just changed the fight..

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02-05-2011 12:10 AM  6 years agoPost 17
Tyler

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Albert Einstein is on my side...

The value of a man should be seen in what he gives and not in what he is able to receive.
Albert Einstein
Apparently, I am more of a man because I GAVE away two synergy N9's with all the upgrade trimmings for less than the cost of a single T700 kit.

Guess I am a real man after all.

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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02-05-2011 12:11 AM  6 years agoPost 18
thenewguy

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Corvallis, Oregon Where there is liquid sunshine!

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Tyler,

Just a simple question. Please don't take this as me being mean to you, negative, or anything like that. You have stated your dislike for the N9 on several occasion here in the Synergy forum. Why do you keep coming back here and posting? Not that you don't have the right to.

I'm trying to be natural here. It's evident you no longer fly the N9 and have moved on to other brands. That is good, people should do exactly what is good for them.

I think everyone should enjoy what they are flying and have a great time doing it.

Thanks,
Chris

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02-05-2011 12:13 AM  6 years agoPost 19
MMA0419

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^^^+1 Chris you read my mind!!

BOOM! Left hook... that just changed the fight..

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02-05-2011 12:14 AM  6 years agoPost 20
oysifly

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I am the same guy that just bolted up his new T700 and it has flown smoothly, precisely, and taken a beating all the while. No upgrades needed aside from the quick uk ball links. Same builder, same pilot, different results with different airframes.
That is how the 700 is made- You don't need to know how to build it to fly it!

Send me your N9 and I'll have it flying right.

Quick...here comes my wife....hide that new Heli !!!!

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